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Starmer stooges seek to block motions on Gaza Genocide at Labour conference
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I don't think there is a credible alternative. I might be wrong. But the fiasco around the nascent Your Party shows exactly that. This happens time and time again. Lefty leaning parties descend into factionalism and then apathy. I'm not sure this time it's going to be any different.
Meanwhile buggers like ukip or reform or Tommy "I'm a massive cunt" Robinson-Crusoe capitalise on this and gain support and, shockingly, votes.
I don't know what the answer is. Maybe this current Labour government to grow a spine and force through PR voting before leaving office?
Z Sultana has posted indicating her and Jeremy are working together, and have agreed to continue the building of the party as Published by his group.
If you think it is not a viable alternative due to these rows. You may want to spend some time talking to older Labour Party members, and reading past news articles. The set up and whole history of the Labour party was at least this bad. Just slower to fix arguments due to technology of the time. And deeper division's in actual ideals.
The current founding leadership of this party are at least all making the same claims as to its intended direction. And overcoming disagreements in opinion within a day or less rather then never.
But the press as ever is very much pointing out every single left wing tiff as movement ending. While ignoring the huge ones within reform and the Tories as normal politics.
I think your last sentence summarised this well. Not just the press, but centrists, and the right also want it to fail. As long as working people have a home, who gives a shit what they think. It's not for them.
I take your point about that. The press isn't going to help especially with Corbyn. But "tiff"? Didn't Sultana start legal proceedings against her own party? Do you go straight to chatting with your lawyers if someone disagrees with you at work? I dunno, sounds like a recipe for disaster. At least from the point of view of those two personalities. For sure the movement and party can survive but I'd be surprised of both of them belong to the party at the next election.
No she threatened as did Corbyns team. First.
The sorta crap you see in disagreements.
Edit: I'll add. Anyone who has watched Labour over the last 40 years. This is hardly a rare response to political arguments.
Tories do it as well. But do tend to be better at keeping internal arguments out of the media. I'm not so sure that is a positive trait.
Important to note. ZS and JC are not the official leaders of this new party. They are leading the founding team. And are again working together having dropped all legal threats.
Members get to vote on leadership in November. Assuming all goes as the plan declares. Both have indicated they will run. ZS still wants to lead with JC as a team. But both fully commit to a membership controlled party. And declare it up to the members to choose the leadership.