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What's your test for people? (piefed.cdn.blahaj.zone)
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[-] LoafedBurrito@lemmy.dbzer0.com 9 points 6 days ago

What do you do with your shopping cart when you are done? Do you just leave it to fend for itself in the sea of the parking lot? Or do you do the right thing and bring it back inside or to the cart corral.

The REAL REAL sign though? When someone brings a cart from the parking lot into the store to shop with, ultra move.

[-] Entertainmeonly 4 points 6 days ago

I like to stay in the chaotic neutral category. I get my cart from the parking lot, but return it exactly where i found it. Even if it was in the middle of the lot. 😝

[-] Applejuicy@feddit.nl 2 points 6 days ago

This has to be in the top 5 most US things.

[-] Cataphract@lemmy.ml 8 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago)

Just wanted to put in a counter for what a lot of people are saying in here, if you're looking for a "perfect-clone friend" right out the gate then prepare to be lonely as your tests fail... not because they're horrible people, but because they're a different person with different experiences.

The person litters (like @tiramichu@sh.itjust.works suggested)? Probably see's their entire family litter constantly and never gets comments or maybe even once got reprimanded for saying not to litter to an elder. Just ask them not to when they're in your vehicle, take into account their reaction and maybe have a conversation about it? (personal experience, just let me friend know it was lame and he stopped doing it. But now his vehicle is a roaming trashcan so I guess take what you can get)

You can be friends with people who are different or were raised differently than you, it's actually super beneficial! Now if it's a constant argument or it's turned into a negative experience every time and communication isn't working... it might be useful to move on for everyone's sake at that point.

[-] usernamefactory@lemmy.ca 8 points 6 days ago

You'd fail my test if I learn you have tests for people.

Maybe it's just a matter of phrasing, but the idea that I could be kind to our server all night, tip well, generally hit it out of the park, but be disproportionately judged for failing to do this one small thing because it's your personal test? Sets my social anxiety off enough that if I knew that were on your mind I'd probably just say we're not compatible.

Obviously, keep an eye out for shitty people, and don't put up with bad behaviour, but also judge people as people, wholistically.

[-] tiramichu@sh.itjust.works 5 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago)

It says the word 'test' in the post title, but if it helps I don't think you need to take it so literally.

This isn't necessarily "setting up" specific situations for people, but more like how people respond in normal everyday situations which you might consider to be either red flag or green flag behaviour.

For me, an example is littering. I'm not so sociopathic that I'd create some trash just to test someone, but if trash happens and they throw it on the ground, it's a bad personality indicator.

[-] usernamefactory@lemmy.ca 2 points 6 days ago

Yeah, what you're saying makes sense. I like "bad personality indicator" as an alternative, since it conveys to me it's one of many indicators you might process, maybe not even consciously. I've just had rather negative experiences being "tested" and hearing that world applied to any kind of casual social interaction gets my hackles all the way up.

[-] kittenzrulz123 3 points 6 days ago

My test is the classic shopping cart test, for those who don't know its a test based on if someone returns a shopping cart. Its a societal benefit that is not aknowlaged and requires minimal effort. You wont be punished if you dont return it yet you're being an asshole.

[-] DJDarren@sopuli.xyz 4 points 6 days ago

My ex wife always refused to put her shit in the bin at McD's on the basis that someone was paid to do it.

No. Someone was paid to wipe the table down, not pick up your shit.

[-] AmanitaCaesarea@slrpnk.net 6 points 6 days ago

No they are paid to keep it all clean, including throwing it way :p

Still ill mannered tho

[-] DJDarren@sopuli.xyz 2 points 6 days ago

If that's the case, then why make the bins available for the public to use?

[-] AmanitaCaesarea@slrpnk.net 4 points 6 days ago

For good mannered people xD

[-] MutilationWave@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 6 days ago

Nice job getting away from that.

[-] DJDarren@sopuli.xyz 4 points 6 days ago

That was the sole reason given for the divorce.

