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Ladder of Alien (feddit.dk)
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[-] Johnny101@lemmy.world 1 points 17 hours ago

I wouldn’t put humans right below god

[-] supersquirrel@sopuli.xyz 25 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

annoying nitpick

There is no progression up a ladder in evolution, not towards sophistication nor complexity.

Every single species alive on earth comes from a genetic lineage precisely as old and thus "evolved" as we do. Species can shed complexity and capabilities from evolutionary pressures just as much they can gain them.

I know this is a meme but framings subconciously slip into our ways of thinking like this very easily.

[-] DrDystopia@lemy.lol 10 points 2 weeks ago

I'm going to nitpick even harder - Who says it's a ladder depicting evolution? Maybe this framing subconsciously slipped into your way of thinking? It could be a ladder depicting of how the author regards creatures in terms of moral ability or even price per pound of entity. I'll go one further, the inclusion of "God" on the ladder indicates that it's not an evolutionary ladder.

[-] supersquirrel@sopuli.xyz 5 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

My point is about the conceptual framing of a ladder leading to a narrow frame of view about evolution, not that this particular meme is portraying itself literally as an evolutionary ladder.

[-] CrackedLinuxISO@lemmy.dbzer0.com 17 points 2 weeks ago

Excuse me, it's called Alien^3^, and what exactly is the problem with it?

[-] ChicoSuave@lemmy.world 12 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

Not much except that it came out after one of the greatest science fiction sequels of all time and couldn't escape the shadow of its success. Also the lack of weapons for a prison seems like it's less dungeon and more of an oubliette, which was never stated in the film but would make sense for how the prisoners are left to fend for themselves and have no regulation about mixing populations.

But I agree with you that the third one isn't bad.

[-] frezik 4 points 2 weeks ago

There's also a lot of context around its production and release that's only memorable to people who were fans at the time. It spent years in development with several rewrites. There was a publicly stated intent that the xenomorphs would be coming to Earth. Total mess of a production with poor setting of expectations.

Decades later, we can ignore all that and judge the film on its merits. I think it's ok, but not great.

[-] runner_g 1 points 2 weeks ago

My biggest issue with 3 was how the writers failed to build a good mental map for the audience of the tunnels. The whole 10 minute "chase" scene had me thoroughly confused as to how close the alien was to anyone else.

[-] DrDystopia@lemy.lol 3 points 2 weeks ago

what exactly is the problem with it?

Studio interference.

[-] stenAanden@feddit.dk 12 points 2 weeks ago

I don't care what you say. No cut can make up for killing off Newt, Hicks and Bishop like that.

[-] elgordino@fedia.io 8 points 2 weeks ago

The ‘Legacy Cut’ a fan made 4k restoration and recut of Alien 3 is well worth a look. Much better than any of the released versions imo.

You can get it here https://www.a34k.net/

[-] Jessica@discuss.tchncs.de 6 points 2 weeks ago

God at the top 🤢

[-] zakobjoa@lemmy.world 5 points 2 weeks ago
[-] dditty@lemmy.dbzer0.com 7 points 2 weeks ago

Yes Alien 3 is the David Fincher one where the studio meddled. Certainly not the worst in the franchise (my vote would be Alien: Resurrection) but still pretty bad imo

[-] DrDystopia@lemy.lol 2 points 2 weeks ago

It could have been worse, the script sketch the final movie is based on was set on a wooden prison planet. Like a wooden barrel space station sort of thing.

[-] TheGiantKorean@lemmy.world 4 points 2 weeks ago

I refuse to acknowledge its existence.

[-] stenAanden@feddit.dk 2 points 2 weeks ago

Hold the wall.

[-] zod000@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 2 weeks ago

And yet, the movie that came after was worse.

[-] bryophile@lemmy.zip 2 points 2 weeks ago

I think this is offensive to mosses

[-] BeigeAgenda@lemmy.ca 2 points 2 weeks ago

I'm happy below the plants, I think it was fine.

The first 4 with Ripley are good, the rest are strange with a bad plot.

[-] DmMacniel@feddit.org 2 points 2 weeks ago

Sorry, but Cephalopods have to be above God.

[-] Simulation6@sopuli.xyz 1 points 2 weeks ago

Higher Plants should probably go above Molluscs, but I agree with the rest.

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