204
Saying Nothing Is Best (lemmy.dbzer0.com)
all 50 comments
sorted by: hot top controversial new old
[-] cupcakezealot@piefed.blahaj.zone 152 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

i'm not using the death of a white supremacist to make kissy faces at fucking people who spent the last four years calling for the death of trans people.

also fucking glad i blocked gavin on bsky

[-] bytesonbike@discuss.online 148 points 1 month ago
[-] Runaway@lemmy.zip 17 points 1 month ago

Woah hold up. That seems like too good of an idea for democrats

[-] acockworkorange@mander.xyz 13 points 1 month ago

Cause it is. They won't do it.

[-] Rhaedas@fedia.io 84 points 1 month ago

Any of Charlie's ideas that were tested through good-faith debate never survived. He and many others of his kind tend to avoid that kind of discussion.

[-] bear 25 points 1 month ago

Big "I was told there wouldn't be fact checking" energy.

[-] Lucidlethargy@sh.itjust.works 18 points 1 month ago

Yeah, he was literally in the middle of blaming gun violence on trans people through pure intellectual dishonesty right before he died.

[-] Rhaedas@fedia.io 4 points 1 month ago

As an atheist, I put it on the shelf of "maybe could be evidence of divine intervention". But of course then I'd have to ask where has he been all these other times?

[-] Sabin10@lemmy.world 77 points 1 month ago

Good faith debate made me laugh, the dude was literally in the middle of moving the goal posts when gukrackk

As a trans person, fuck Gavin newsom

[-] I_Clean_Here@lemmy.world 3 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

You know he's baiting right? Or are you this dense. Everything he mentions is the opposite of what Kirk did.

[-] Catpurple 14 points 1 month ago

He was friends with Kirk and talked together on a podcast, at least once. It's not bait.

[-] LodeMike@lemmy.today 51 points 1 month ago

If the Democrats run this guy in 2028 the country is over.

[-] echo@lemmings.world 48 points 1 month ago

Uh... it's already over. The Fascist Fuck sitting in the POTUS seat has already been trying to tell you this...

In any case, even in a non-rigged election, Newsom would get trashed just like Clinton.

[-] PenguinMage@lemmy.world 20 points 1 month ago

If we even get to vote in the mid terms it'll only be because the full roll out isn't done yet.

[-] BlameTheAntifa@lemmy.world 8 points 1 month ago

The Red states are already voting in the midterms by preemptively choosing whose votes matter.

[-] PenguinMage@lemmy.world 5 points 1 month ago

They just redistricted my state to ensure their wins... gods willing hotwheels finds a luigi

[-] Zorque@lemmy.world 11 points 1 month ago

Clinton barely lost, mostly because idiots proclaimed that there was no point in voting because the system was already beyond repair.

[-] mathemachristian 7 points 1 month ago

Sounds like she sucked at making people believe she would make a difference, which given this is killary "we came we saw he died" KKKlinton who's husband is behind the "tough on crime" bill that is largely responsible for the size of the current prison inmate population in seppoland is completely understandable. Get better candidates or stop being surprised why no one would show up to vote for you.

[-] Zorque@lemmy.world 1 points 1 month ago

Wild that your argument hinges on Trump being the better candidate, as slightly more people showed up for him (in specific states).

[-] mathemachristian 2 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

How? His strategy wasn't based on motivating minorities to vote for him but Hillary's was. He appealed to the racists and won, and she tried to make the case that she would improve things and failed.

[-] Zorque@lemmy.world 1 points 1 month ago

Well your argument seems to be that people will show up for a better candidate, and people showed up for him.

Ergo, you think he was the better candidate.

Unless of course your argument is basically you refuse to participate unless everyone else fixes everything for you, so you dont actually have do anything difficult to make things better yourself.

If you wait for perfection to happen without you, it will never come. You have to fight for something better. Sometimes that means settling for something that's not good enough yet so that things can get better later.

[-] mathemachristian 3 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Unless of course your argument is basically you refuse to participate unless everyone else fixes everything for you, so you dont actually have do anything difficult to make things better yourself.

I dont get why everyone assumes this? I'm not in Seppoland but will always advocate for organizing with the PSL or DSA. That's how NYC got Mamdani in position. Unless of course your argument is basically you refuse to do anything unless everyone else fixes everything for you, so you can then just vote for it.

Sometimes that means settling for something that’s not good enough yet so that things can get better later.

