The vast, vast majority of people are forgotten within 100 years. Pretty much need to be in an extremely high position where records are kept, like presidents, or do something extraordinarily positive or negative.
I strongly doubt anyone reading this post will be remembered after the people they met or interacted with directly have died.
Or be a really shitty copper merchant
Yeah, weird random chance makes a huge difference. Otzi was probably well known, but only hyper-regionally. Lucy was basically just an unusually smart animal, and that was millions of years ago.
And just because you're forgotten for a bit doesn't mean you won't come back into style.
Hmm. So if you want 15 minutes of fame a long time from now, what's some weird easter egg you can leave?
I actually have a geneology book （族谱） from my paternal lineage (everybody does this in China). Its just a bunch of names, and some history of the village summarized. I hate tradition and I'm already in the US right now, I dont give a shit about the stupid geneology book anymore, my ancesters will probably be so pisses to find out that I totally ignored all the hard efforts lol. (My village still has a copy, but I'm not adding more name to the stupid thing, a waste of time, its also misogynistic AF, if there's a daugher, then the lineage doesn't record their decendents. So dumb, as I guy, I hate this patriarchal bullshit)
Some aspects of that tradition are commendable, though. It would be neat to see this updated in a less male-centric fashion.
I'm still alive and I'm already forgotten. 👌
With the U.S. only being 250 years old, I can't say anyone would remember presidents in 600 years. If the U.S. is gone there will likely be mention of 1 president that was in power when whatever came and took/changed it. During the planetary destruction revolution there was a plethora of wasteful greed. They called it an industrial revolution that ran rampant with greed and wastefulness.
History preserved the names of heads of state from countries that had a much shorter existence or impact. 600 years might seem a long time to Americans but it's not that long for historical memory.
Sure, then everything in history would be "remembered" forever... Except no one would know or care. To me, that is not remembered.
I would say Jesus is forgotten completely at this point even though he is written/read everywhere
Well, do you remember anyone from 1425 or even 1625?
Tbf, they didn't have mass surveillance back then.
If the data doesn't get lost, someone could find an average human in a developed country born in the 21st century, and could know what their entire life is like.
"It's my estimation that every man ever got a statue made of him was one kind of sommbitch or another."
No one needs to remember me except my kids. Maybe my grandkids.
Too late, thanks to big tech, your grandkids will know what type of porn you watch.
Yeah, and they'll like it, whether they like it or not!
"JAYNE, the man they call Jayne."
To be fair I don't remember anyone from 600 years in the future.
I imagine some archivists might find the lost fragments of this server is some ruins and by some miracle, maybe extract this very thread.
We all will be living inside the weights of LLMs from this era.
Ok that's actually an interesting use of AI. Train on only media from that time period. This is Daniel, from the year 1400. Tell me about the Catholic Church
Brave of you to assume that humanity will exist in 600 years.
Actually, we might be, but the better-off ones will be back at sticks and stones and huddling around wood fires and the like.
There's a running phrase that gets' mentioned a lot in the Peanuts comic strip: "500 years from now, who'll know the difference?"
Just wanted to mention that. Peace ✌️
I will write a blog complaining about copper prices. If my sources are correct I will be remembered forever.
No, but AIs will be able to generate a statistically accurate simulacrum of a set of people like us.
I don't think humanity is going to make it another 600 years tbh
I think humans might, but we won't have fancy skyscrapers, we'll be living in bunkers hiding from whatever disaster (war, plague, radiation, alien invasion) is on the surface.
An alien invasion couldn't possibly make things worse.
They may not remember us by our names, but they'll be able to see the effects of the choices we made.
Doesn't even take that long. My parent passed away and left boxes of pictures from 50 to 75 years ago and no one recognizes. Why did they have these pictures and boxes of them? No notes. Nothing.
As they say in preservation, metadata is key.
No.
Because history remembers people or groups who have made astounding and monumental moments that change the course of history.
They aren't going to remember a dude who spent most of their time jerking off and doing the average lifestyle.
And why 600 years?
Dude I’ll forget you ever existed when I leave this thread. Bye.
They will if I eat the Mona Lisa
I am doing Genealogy as a hobby and in most of the lines I am in the 18the century, in some in the 17th century.
What I learned during this hobby is a simple thing - the more generations you go back, the more ancestors you have - the formula is 2^n. So if you go back 10 generations, you have roughly 1,024 ancestors.
Now imagine how many descendants these people have? I have met plenty of others nerds who are also doing genealogy, cousins by 7the grade and so on. There is always some dude doing this stuff, so I am pretty sure there will be one in the future.
Of course I can only go back about 300-350 years, but we people today are leaving way more traces on this planet than my ancestors in the 17th century.
No.
My name is on some US patents. Out of anything, I expect those to have the best odds of surviving for 600 years. Of course no one will look them up in 600 years unless they have really niche interests.
I don't want to brag, but I've made a meme or two that got dozens of up votes. It's basically immortality. I'm sure there will be statues and monuments of me by then.
History from this period will feast or famine. If the Internet Archive is preserved long term, then your words on the Internet will be there. If not, then bitrot will happen within decades.
The feast result will be an interesting one for historians. We don't usually have historical records about common people of any era more than a century or two back. "History is written by the victors" isn't quite right. History is written by writers, and for most of history, those would be educated upper class people.
Historians love finding Roman graffiti, even when it's about some guy's giant cock. So yes, they'll be interested in your memes, too.
Relative to a normal life, nobody knows me now... and with where and how I live that likely won't change.
So definitely not, aside from the unlikely event I could get my head preserved (likely questionable testing). Then again I know in all likelihood that wouldn't work, so I'm not sure getting a mention in some niche Wikipedia article would be the same as being remembered.
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