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Is that amount of time common to walk in places in the world where cars don't dictate the layout of the community?

Im going to be making this walk tomorrow, no worries, I'm just curious if its normal in other places. Maps says its 1hour15minues for 2.3miles or 3.7Km.

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[-] Lembot_0004@discuss.online 77 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

3.7Km

It is more like 40-50 minutes if you're in the town with actual roads, not just a corn field.

would you walk an hour and 15 minutes to go to say, the library?

Walking more than an hour just to get to one place? No, unless walking is a sub-goal. You know, the weather is nice, no tasks for today...

[-] Eq0@literature.cafe 61 points 1 week ago

Would I? Depends on the day, the weather, the mood.

Would I regularly? No, I would either take public transport or the bike.

Would I need to? Also no, I live in a mid-sized city with many libraries and the closest one is 20 minutes walk away, the main one is some half an hour walk away in another direction. Access to municipal facilities was a key element in my decision of where to live.

I think that, because cars didn’t dictate the layout, things ended up being naturally closer by, such that long walks would be fairly unusual within the city.

[-] other_cat@lemmy.zip 4 points 1 week ago

Heck I live in a moderately sized town and the library is a 10-15 minute walk away.

[-] slazer2au@lemmy.world 41 points 1 week ago

Walk? No. I would cycle there. Get some bike bags so you can bring some books back.

[-] Madzielle@lemmy.dbzer0.com 22 points 1 week ago

Yes that makes sense. Good to know it's not a common walking length for everyday. I thought I was being lazy not wanting to make the trip on foot. I'll be two and a half hours walking for a 45 minute meeting ..

I wish cars didn't rule everything here

[-] Witchfire@lemmy.world 28 points 1 week ago

That's biking distance boss

As a long time (former) NYer, my maximum walk length is about 20m. Anything further than that and I'm taking public transit. The exception is when it's a nice day out and I want to walk, in which case it's just until I get tired

[-] edb_fyr@lemmy.world 16 points 1 week ago

I am from Denmark where the biking infrastructure is also pretty good, so I will almost always take the bike if I'm going somewhere that is further than 1 km away (~.6 miles).

But that is just if I'm going somewhere -- taking a 4 km walk just for the sake of the walk and getting some fresh air (especially when the weather is nice) is quite normal here.

[-] Kennystillalive@feddit.org 15 points 1 week ago

If it's free time and I don't have any appointments yes. If I have to be there regularly and as appointmemt, I would use public transport on the way there and walk the way back.

[-] Madzielle@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 1 week ago

These answers are great. I thought so. Folks mentioned bikes. I didn't think about the bike, there isn't biking infrastructure in place, and mines been broke in the shed for years. But yeah that would probably be the best way in my situation, if I didn't have to cross like 5 death traps to use it. The public transport comments make me laugh. I wish.

[-] ILikeTraaaains@lemmy.world 12 points 1 week ago

A walkable environment also means good public transport.

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[-] citizensongbird@lemmy.world 10 points 1 week ago

I'd walk that for pleasure, but not for work. Time for you to get a bike.

[-] chaosCruiser@futurology.today 9 points 1 week ago

That's too much for walking. I would take a bike in that case.

Here's what I consider common:

  1. Walk 10 minutes to the train station
  2. Get to the city center while scrolling Lemmy on your phone.
  3. Walk in the center to visit some fancy stores. Maybe like 15-20 minutes in one direction.
  4. Buy some specialty coffee, fancy kitchen knives, Bialetti rubber rings or whatever.
  5. Walk back to the station: 15-20 minutes.
  6. Battery is nearly dead, and I forgot to bring a charger with me. I guess I'll just stare out the window.
  7. Walk back home: 10 min.

In total, that's going to be like an hour, but it's divided into multiple parts. Walking that much in just one direction is something I would prefer to avoid. If the library is a 60 min walk away, that's the same as like 12 bus stops or 15 minutes while sitting in a bus. BTW that 15 minutes includes walking at both ends of the journey. I would definitely choose public transport over walking in that case.

