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What about similar oddities in English?
(This question is inspired by this comic by https://www.exocomics.com/193/ (link found by BunScientist@lemmy.zip)) Edit: it's to its in the title. Damn autocorrect.

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[-] wildncrazyguy138@fedia.io 70 points 1 week ago

My wife and I had a good snicker one time when I brought home edamame peas in the shell.

They were shelled, but she wanted them shelled.

Flammable/imflammable is another one that comes to mind.

[-] Reverendender@sh.itjust.works 64 points 1 week ago

As carved into history by Dr. Nick:

[-] merc@sh.itjust.works 13 points 1 week ago

English has many contronyms.

  • Clip: to attach (clip X to Y) or detach (clip coupons)
  • Dust: to remove dust or to add it (dust the cake with icing sugar)
  • Fine: excellent (fine wine) or not great but decent (it's fine)
  • Left: remaining (I have 5 left) or gone (I had some but they left)
  • Oversight: supervision (he had oversight over the whole process) or lack of supervision (I forgot to do that, it was an oversight)
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[-] EndOfLine@lemmy.world 68 points 1 week ago
[-] SnotFlickerman 16 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Pretty sure the past tense of "lead" is actually "led."

Unless of course you're referring to the type of metal, lead, which I guess the meme isn't clear on.

[-] moondoggie@lemmy.world 51 points 1 week ago

Pretty sure there’s a chemical element named “lead”

[-] _edge@discuss.tchncs.de 10 points 1 week ago

I heard lead leads in weight.

[-] stinerman@midwest.social 5 points 1 week ago

Interesting if true.

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[-] leadore@lemmy.world 17 points 1 week ago

It's not saying anything about past tenses in that meme, it's just saying that each word has two different pronunciations that rhyme with the other.

[-] AnUnusualRelic@lemmy.world 5 points 1 week ago

What's not clear? It's written right there!

[-] inclementimmigrant@lemmy.world 4 points 1 week ago

It's all about led vs lēd.

[-] everett@lemmy.ml 41 points 1 week ago
[-] ouRKaoS@lemmy.today 5 points 1 week ago

This is the grammar thing I fuck up the most, and I don't call people on it because I'm pretty sure I don't know how it works. Autocorrect changes it & I just say "oh, whoops", and it still looks wrong...

[-] HugeNerd@lemmy.ca 15 points 1 week ago

it's means "it is". It is really not difficult, just pretend you are Data and swear off contractions.

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[-] everett@lemmy.ml 8 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Here's a shortcut: test if you could drop "his" into the same spot and have it make sense. (And of course you'd never write hi's or his's.) If "his" would work, "its" would work.

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[-] pruwybn@discuss.tchncs.de 29 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

bought, caught, taught, fought, thought, sought, and wrought are all past tense verbs and all rhyme. The present tense forms are buy, catch, teach, fight, think, seek, and work, none of which rhyme.

[-] capuccino@lemmy.world 5 points 1 week ago

Spanish is awesome. All its verbs in their regular form do end in "-ar", "-er" and "-ir".

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[-] anothermember@feddit.uk 23 points 1 week ago

Fast can mean moving with great speed or fixed securely in place (among other things).

[-] zerodawn@leaf.dance 17 points 1 week ago

The alarm went off so i turned it off.

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[-] afk_strats@lemmy.world 19 points 1 week ago

The Chaos by Gerard Nolst Trenité (1922)

https://ncf.idallen.com/english.html

Dearest creature in creation
Studying English pronunciation,
I will teach you in my verse
Sounds like corpse, corps, horse and worse.

I will keep you, Susy, busy,
Make your head with heat grow dizzy;
Tear in eye, your dress you'll tear;
Queer, fair seer, hear my prayer.

Pray, console your loving poet,
Make my coat look new, dear, sew it!
Just compare heart, hear and heard,
Dies and diet, lord and word.
...

Very long. Highly recommended

[-] SorryImLate@piefed.social 15 points 1 week ago

The primary accent for 2-syllable words that are used as both a noun and a verb depends on the part of speech. The noun places the primary accent on the 1st syllable, the verb on the 2nd syllable.

Examples:
The musician records a record.
The farmer produces produce.
You're not permitted to fish without a permit.

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[-] CrabAndBroom@lemmy.ml 13 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

One of my favourites is the word jam, which can mean:

  • A fruit preserve
  • Traffic that's stopped
  • To play music
  • A door that won't open
  • A difficult situation
  • To force something in somewhere it's not supposed to be
  • To interrupt a signal
  • Something you don't like or can't do ("that's not my jam")

And probably others, all spelled and pronounced the same way but with wildly different meanings depending on the context.

