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[-] vinceman 50 points 2 months ago

We banned Eminem at his peak, we're dumb as fuckin rocks on these subjects.

[-] miked@sh.itjust.works 33 points 2 months ago

NWA and Beastie Boys too.

[-] CircaV@lemmy.ca 9 points 2 months ago

The Barenaked Ladies were banned FFS 🤦‍♂️🤦‍♀️🤦🏽

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[-] SaveTheTuaHawk@lemmy.ca 7 points 2 months ago

And Jello Biafra.

[-] snoons@lemmy.ca 48 points 2 months ago

“Kneecap represents not only a threat to the Jewish community, but their incitement, their glorification of terror, represent a threat to all Canadian values and to all Canadians,” Robertson said

Not my values you fascist shit bag.

[-] Zamboni_Driver@lemmy.ca 41 points 2 months ago
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[-] RelativityRanger@lemmy.ca 33 points 2 months ago

Remember that american christian MAGA singer two months ago? 🤪

[-] avidamoeba@lemmy.ca 4 points 2 months ago
[-] RelativityRanger@lemmy.ca 4 points 2 months ago

did you see that bozo barred from entering Canada? or even from performing? naah..

[-] ShaggySnacks@lemmy.myserv.one 1 points 2 months ago

You mean the MAGA singer who had a sold out show in Toronto.

[-] Fenrisulfir@lemmy.ca 31 points 2 months ago

Didn’t we just let a super felon rapist in like a month ago?

[-] avidamoeba@lemmy.ca 27 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

This Gasparro dude used to be a board member of Postmedia.

In July, a group of First Nations leaders called on the federal government to close the borders to the rappers, insisting that allowing them to perform violates the “spirit and obligations” of treaties between FN and the government.

This is also interesting.

But in general, we don't have very strong free speech protections so I wouldn't be surprised if they remain barred.

[-] RelativityRanger@lemmy.ca 23 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

A festival was held in Toronto about a month ago in support of Israel, wow crazy that Canada approved such a dangerous endorsement of violence and hate.
No problem with publicly supporting perpetrators of a genocide, right?
https://www.jewishtoronto.com/the-sounds-of-israel

[-] barbatruc@sh.itjust.works 23 points 2 months ago

Who are we to judge people how they resist their occupier. Canada certainly is not in a historical posture to pitch in on how to resist genocide.

[-] Dwazaal@lemmy.world 4 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

Who are we to judge people how they resist their occupier

Hezbollah supported the Syrian military occupation of Lebanon. An occupation that lasted longer than the Israeli occupation. Hezbollah also killed many Lebanese politicians including the most famous, Rafik Hariri.

To defend Bachar El Assad, they slaughtered people across Syria.

The judge investigating the Beirut Port Explosion ? He receive death threats from Hezbollah.

Let's not white wash their crimes.

[-] Medic8teMe@lemmy.ca 17 points 2 months ago

Fucking bullshit. Turn up your music so everyone can hear.

[-] BCBoy911@lemmy.ca 14 points 2 months ago

I'm done with Carney man, this shit is so ass.

[-] Sunshine@piefed.ca 14 points 2 months ago

These guys and Gary Yourofsky have been banned from Canada. WTF!?

[-] theacharnian@lemmy.ca 12 points 2 months ago
[-] cygnus@lemmy.ca 8 points 2 months ago

That's fair, since they're on the record as endorsing groups that are recognized by the Canadian government as terrorist entities:

A 2024 performance reportedly caught a group member cheering “Up Hamas, Up Hezbollah.”

[-] snoons@lemmy.ca 28 points 2 months ago

To be even more fair; you're directly quoting misinformation released by the Canadian government in support of Israel and their mass murder of Palestinian people (aka, genocide). This misinformation is a result of "Jewish" groups, which recently have shown themselves as basically being lapdogs for the Israeli state.

Kneecap aren't anti-semetic, they are anti-Israel and as much as Israeli fascists want it to be; being against the Israeli state is not the the same as being against Jews.

[-] uhmbah@lemmy.ca 4 points 2 months ago
[-] cygnus@lemmy.ca 4 points 2 months ago
[-] Sunshine@piefed.ca 22 points 2 months ago

Yes because people in power have always made decent decisions. The law is moral and might makes right…

[-] cygnus@lemmy.ca 4 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

I'm not sure what you mean by that comment - are you saying Hamas and Hezbollah are OK? I wouldn't welcome a band that praises the IDF, and this is no different.

[-] Sunshine@piefed.ca 10 points 2 months ago

Hamas and Hezbollah are OK?

Where did I say this?

[-] snoons@lemmy.ca 10 points 2 months ago

Hasbara-brained dummies will remember you saying whatever they want, without evidence.

[-] Sunshine@piefed.ca 7 points 2 months ago

They got marked as zionist.

