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SEATTLE (AP) — Four U.S. Army soldiers who were part of an elite team that does nighttime missions died when the MH-60 Black Hawk helicopter they were aboard crashed earlier this week near a military base in Washington state, Army officials said Friday.

The helicopter was on a routine training mission west of Joint Base Lewis-McChord when it crashed at about 9 p.m. Wednesday, the U.S. Army Special Operations Command said. The soldiers were part of the 160th Special Operations Aviation Regiment, Airborne, officials said.

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[-] Alexstarfire@lemmy.world 29 points 2 weeks ago

Time for Trump to declare war on gravity.

[-] markko@lemmy.world 4 points 2 weeks ago

We ought to know by now that even something as ridiculous as that could be taken seriously by his lot.

[-] apenstaartje@lemmy.cafe 14 points 2 weeks ago

Not very elite

[-] favoredponcho@lemmy.zip 10 points 2 weeks ago
[-] DaddleDew@lemmy.world 26 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

Training. All pilots or flying crew members, military or civilian, need to fly to become qualified to do their jobs and need to keep flying regularly to maintain their qualification.

[-] Batman@lemmy.world 9 points 2 weeks ago

Theyre always paradropping into American lake. Usually out of airplanes though. It is West of the base.

I rowed in this lake and we almost ran into them in the water one time. Zero warning :/. Our coxwain had us tilt to one side raising the oars directly over their heads before dawn. Not sure what an oar would do to a head. Know they are "jar heads", but a second's hesitation and they could have been "ajar heads".

[-] P00ptart@lemmy.world 4 points 2 weeks ago

A) it's the army, not marines. Marines are jarheads. B) you're not going to do anything to someone floating in a lake by accidentally pushing on their head with a kayak paddle.

[-] OopsOverbombing@lemmy.world 13 points 2 weeks ago

I don't believe he was referring to a kayak though. He mentioned his coxswain, which is a term from crew rowing. A boat of 8 or 4 will typically have one acting as an almost conductor and driver of the boat. Regardless, those oars are much heftier than a plastic kayak oar usually being made of wood and plastics but could definitely do some damage to someone's head in the water.

[-] Batman@lemmy.world 7 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

You're right it was an 8 person racing shell back then. It's atleast 1300 lbs of people giving lots of momentum. Oars were carbon fiber.

[-] OopsOverbombing@lemmy.world 5 points 2 weeks ago

I used to row 8s too but our oars weren't that fancy. Wooden handle with plastic blades.

[-] P00ptart@lemmy.world 1 points 2 weeks ago

Yeah, if intentionally smashing, but still not by the regular motion of paddling.

[-] Reverendender@sh.itjust.works 6 points 2 weeks ago

No, you are still incorrect. Source: I was a rower in high school and college.

[-] P00ptart@lemmy.world 1 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

Get out of here. People deal with far stronger hits to the head than an accidental rowing incident, especially if the oar has hit water beforehand. Even without a helmet, that's nothing compared to the collisions of rugby, hockey or football on a regular basis. You're just being silly.

Edit: the physics just don't match your assertion. The strength motion is on the thrust. Which would be once the oar is already in the water. Not slamming down back into the water. So if someone is in the water floating, they either got lightly bumped on the head, or more likely felt a little pressure pushing their head forward. And being that you were in a rowing club means you have to know that they're much longer oars than a kayak. If you know anything about physics, you know that you need to be on the long end to exert more force on the short end. You might be rowing really hard, but getting hit on the long end, wouldn't even phase someone. So not only is it the wrong time to use force but it's also mechanically not realistic.

[-] P00ptart@lemmy.world 1 points 2 weeks ago

LMAO what weird ass kabal of rowers did I piss off to warrant downvotes on physics?

[-] Dirac@lemmy.today 1 points 2 weeks ago

Physics student here: not down voting the physics down voting the “Ackshually” in response to a joke that was really funny

[-] P00ptart@lemmy.world 1 points 2 weeks ago

Huh, to me it sounded less like a joke, and more of some kind of fantasy. Maybe I read it wrong.

[-] Dirac@lemmy.today 1 points 1 week ago

This was the original comment you made. The joke was “ajar heads”. This is a very clever little joke, if based on a misunderstanding of the term jar head. I don’t see how you could think this was some “fantasy”, friend, but maybe now I’m misunderstanding lol

[-] hildegarde 5 points 2 weeks ago
[-] NewNewAugustEast@lemmy.zip 5 points 2 weeks ago

How does this comment get downvote? There they are polluting the planet with fumes and noise.

Most definitely a nuisance.

[-] Kazel@lemmy.dbzer0.com 7 points 2 weeks ago
[-] Harvey656@lemmy.world 4 points 2 weeks ago

“Known as Night Stalkers, these soldiers are recognized for their proficiency in nighttime operations,”

Hmm... is... this a video game we are talking about? Wtf is this name? Never heard a cool military nickname, its always something dumb.

[-] Nojustice@lemmy.ml 3 points 2 weeks ago
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