[-] HollowNaught@lemmy.world 3 points 6 days ago

Haha, no

Sincerely, a waiter

[-] Alaknar@sopuli.xyz 1 points 5 days ago
[-] HollowNaught@lemmy.world 1 points 5 days ago

As a waiter, on any given day you want to spend the minimum amount of time doing the "required" things, so you can spend more time on things that dont mediately require your attention. That is to say, clearing a table faster lets you give more wine tastings, or spend more time having a chat with a table when the time comes for it

This, of course, means that a minimum amount of trips to the kitchen with dirty plates is preferred. No matter how much of the "stacking" phase is removed, it will never make up for another trip it may cause

You might see what I'm getting at, but to put it bluntly, I have never had a table stack their plates in a way that actually helps - it's always caused a second or third trip

What's more annoying is that the person in the picture has clearly never had the opportunity to ask a waiter (off shift) about what they think (as they would very roughly disagree with them), yet asserts that people who don't agree with them are in the wrong

[-] Alaknar@sopuli.xyz 1 points 5 days ago

OK, that makes sense. What's the preferred stacking method, then?

When I stack plates at home I make sure to have all the food leftovers and the cutlery on the top plate and - if different types of plates are on the table - stack them by type, so that I create a stable and sturdy "tower".

[-] HollowNaught@lemmy.world 2 points 5 days ago

The correct way to stack plates for them is to not stack them at all. Every waiter has their own system, and there's no way to tell what it is. The most respectable thing to do is to tuck yourself in and make it easy for the waiter to reach your plates. Even handing plates to them can result in them being forced to stack plates in an inefficient manner

[-] danhab99@programming.dev 3 points 6 days ago

The definition of bigotry is someone who's behavior is a function of what they know about you. If people change their behavior to treat me better or worse because they learn (for example) that I'm gay then I don't want them at all.

[-] tooclose104@lemmy.ca 4 points 6 days ago

No it's not.

From the Oxford dictionary:

obstinate or unreasonable attachment to a belief, opinion, or faction, in particular prejudice against a person or people on the basis of their membership of a particular group.

From the Collins dictionary:

Bigotry is the possession or expression of strong, unreasonable prejudices or opinions.

From vocabulary.com:

A bigot is someone who doesn't tolerate people of different backgrounds or opinions. Someone who tells a racist joke might be labeled a bigot. A bigot can also be someone who refuses to accept other ideas, as in politics.

[-] AnanasMarko@lemmy.world 2 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago)

Ok... so someone finds out you're gay. Figure to themselves you're probably having it rough, with all the LGBTQ+ hate thats going around, and are making sure to treat you nicer because of it, or maybe let some things slide that would irk them otherwise -> bigots.

[-] faythofdragons@slrpnk.net 3 points 6 days ago

Not the guy you're responding to, but...

maybe let some things slide that would irk them otherwise

As a non-straight person, I don't want yesmen either. If I'm being an idiot, I want my friends to tell me nicely that I'm doing the stupid, I don't want them to ignore it because "oh she's gay, I don't want to hurt her feelings".

[-] danhab99@programming.dev 2 points 6 days ago

and are making sure to treat you nicer because of it

That's a bad thing

If I could trust that this is the reason behind a person's behavior then we wouldn't be having this conversation. But there are so many potentially malicious reasons to be extra sugary sweet to someone different. Plus it's infantalizing to be "treated nicer" like I'm not a kid. I don't want everyone to change their tone I just want to participate and have fun. If political issues were bothering me then I'd go to a political group that centers my lgbt-ness, that's my choice

[-] BanMe@lemmy.world 2 points 6 days ago

It's fun to have a friend who's been a waiter for 30 years, he just openly narrates the service and how good/bad they're doing (usually "look at how hard they have to scramble because you assholes came in late")

[-] Luvs2Spuj@lemmy.world 2 points 6 days ago

Pre bussing be bussin

[-] socsa@piefed.social 1 points 6 days ago

But do you even bring your glass back to the bar before you leave?

[-] Godort@lemmy.ca 60 points 1 week ago

If you leave your cart in a parking space, you're sub-human

You're passible if you take it to the corral

But a truly good human will stack the carts into proper rows if the carts are loose in the corral

[-] salacious_coaster@infosec.pub 32 points 1 week ago

I firmly believe in the validity of the Shopping Cart Test. On a related and depressing note, my little city is overrun with errant shopping carts.