I mean thats basically your strat right? Keep voting for these candidates, Killary, Genocide Joe, Bomber Harris, now it looks like it could be gruesome newsom, until somehow, magically a good candidate that will fix everything comes along.

[-] Zorque@lemmy.world 1 points 1 month ago

I dont get why everyone assumes this? I’m not in Seppoland but will always advocate for organizing with the PSL or DSA. That’s how NYC got Mamdani in position

Because you didn't say anything about that until now. You just said "candidate bad, so they lose" as though there's only one point of failure and the only solution is for someone else to step up and be "the good guy".

You want people to take action? Stop putting 100% of the blame on a scape goat. Put power back into the populace by saying their action, or inaction in this case, has consequences.

That lack of action led to Hillary losing. It led to her being the Democrats candidate. It led to the Democratic machine being as flawed as it is. It led to there only being two party options at the end of the Presidential election.

Stop blaming one person, and giving a pass to the other 350 million people who let this happen.

[-] mathemachristian 1 points 1 month ago

There was action during the 2016 campaign. A lot of it. Behind Bernie. But instead of listening to their base they killed that momentum to run the establishment favorite. The democratic machine was very flawed before that. So yeah there was no action behind killary because they killed the masses orginization. And after that people stopped organizing within the dem party because whats the point if the establishment can just decide to flush all that hard work and sacrifice down the toilet.

I am not blaming one person, I am blaming the few at the top for rigging the game and refuse to blame those that don't want to vote for those that stabbed them in the back and made all that effort moot. If the dems wanna win they gotta win back that trust by letting outside organizers do their thing.

[-] elbiter@lemmy.world 29 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Yeah, sure... the MAGAs are an excellent example of Good Faith Debate 🤦

[-] captainlezbian@lemmy.world 14 points 1 month ago

Charlie Kirk, famously a good faith debater lol

[-] ImgurRefugee114@reddthat.com 29 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

"Continue his work"...

I almost hate liberals more than open fascists. At least they admit they want to kill you rather than just casually enabling it in the name of some twisted and perverse form of civility. Republicans want you in death camps, democrats want them to file the right paperwork first.

[-] ChonkyOwlbear@lemmy.world 26 points 1 month ago

Pretty funny if you read the tone as sarcastic.

[-] PyroNeurosis 3 points 1 month ago

Damn. If he followed internet convention with the /s, I would be rolling. But from what I know of him, I believe him to be sincere.

[-] Marshezezz 26 points 1 month ago

What a fucking tool

[-] frustrated_phagocytosis@fedia.io 23 points 1 month ago

I laughed and assumed it was sarcastic.

[-] Fleur_@aussie.zone 20 points 1 month ago

The key phrase being "in a democracy." Are you sure that's what you guys have?

[-] kadaverin0@lemmy.dbzer0.com 10 points 1 month ago

The only time I'd "reach across the aisle" for fascist dipshits is to smash them in the face with a brick.

[-] heyWhatsay@slrpnk.net 8 points 1 month ago

And there will still be people wanting to prop him up as presidential material

[-] TheDemonBuer@lemmy.world 8 points 1 month ago

Somebody get this dip shit a history book.

[-] MedicPigBabySaver@lemmy.world 8 points 1 month ago

Hey, Gavin, STFU.

[-] homesweethomeMrL@lemmy.world 8 points 1 month ago

Y’all gonna shit yourselves when he runs the table on the primaries.

You could organize now - maybe work out a name and some cool election swag? Or . . . Really any effort at all in promoting a person would be good. Lines are open, call now!

[-] ButtermilkBiscuit@feddit.nl 7 points 1 month ago

Yeah keep talking while the pedos steal the supreme court, jerry rig elections, ignore the bill of rights, and steal your retirement. Keep talking and talking and talking. That will fix this, more talking. Or.....maybe......bash a fascist and when the next fascist comes along bash that Nazi too. The time for talking is over and all the neocons in government should get out of the fucking way.

[-] Bonesince1997@lemmy.world 3 points 1 month ago
[-] captainlezbian@lemmy.world 2 points 1 month ago

"Well you see sir the reason I deserve to be treated with human decency is that I think I'm a person, I know you disagree and we can agree to do so…"

this post was submitted on 10 Sep 2025
204 points (100.0% liked)

Bluesky

1698 readers
5 users here now

People skeeting stuff.

Bluesky Social is a microblogging social platform being developed in conjunction with the decentralized AT Protocol. Previously invite-only, the flagship Beta app went public in February 2024. All are welcome!

founded 10 months ago
MODERATORS