If the destination is just 15 minutes walk away from your house, that's perfectly normal, and not a problem in any way. If it's like 20 minutes away, I would begin to consider using a bike or maybe even a bus.

[-] BussyCat@lemmy.world 4 points 1 week ago

I’m in pretty much the same boat as you

0-20 minutes is usually walking or up to about 1mi/1.6km After that I usually consider biking up to around 5mi/8km If biking isn’t good due to terrain/parking/activity or any further I would generally rather take some form of public transit

Alas I live in the U.S. in a non pedestrian friendly area now and the majority of the time the only real option is driving

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[-] ILoveUnions@lemmy.world 9 points 1 week ago

I'd bike it. 2.3 miles should only be a 45 minute walk for a normal person unless there's bad stop lights (assume ~20 minute miles). On a bike it's less than 15

[-] Ziggurat@jlai.lu 9 points 1 week ago

In general no

However, a sunny Sunday, walking 1h to do something may be part of the fun.

For distance above roughly a km, I use bicycle or even bus/train

[-] Michal@programming.dev 9 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Walkable means all you need is in reasonable walking distance.

I wouldn't consider my neighbourhood to be particularly walkable as it's a suburb (in Europe) but my library is about 15 mins walk away.

Sometimes the amenity you need isn't in that walkable range, but cycling is a great alternative.

[-] remon@ani.social 8 points 1 week ago

I wouldn't walk any distance for a library.

But even it was a place I actually wanted to go, 10 minutes walking distance is about the maximum. For anything more there has to be a tram (or at least a bus).

[-] Vanth@reddthat.com 6 points 1 week ago

2.3 miles wouldn't take me an hour and 15 min. More like 45 min one way, walking 3.5 - 4 mph.

I would not walk that regularly for the library. I would bike or more likely drive due to time, weather, and some roads between my home and the library not really being suitable to walk/bike safely the whole way. My immediate neighborhood is bike/walk friendly, but as I go out 1 - 2 miles and further, they are very much car roads not built with cyclists and pedestrians in mind.

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[-] AbouBenAdhem@lemmy.world 6 points 1 week ago

In my city, there are enough libraries that few if any residents are that far from one (I’m a block away from one myself).

In theory, I’d walk that far if the library had a rare book or something else unique I wanted to see; but if I just wanted a place to read I’d go to a café, and if I wanted a generally-available book I’d go to a bookstore. (I figure most books worth walking that far for are worth owning.)

If the library is the all day activity then sure! Great start and end to it.

[-] Fleur_@aussie.zone 5 points 1 week ago
[-] captainlezbian@lemmy.world 5 points 1 week ago

Probably not. And no, I've done maybe an hour, but more likely 45 minutes to a library in a car centric city, and now somewhere with public transit I don't think you're ever more than a half hour walk from one

This is part of why I'm so vocal about increasing walkability. There's a cascading effect with increasing walkability as more and more is easily walkable less people need cars and there's more demand for walkability and mass transit solutions.

The fact that I've lived in cities (including major ones) where the public transit is a bus that comes every hour and I've lived where it's faster to take the train to go to a lot of places. If transit sucks, only the poor take it. In many places the bus is treated as welfare not mass transit. It can't improve until the area is willing to invest in distant returns. Not investing however will eventually hit growing urban areas with worse and worse conditions and traffic

[-] BlameTheAntifa@lemmy.world 5 points 1 week ago

If that’s the round trip, yes. I do that daily. But one way? No.

[-] HubertManne@piefed.social 5 points 1 week ago

Yes. I would but no it would not take that long. I walked to and from work 3 miles for awhile and it was about 45 mins. A neat thing with walking is that the time is very consistant. If I walked pretty much as fast as I could and was lucky on street lights and such I could almost make it in 35 minutes but if I took my sweet ass time it was hard to get to an hour. If I was taking one hour and 15minutes I should be able to get to a library that was 5 miles away. I have regularly walked to my current library in recent times and its about a mile and a half away but I have not really kept track of how long it takes me.