The other English thing I find super interesting is how there's a sort of unspoken but very clearly understood order to adjectives. So for example, if I say "The big old red wooden door" it works as a description, but if I say "The wooden old red big door" it sounds weird even though it's the same information. People aren't usually formally taught the order (as far as I know), but everyone seems to understand it.

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[-] ICastFist@programming.dev 12 points 1 week ago

Welcome to english, where rules are actually the exceptions

[-] CrabAndBroom@lemmy.ml 6 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

I before E, except after C!

As long as you don't count the word caffeine. Or protein. Or species. Or seize or heinous or leisure or weird or feign or their or reignite or any of the other 923 words that are exceptions to this rule lol.

[-] Treczoks@lemmy.world 10 points 1 week ago

Where, were, we're. Even native speakers have problems with this. I don't know how many times I had to correct such cases, especially with American authors.

[-] AnUnusualRelic@lemmy.world 16 points 1 week ago

Pretty much only native speakers have problems with this, I see this type of mistake far less frequently with those who learned English as an additional language.

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[-] mapu@slrpnk.net 7 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

I pronounce these all differently though? [wɛɹ], [wəɹ] and [wiɹ]

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[-] ilinamorato@lemmy.world 9 points 1 week ago

"Read" and "readed."

[-] merc@sh.itjust.works 9 points 1 week ago

English has way more vowel sounds than it has vowels.

  • jack
  • barn
  • arena
  • ball
  • able
  • rare

Those are just words where the primary vowel letter is "a".

The terrible attempt to solve this is by using double letters, but then consistency goes out the window. There's times when "ea" is a single vowel sound like /rid/ (reed) or /rɛd/ (red). But it can also be /ɛrn/ as in earn, which rhymes with urn and burn. It can be /ˈɡɹeɪt/ as in great, where the "ea" is a diphthong and pronounced like the "a" in grate or vague. Or, for more fun, the two letters can each fully get their own pronunciation like "react" or "theatre".

We're really at the "bearn it all down and start over" stage with English. Let's just all agree to switch to español.

[-] _edge@discuss.tchncs.de 8 points 1 week ago

"Read" is spelled s-a-m-e? English is a weird language.

[-] WhyIHateTheInternet@lemmy.world 6 points 1 week ago

Wait until you hear about how we pronounce colonel!

[-] snooggums@piefed.world 6 points 1 week ago

We pronounce it the same as the linux colonel.

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[-] _edge@discuss.tchncs.de 8 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Present: read

Past: red (in the fediverse), redd (on the old site)

Obvious.

[-] hddsx@lemmy.ca 6 points 1 week ago

“It has been red”.

So was the text red or has the text been read?

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[-] BunScientist@lemmy.zip 7 points 1 week ago
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[-] projektilski@lemmy.dbzer0.com 7 points 1 week ago

The English language is so retarded yet we use it for international communication, and it is too late to stop it.

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[-] aesthelete@lemmy.world 6 points 1 week ago

Reed and Red

[-] leftzero@lemmy.dbzer0.com 6 points 1 week ago

The digraph oo is pronounced at least six different ways:

  • boot, proof, boost, scoop, moon
  • book, foot, look, cookie, good
  • floor, poor, door, moor
  • flood, blood
  • zoology, cooperative
  • brooch (just brooch; there doesn't seem to be any other word in the whole language using this sound for oo).
[-] Wizard_Pope@lemmy.world 7 points 1 week ago

Are the first 2 lines really different?

Genuine question from a non native speaker.

[-] Randelung@lemmy.world 7 points 1 week ago

first line is a long oo, second line is a short oo.

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[-] crystalmerchant@lemmy.world 5 points 1 week ago

Brooch and mooch.

But, aren't these the same sounds as boot / proof / boost etc.?

[-] snapoff@sh.itjust.works 9 points 1 week ago

Brooch is pronounced like roach

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[-] 2piradians@lemmy.world 6 points 1 week ago

On a different note there is Reading, a football club in UK, which is pronounced "Redding". This pronunciation is akin to the Reading Railroad from Monopoly (which I mispronounced all my life until today).

Little details, picked up along the way.

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[-] CanadaPlus@lemmy.sdf.org 5 points 1 week ago

Reed, red. Homophones should be homographs too.

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[-] Zamboni_Driver@lemmy.ca 4 points 1 week ago

Read and readed

[-] slazer2au@lemmy.world 4 points 1 week ago

Wind as in air moving and wind as in a pathway with twists and turns.

[-] rumba@lemmy.zip 4 points 1 week ago

I've never been a fan of read/read/red They're too popular to all be comingled like that.

Just place read/read with Peruse/Perused

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