As both a Canadian and an American, yes please. Nothing good comes out of MAGA.
Same situation, same answer. Fascists and nazis must be deplatformed. Let them have their echo chamber all to themselves. Defederate.
Yes, please.
Fuck them. Lemmy is Canadian.
MAGA, the people who want to make Canada their 51st state, can fuck right off.
~~However, I do find it funny these "American patriots" feel they need to use Canadian servers to exercise their free speech. Their Orange god is completely against free speech. They should embrace that instead.~~
Edit: Sorry. I misunderstood how this maga place this was hosted when I made the comment. I thought it was on lemmy.ca but I see now how it's hosted and shared.
However, I do find it funny these "American patriots" feel they need to use Canadian servers to exercise their free speech.
Canadian servers? what do you mean? fedidb does not show server location to me
You're correct.
The A record for the domain name maga.place
resolves to 216.144.226.200
, which is under the 216.144.226.0/24 prefix of AS36352 (HostPapa). The prefix being used is registered to madgenius.com
, which is a hosting provider registered in the United States. Curiously, that provider even has their own ASN (AS55154) that's not being used here.
It's also a shared IP address. The address itself resolves to suportefiscal.aptosclinica.com.br.
when you perform a reverse lookup.
As for the domain name itself, a quick whois lookup points to Namecheap. The MX records corroborate this, pointing to registrar-servers.com
.
In any case, the server itself is hosted in Virginia. The hosting provider used is an American company either owned by or reselling services from a Canadian company.
Yes. Build a wall.
Yes, this shouldn’t even be a discussion. There’s no room at the table for fascists.
Yes please, no point in taking any chances.
I vote yes.
We don’t need to federate with a safe space for spreaders of hate and conspiracy theories.
At worst, that instance will become another Grad with trolls that piss everyone off. At best, it’ll be a cluster of people and content I’m just going to block anyway.
Defederate from 1 user? 🤣
It’s always good to self contain problems before they get worse.
Yep, and let’s not forget that MAGA started as a fringe movement… it’s like some people still refuse to fucking learn.
If Nazi.whatever pops up Id want to defederate from that too if they had 1 member
Yep. Fuck em
I think everyone should. that's the whole point of having a decentralized federation system: different people on different instances can decide what's to Nazi for them to tolerate. Not like Xitter where one dude decides what's the acceptable level of Nazi everyone should see every day.
Should Lemmy.ca defederate from a Nazi instance? Yes. Let's not have their fascist propaganda leak into our instances.
The paradox of tolerance is a philosophical concept suggesting that if a society extends tolerance to those who are intolerant, it risks enabling the eventual dominance of intolerance; thereby undermining the very principle of tolerance.
- Wikipedia
Kill it before it lays eggs..!
any instance they label themselves maga are usually up to no good, its a launch point for trolling/russian backed propaganda.
ArtemZ
FYI, their single mod/admin uses slav name Artem + Z letter associated with pride in russian modern war efforts. I don't think it's genuine. Probably a prep for some concern trolling campaign in the future or whatever that was discovered (c/antifa) by a shitposter, or, I suppose, their alt persona for different usecases.
They are heavily moderating and removing any counter argument. So: YES, defederate!
Get them the fuck out of here
I don't think there's any value associating with racists, sexists, homophobes, transphobes, or traitors.
So, yes.
1 user
Lol
No one should ever tolerate intolerance.
Yes, get them the fuck away from us.
Preferably but I can block it easy enough but I’d love it for this place not to get overrun with those annoying, pathetic fucks
Guy from US here ... This is our cancer .. get away from the stupid .
Uhh... duh? Is that even a question? Of course we should ditch the chuds LMAO
Yes, please.
Yes lol, lemmy shouldn't be accepting of these kinds of people. Accepting fascists onto your site is how your site gets ruined for the marginalized groups who have made it their home. It doesn't matter how civil they pretend to be, don't give them an inch
No. Hearing and understanding opinions with which we disagree is part of being a functional adult.
If we end up having a situation where they spam with hate speech etc, that's different but just being conservative? I'd like to hear what they have to say.
John Stuart Mills put it better than I can:
He who knows only his own side of the case, knows little of that. His reasons may be good, and no one may have been able to refute them. But if he is equally unable to refute the reasons on the opposite side; if he does not so much as know what they are, he has no ground for preferring either opinion.
The quote from Mills assumes the "other side" has reasons, or is willing to argue in good faith.
I have no problem with conservative communities. MAGA isn't just a conservative community, it's a hate-driven cult. We already know their reasons, they have nothing else to contribute to a meaningful discourse.
I'm so bored of this "but we need to listen to the opposing view" bullshit. We know what the maga fascists think, we will learn nothing new by putting up with their crap.
100% this.
It's like giving nazi's and child rapists a voice on Lemmy. In fact MAGA is JUST like that.
Why should anyone be forced to listen to Nazi bullshit. Fuck magats. Nazis have only one place in the world, 6 feet under.
You know they're just going to ban anyone who goes in there, that isn't MAGA, right?
Do it before it's too late.
Is the sky blue? This is why the fediverse exists.
Although it would be jumping the gun a bit too soon, you have to let them incriminate themselves. Give them a few weeks and enjoy watching them wasting their time trying to appear to be good faith participants. Then clamp down on them hard when the inevitable hate starts spewing out. Be quite upfront about what you are doing, in fact warn them and their users they will likely be defederated in the future due to the expected devolution of discourse from anyone identifying themselves as such.
No censorship? Does that mean the rest of us can go in there and shit on their terrible opinions?
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