[-] thisisdee@lemmy.world 5 points 1 week ago

No, but walkable places would probably have public transport access as well? If so I'd take the bus. I think I generally consider 15-20 minutes to be "walkable" if I need to go often (train/metro stations, grocery stores). For the occasional trips I'd consider 1 hour walk one way. Anything longer I would probably skip or find alternative ways to get there (including taxis/ride shares)

[-] Catoblepas@piefed.blahaj.zone 5 points 1 week ago

I don’t do walks longer than 20 minutes unless it’s for pleasure, thankfully the bus can get me most places I want to go beyond that. The terrain also makes a difference, I’d be less inclined to do 20 minutes uphill or across multiple freeways or something.

[-] froggycar360@slrpnk.net 5 points 1 week ago

If it’s more than a 20 minute walk I’m biking, if it’s more than a 30 minute bike ride I’m driving, if it’s more than a 40 minute drive I’m not going.

[-] kSPvhmTOlwvMd7Y7E@lemmy.world 4 points 1 week ago

Nah that's too much. Most I did regularly was going to a big mall, 2km away, about 25min walk

[-] neidu3@sh.itjust.works 4 points 1 week ago

Last time I lived in a city, 15m is where I'd take the bus instead.

[-] Otherbarry@lemmy.frozeninferno.xyz 4 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Maybe? Does seem a bit much. I already walk about 40 mins to get to work and that's at the higher end of what most people would walk.

But I would maybe do it if there were other things near that library that I need to go to. Have multiple destinations in mind for a longer walk like that.

EDIT: The library by me is about a 5 minute walk for what it's worth. Same for groceries & other stuff.

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[-] artiman@piefed.social 4 points 1 week ago

If it's a nice library sure

[-] Hossenfeffer@feddit.uk 4 points 1 week ago

Grew up in a small town, the library was about 15 minutes walk. Used to go there three times a week. I miss those days.

[-] Goldholz 4 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

What stops to put a tram there? Or bike there? Thats then 10-20 minutes from my experience

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[-] insaneinthemembrane@lemmy.world 4 points 1 week ago

No, that's way too far just for the library. I'd do that for pleasure but right now I'm time poor and can't afford that for a general task.

[-] kepix@lemmy.world 4 points 1 week ago

no, but i would bike 10 minutes

[-] bluGill@fedia.io 4 points 1 week ago

It has been observed through history humans have been willing to spend up to half an hour each way on their daily commute. It doesn't matter if they are walking, biking, driving, flying, or something else, half an hour is the typical budget. Some people do go much longer (transit often allows for little longer if it is otherwise good enough that you can do something else while riding) , but that half an hour rule tends to stand across all cultures. Anyone who has farther to go will move.

That is daily commutes though. People often lived in a village near their field, but every few weeks would make the much longer trip to the town (city?) where there is a bigger market day. You don't do this every day, but for a once or twice a a month trip it can be worth it.

So back to your question is this a regular daily trip to the library - half an hour is the most you get, so you need to have multiple locations in all but the smallest towns. If this is however the big central library with a special collection of some sort people will make a 2 hour walk every few weeks if there is something special you cannot do at the local library.

Realistically I'd aim for a small library within 15 minutes for everyone because shorter distances makes it more likely people will go. You should try to have basic market places in the same location: basic groceries, a couple cafes, a few other shops, doctor and dentist offices.... That is the basics everyone wants close to home in one "central location" so it becomes habit to walk there a few times a week after work. People might go elsewhere to "costco" for their main shopping, but when you just need a cup of sugar this is close enough to send a kid alone while you finishing supper.

