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The world is a better place when there are fewer horrible people in it.
That's just math.
Addition by subtraction.
You really see who is who when you say you wish others like him also died.
I don't think it's performative to want the bigots to become people that aren't bigots rather than wanting them dead. I mean I'll take dead over spreading the sort of hate he was in a case like that I guess, and I get that the later is something other people have much more control over than the former, but still.
Quothe Abraham Lincoln: I destroy my enemy when I make him my friend.
Should have befriended Mr. Booth
And then the rebels were pardoned and the whole "lost cause" narrative was allowed to take root.
Depending on how the coming crackdown they’re planning plays out, I am not sure it’s true we’ll be better off with him dead. This is the main problem with political assassination as a political strategy.
That crackdown was coming regardless. Idk how to tell y'all any more clearly, but the fascists are going to escalate no matter what we do. Your options are to either fight back or roll over.
They decided a leftist killed Charlie before his body was even cold. Reality doesn’t matter anymore.
This has always been the Republican platform: "It's all their fault!"
They just keep screaming it, no matter how much proof you may have that it's on them. They know what they're doing, they're just lying. Like trickle-down. It's obvious bullshit, but they're more than willing to lie to enrichen their billionaire overlords.
As I said elsewhere I have no doubt they would try but this is allowing them to go further and muting criticism of their crackdown. It clearly increases the chances of success for their power grab.
I swear so many leftists have literally no understanding of politics or how public opinion influences political outcomes. It is maddening.
I never said don’t fight back. But fight smart. Killing Charlie Kirk isn’t fighting back, it’s just an expression of self-destructive rage from someone who probably wasn’t even a leftist.
I never said don’t fight back. But fight smart. Killing Charlie Kirk isn’t fighting back, it’s just an expression of self-destructive rage from someone who probably wasn’t even a leftist.
It's weird how you seem to be aware the killer wasn't a leftist, but are scolding leftists for not "fight[ing] smart" anyway.
I think it's important to keep in mind that the "political strategy" aspect of it doesn't really apply since leftists didn't do it and thus had no choice in the matter.
In fact, as far as political strategy goes, the only one on the table appears to be "blame the left for all violence anyway, even blatantly falsely." Strictly from a game theory perspective, if leftists are going to suffer the negative effects anyway, they might as well commit the things they're being accused of so they at least capture the positive effects too.
Fair but I’m speaking to the people who are here saying that we should do more of this kind of thing… perhaps including you? Whether the shooter was or wasn’t a leftist isn’t relevant to that talking point.
I don’t agree with the second statement. Some fools will believe anything but a lot of fence sitters who might defend us may not if we really do what we’re being accused of.
Hoping that the "fence sitters" will ally with us if we "act right" is as perfect of a self-defeating strategem as offing right-wing talking heads all over the place, methinks.
What, because your preferred strategy of doing nothing is working so well?
Wake the fuck up.
Why is this framed as a political assassination when fuckhead wasn't a politician? He was just some asshole.
because the rich assholes behind all this mess own nearly all media outlets, the narrative must be controlled. hence recent move to try and censor various private companies whose lines of communication arent (as) under their thumb.
Oh, sure I'll take a nazi flipping 180°, I would prefer that cause the fascist would be horribly mad because of it, but a dead nazi is the next best thing. In the end none of us had any say in the matter.
Some men improve the world only by leaving it.
Y'all need to stop worrying about performative leftists and start worrying about the speed running fascists.
sadly, pretty sure most of america is coping on a "return to normal" (especially those greedy self-serving establishment politicians) that's not coming, when trump dies.
shit needs to get here sooner rather than later to snap the illusion with time to spare
Seen a lot of people that loved to say "only good Nazi is a dead Nazi" upset that someone killed a Nazi
One Nazi killed another Nazi. We're down not one, but two Nazis.
Same old story; Nazis killing Nazis.
Lol the shooter was not a Nazi, where do you get your information?
He was a follower of Nick Fuentes. Pretty cut and dry.
He literally wasn't. All available evidence points to the shooter as being far left of Charlie Kirk, rather than to the right. I know you would love for that to be the case, but it was never a reasonable explanation in the first place.
Do you have a source?
I have only heard rumors about that.
A Pro-trans rights nazi!? I swear you people are Martians, with claims so bizarre.
I'm glad Kirk is gone, I'll never not be happy about that, I think it's objectively good. But I think it's still important to recognise that it's very shitty that he did end up a miserable little cunt who was better off dead.
Mostly though, I'm just worried about how celebrating death makes it seem like a virtue we'd want or accept in a new society. Revolution at a necessary cost, don't get me wrong, but we shouldn't celebrate the cost itself. I think it's totally okay to celebrate the end result, "the problem of Charlie Kirk is now solved" or something lol, but the method was both objectively awful and necessary.
Murder is a tool as all violence is, but we should it treat as what it is: a horrible one we're forced to use to attain liberation and thus ultimately a form of violence inflicted upon us. After a revolution, I think it's best left behind in this shitty fucking world we all hate.
Regardless, get fucked Kirk, good riddance and rest in piss you slimey little cunt.
those "perfomative leftists"" are probably right wingers that are too embarrsed to be fully open with thier beliefs.
I'm not sad he's dead. I hate how he died because it's giving cover to their acceleration of their fascism.
Which is ridiculous because nothing has changed, they’re still doing exactly what they were doing when he was alive.
This idea that you can never do anything or the fascists might use it as an excuse to do what they’re already doing is one of the most infuriating thing about Americans.
This. Trying to be nice and quiet so they won't keep doing what they always do is the mentality of a battered spouse.
The fact they've turned MAGA on MAGA violence into a false flag against the left shows that they will use ANY opportunity to target political opposition and justify the accelerationism they were already doing.
They were probably expecting far more protests, and protest violence, by now against ICE, nat guard, etc. Might as well use MAGA terrorism to justify what they planned to do all along with ICE terrorism; potato, potatoe.
it's giving cover to their acceleration of their fascism.
they didn't need and don't care about cover for what they're doing.
What is this meme image from?
I think this is the original but its been like remixed tons of times
Edit: Heres the context https://knowyourmeme.com/memes/i-bring-a-sort-of-x-vibe-to-the-y
I don't disagree, but I'm not white and I know for a fact that if I said something like that in public I'd immediately increase 10x the chance of getting shot by some unhinged white dude. In fact, a lot of the "he didn't deserve to die" is not actually genuine, its more like a fear of reprisal since the US no longer has true free speech.
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