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[-] Couldbealeotard@lemmy.world 39 points 1 week ago

This comment section is a nice mix of "I'm a waiter, please don't do this, you're making my job harder" and "I always do this to make the waiters' lives easier"

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[-] Don_alForno@feddit.org 32 points 1 week ago

Waiters have told me to please not stack the dishes because it messes with their carrying technique.

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[-] 2Geechi@lemmy.zip 32 points 1 week ago

My dad gets legitimately angry when I do this. Boomers are a different breed

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[-] MostRegularPeople@lemmy.world 25 points 1 week ago

When I was a server I hated when people stacked their own plates. First off, I found it performative. Secondly it messed with my system. Thirdly it usually produced a 20lb pile of dishes covered in queso, half eaten burritos, and guacamole that was impossible to carry.

[-] mojofrododojo@lemmy.world 5 points 6 days ago

bussed tables for years; what are you doing clearing tables as a server?

I liked it when people stacked their shit up, it shaves a few seconds off me doing it before I dumped it in a tub.

As far as food issues - well yeah if they're some kids acting like cretins pouring shit all over that's a problem but what's that got fuck all to do with the stack?

I find your hate performative to be honest.

[-] volvoxvsmarla@sopuli.xyz 7 points 6 days ago

Yeah man. I don't stack anything, not because I don't want to help, but I don't want to mess with your system. Waiting isn't as easy as it seems and I absolutely have no idea how to do it, so I don't want to interfere. I prefer to sit awkwardly and pretend that me leaning back as much as I can to make more space is equally helpful.

[-] marzhall@lemmy.world 6 points 6 days ago

Huh, me mum was a waitress at one point and taught me to stack for politeness, I didn't realize it was a preference thing. Now I'm not sure what to do.

I'll still keep ordering the queso though, that shit's delicious.

[-] pupbiru@aussie.zone 6 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago)

offer them the plates so they don’t have to reach or move around the table and help them stack them when they’re there… pause your conversations and ensure they spend as little time sorting your dishes as possible, and then both they can get back to what they’re doing and you can continue your conversations in private

especially true when there are plates, bowls, and cups of all shapes

exception being it’s okay to pile cutlery on a single plate because that’s always going on the top and if not it’s easy to tip off all at once to restack

[-] cows_are_underrated@feddit.org 3 points 6 days ago

Okay, fair enough. How about putting eventual food, that has not been eaten, on the top plate (and in general making sure the plate is not completely dirty)

[-] tetris11@feddit.uk 2 points 6 days ago

This. Heard the same from a waiter friend a while back. Since then, I do nutsack

[-] MostRegularPeople@lemmy.world 2 points 6 days ago

Nutsack is preferable.

[-] Stalinwolf@lemmy.ca 21 points 1 week ago

My wife and I do this, but I've always wondered whether I'm actually helping or just creating a different kind of inconvenience by not organizing them in a beneficial way.

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[-] explodicle@sh.itjust.works 19 points 1 week ago

This and the shopping cart thing share the theme of consuming with less cost to the business owner, but with no actual difference (or making it worse) for the employees. Their boss will use all of their time no matter how much work they do. You aren't saving them work; you're saving the boss' money.

If you decline to go into a business near closing, then you're my kind of people. If you tip highly you're my kind of people. If you order clearly, concisely, and politely you're my kind of people.

But while you're pushing Sisyphus' boulder up the hill, he just has to go find another boulder.

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[-] brygphilomena@lemmy.dbzer0.com 18 points 1 week ago

I may tidy up. But I don't stack. I won't even stack at my house, I hate touching the dirty bottom of a plate.

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[-] rbos@lemmy.ca 16 points 1 week ago

As long as you don't overstack it. Make a tidy stack that can be carried easily with one hand securely. If you eg put utensils between plates you can cause an accident.

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[-] jws_shadotak@sh.itjust.works 14 points 1 week ago

I usually have a pack of gum and I deliberately start a pattern on how I take pieces out. Usually it's from left to right, emptying a full row before I move on to the next.

My test is to offer them gum and see where they pick from. Will they recognize a pattern and continue it? Or will they be oblivious?

Either way, it's not a measure of good or bad. It's just a fun lil test.

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