[-] Octavio@lemmy.world 4 points 1 week ago

I wouldn't hesitate to walk that far for a library, but realistically I'd take my cruiser bike for that distance. I've heard people tend to cite around 15-20 minutes as the maximum walk length that is considered "walkable," but I've often chosen walking longer distances than that even when other options were available. For dense urban areas, I'd rather walk that take a bus unless it's really far. Sometimes I get passed up by the same bus 5 or 6 times along the way. I agree with others who have said that time estimate sounds way long.

[-] AA5B@lemmy.world 4 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Everyone has their own definition of “walkable”. For me that’s not, plus it’s getting to the point where the books i’d likely get would be annoying to carry. But also do you mean literally walkable or “don’t need a car”. The latter includes transit and micromobility

I walk to my library but it’s less than ten minutes. Especially since they put up parking meters, walking ten minutes is more convenient than finding change or feeding a profiteering app company.

Unfortunately the best part of my towns downtown is a mile away so less convenient. Most of the time I’ve lived here I’ve decided to drive the mile but since pandemic I’ve been far more likely to walk. I recently went to a diner where a newly opened trail made it a nice walk despite it being over a mile.

And the definition of walkable changes over time as well. As a young adult I lived in Boston and considered essentially everything walkable. While I was also a big user of transit, they tended to be too slow and crowded when you can walk instead. Most of my driving was to move my car for street cleaning or snow removal

[-] theywilleatthestars@lemmy.world 4 points 1 week ago

No, and my closest library is closer to 15 minutes away.

[-] Nibodhika@lemmy.world 4 points 1 week ago

I can, and have in the past, it's not that big of a deal, but it's not something I do regularly. Here's the thing, 4km takes about 1h walking, 30min by bus/tram, 20min by car (then another 10min finding a place to park), or 15min by bike. This is why bikes are so ubiquitous in European cities, you can get to places usually much faster than by public transport, and sometimes even faster than cars since they have to do weird paths and skip entire neighborhoods.

I normally would take public transport for such distances, mostly because I don't own a bike and sweat more than I'm comfortable with when I ride one, and don't mind the extra 15min of listening to music.

[-] CarbonIceDragon@pawb.social 3 points 1 week ago

I live in the US and even my walk to the library isn't that bad. Ive done walks that long or a bit longer as a novelty or to get exercise, but in general no, about half an hour is about as long as I "normally" like to go without looking into a bus or something.

[-] florencia 3 points 1 week ago

It's gonna be real annoying for future me with arthritis.

[-] Kuma@lemmy.world 3 points 1 week ago

I walk 1,5 km in 10-15 minutes (depends on if I am alone or not), so yes I would walk that. But I like walking, I can suggest walking as a way to hang out haha

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[-] Acamon@lemmy.world 3 points 1 week ago

Very much depends on my motivation, my schedule and the weather. Walking much more than half an hour feels like a fair distance, and if it's unpleasant weather then I'd be tempted to take a bus or train partway.

But if it's nice weather and I've got plenty of time, walking an hour to go to a museum or whatever would seem perfectly normal.

[-] Bruncvik@lemmy.world 3 points 1 week ago

Today, my longest walk was 6.8 km. Took about 2 hours, but I had frequent stops as I was collecting kids from their schools and taking them to their respective sports clubs. When I have to go to the office, I run commute, 8 km each way. My watch says that my average step count for the past 7 days is 20,109 per day. I may be an extreme case, but walking 3.7 km to the library would be so routine I wouldn't even think of taking a bus.

[-] OhNoMoreLemmy@lemmy.ml 3 points 1 week ago

I live in a walkable European city.

My nearest library is 5 minutes away, there's a bigger library maybe 20 minutes away, and for anything further I'd take public transport.

[-] daniskarma@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Not really.

I may do a walk like that if I incorporate the walk as a leisure. But if I have to just be in a place I won't be walking more than 30-40 minutes to get to it if there's a fastest more convenient way.

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