[-] avidamoeba@lemmy.ca 3 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

How, they equated Hezbollah to the IDF. Regardless of any arguments about equivalence or lack thereof, I don't think a zionist would ever do that.

[-] Sunshine@piefed.ca 2 points 2 months ago

They could be misinformed.

[-] OrteilGenou@lemmy.world 2 points 2 months ago

What better way to mitigate misinformation than to silence people?

[-] avidamoeba@lemmy.ca 2 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

We're born misinformed.

But don't mind me, I'm on my third Friday beer. 😄

[-] cygnus@lemmy.ca 1 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

Some people here think everything is a Marvel movie with one perfectly good side and one perfectly bad one. Any deviation from that and they slap you with the "bad guy" label. Only a complete moron would read my post and interpret it as meaning I'm a zionist.

[-] jimmy90@lemmy.world 3 points 2 months ago

what do you think of them?

what do you think of october 7th?

[-] khar21@lemmy.ca 1 points 2 months ago

Ofcourse you go silent as soon as someone directly asks if you support October 7th... Coward.

[-] Sunshine@piefed.ca 4 points 2 months ago

Yet you ignore how 65k Palestinians were murdered by the IDF. How pathetic to throw insults.

[-] khar21@lemmy.ca 1 points 2 months ago

Talk about deflection and straw manning. You still haven't answered the question.

[-] masterspace@lemmy.ca 2 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

I don't think you can take a single live artististic performance as "being on the record for endorsing" anything.

Eminem wasn't endorsing everything in his lyrics.

[-] cygnus@lemmy.ca 2 points 2 months ago
[-] masterspace@lemmy.ca 1 points 2 months ago
[-] cygnus@lemmy.ca 3 points 2 months ago

Me, an intellectual, looking at a guy wearing a Hezbollah flag and saying up Hamas, up Hezbollah: "actually that doesn't prove he likes Hezbollah"

[-] RelativityRanger@lemmy.ca 2 points 2 months ago

https://www.timesofisrael.com/after-up-hamas-up-hezbollah-video-irish-band-kneecap-denies-supporting-terror-groups

The band said on Monday “let us be unequivocal: we do not, and have never, supported Hamas or Hezbollah.”
“We condemn all attacks on civilians, always,” the band said.

[-] cygnus@lemmy.ca 3 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

I find it hard to reconcile that with the video, but if they are willing to publicly apologize for it then they should be allowed into Canada.

[-] masterspace@lemmy.ca 2 points 2 months ago

It's really easy to reconcile that with the video. It's called watching the atrocities that Israel commits, and getting angry enough that you say something you don't entirely mean or haven't entirely thought through.

[-] cygnus@lemmy.ca 3 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

This seems a foreign concept to many folks here and elsewhere online, but somehow I've managed to be horrified by Israel's genocide and want to end it, without ever thinking "you know what, the literal terrorists on the other side are good actually, death to Israel and all Jews".

[-] masterspace@lemmy.ca 1 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

Oh wow! I'm so glad to hear that! We all care sooo much about your personal experience with anger!

Thank God the way that you get angry and emotional, is the exact same way that everyone else does, in every single situation!

Whew, for a second there I thought we might have to use the power of remembering times when we were extremely angry and said things we didn't mean, and try and combine that with empathy to apply it to the current situation, but thank God we don't because /u/Cyrus here has explained that he's never said anything he didn't mean out of anger. So obviously everyone else must be the same in every situation.

Thank you cyrus, we all believe your words sooo much, and definitely don't just think you're a brain dead dumbass.

[-] cygnus@lemmy.ca 1 points 2 months ago

FYI what you're advocating and defending here is textbook abuser behaviour, so rather than belittling others you may want to get counseling.

[-] masterspace@lemmy.ca 1 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

Lmao, tell us you spend all your time on the internet without telling us you spend all your time on the internet.

Go outside. Experience real human interaction.

[-] cygnus@lemmy.ca 1 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

In abusive relationships, abusive partners often apologize but are unwilling to make changes or behave differently. We see them using “sorry” as a child might; to make the situation okay without facing the consequences of their choices. We even hear abusers using apologies to manipulate their partners and avoid taking responsibility for their actions. Some common phrases abusers may use include, “I’m sorry I hurt you, but you shouldn’t have gotten me so angry,” or “I didn’t see healthy relationships growing up and don’t know what to do, I’m sorry.” While this may sound like an apology, it places the blame elsewhere instead of on the abuser’s choice.

Research and outcomes of partnerships in various contexts, including intimate partnerships, have shown these self-centered approaches do not drive collaboration, a core factor in healthy partnerships. Only when an abusive partner takes accountability for their actions and begins steps to prevent the behavior in the future (I.e., battering or counseling focused on changing the abusive mindset) can they begin to make amends.

https://www.thehotline.org/resources/what-if-my-abusive-partner-apologizes/

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