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Starmer stooges seek to block motions on Gaza Genocide at Labour conference (labouroutlook.org)
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30 motions on Gaza blocked from being debated at Labour’s conference in a week’s time. A genocide is taking place but Labour members are not being allowed to even discuss what should be the government’s response. Bureaucratic control is now out of control.

The Conference Arrangements Committee (CAC) met yesterday and decided to rule out more than 30 motions submitted by constituency Labour Partys (CLPs) and affiliated organisations ahead of the party conference in Liverpool which begins on Sunday 28th September. Every motion on Palestine was ruled out of order by the CAC.

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[-] HumanPenguin@feddit.uk 9 points 1 week ago

This is why so much of the left has given up on labour.

The structure of the party is set up to look democratic. But allow leadership to completely silence members they disagree with.

No matter your opinions on Corbyn. And he is far from perfect. He did try to move the party closer to a membership directed one.

And the post Corbyn leadership has worked bloody hard to remove those changes. The PLP and party control knows full well the membership is further left then they are. And considers it their right to take there fees as the only viable alternative to Tories. While working to ignore their views.

A different party is now the only option. The only question is how we pull the left of centre voters together enough. To support one party and beat FPTP. At least long enough to remove it.

[-] mannycalavera@feddit.uk 2 points 1 week ago

This is why so much of the left has given up on labour

Why haven't a credible alternative risen up and taken Labour's place do you think? Have the left given up on Labour.... or have the left just given up? 😕

[-] HumanPenguin@feddit.uk 2 points 1 week ago

Historically it has been that the left agreed that FPTP made any split with Labour a losing battle. More so because the Right is more able to agree on keeping the left out. Then the left is.

But the work done to exclude the left since Starmer took over. And the clear fact that all indications are Both Labour and the Tories are compleatly collapsing polling wise. Means the whole backing the strongest opponent under FPTP is just invalid as a argument now. Right wing Labour has failed to build a viable opposition. While heading so far into authoritarianism themselves. Much of the left support no longer feels able to back the party as a viable alternative.

As for a credible alternative.

Have you been watching Your Party over the last month.

If you missed today's news. A membership lead faction is working to take over the foundation from Corbyn and Sultana.

Summation is the party is the first one promising to be compleatly membership controlled. And is working through the first issues in exactly that way.

For the first time a single party has the support of a huge % of the left. While concentrating on a democratic foundation principal that will mean and future leadership will not have the option to ignore a majority of members as Labour has been doing .

[-] mannycalavera@feddit.uk 1 points 1 week ago

I don't think there is a credible alternative. I might be wrong. But the fiasco around the nascent Your Party shows exactly that. This happens time and time again. Lefty leaning parties descend into factionalism and then apathy. I'm not sure this time it's going to be any different.

Meanwhile buggers like ukip or reform or Tommy "I'm a massive cunt" Robinson-Crusoe capitalise on this and gain support and, shockingly, votes.

I don't know what the answer is. Maybe this current Labour government to grow a spine and force through PR voting before leaving office?

[-] HumanPenguin@feddit.uk 2 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Z Sultana has posted indicating her and Jeremy are working together, and have agreed to continue the building of the party as Published by his group.

If you think it is not a viable alternative due to these rows. You may want to spend some time talking to older Labour Party members, and reading past news articles. The set up and whole history of the Labour party was at least this bad. Just slower to fix arguments due to technology of the time. And deeper division's in actual ideals.

The current founding leadership of this party are at least all making the same claims as to its intended direction. And overcoming disagreements in opinion within a day or less rather then never.

But the press as ever is very much pointing out every single left wing tiff as movement ending. While ignoring the huge ones within reform and the Tories as normal politics.

[-] IcyToes@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

I think your last sentence summarised this well. Not just the press, but centrists, and the right also want it to fail. As long as working people have a home, who gives a shit what they think. It's not for them.

[-] mannycalavera@feddit.uk 1 points 1 week ago

But the press as ever is very much pointing out every single left wing tiff as movement ending.

I take your point about that. The press isn't going to help especially with Corbyn. But "tiff"? Didn't Sultana start legal proceedings against her own party? Do you go straight to chatting with your lawyers if someone disagrees with you at work? I dunno, sounds like a recipe for disaster. At least from the point of view of those two personalities. For sure the movement and party can survive but I'd be surprised of both of them belong to the party at the next election.

[-] HumanPenguin@feddit.uk 1 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

No she threatened as did Corbyns team. First.

The sorta crap you see in disagreements.

Edit: I'll add. Anyone who has watched Labour over the last 40 years. This is hardly a rare response to political arguments.

Tories do it as well. But do tend to be better at keeping internal arguments out of the media. I'm not so sure that is a positive trait.

Important to note. ZS and JC are not the official leaders of this new party. They are leading the founding team. And are again working together having dropped all legal threats.

Members get to vote on leadership in November. Assuming all goes as the plan declares. Both have indicated they will run. ZS still wants to lead with JC as a team. But both fully commit to a membership controlled party. And declare it up to the members to choose the leadership.

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