don't make me tap the sign
AI is already getting people killed by driving them to suicide. I sometimes like to chat with LLMs, but if that subject is anything serious, then it becomes VERY irritating indeed.
Literally exactly what we have been warning about. The UK really has overtaken China in some areas of dystopianism at this point.
Bit dramatic mate. One guy called Steve Jones got mixed up with another guy called Steve Jones. Shit happens.
The problem is not the mix up, because of the same name or a similar appearence, but rather that the processing done by the authorities with support of AI cannot be intervened by humans. Imagine you can resolve something only after you have been fined or, worst case scenario, booked into jail.
Look, I hate the intrusion into our lives of unaccountable computer systems as anyone. But this article has nothing to do with facial recognition or AI. It's a bureaucratic fuck up.
Manchester City Council don't even own or operate any facial recognition equipment at this point. Greater Manchester Police do, but they've only purchased it a month or so ago (after this story even unfolded) and they've only deployed it a couple of times so far and only at mass events. And Greater Manchester Police aren't the issuing body of the fixed penalty notice.
Conflating genuine human and computer errors with AI just makes us look like crazy people shouting at clouds.
You got a source on ai being used? This article doesn't mention it.
he said, “and then they had to go and find the guy’s camera evidence and that took a few days, and then eventually they realised that it wasn’t me”.
You think someone in a city 200 miles away just watched video footage and was like "Yes i know that guy, his name is Steve Jones" ???
No obviously the fuck not. They clearly use facial recognition to identify people and it picked the wrong guy.
AI isn't mentioned, facial recognition isn't mentioned. You're just making up stuff for FUD.
Most of these tickets are on the spot fines. They probably just spoke with the offender who gave his name.
so you think a human saw the footage and somehow knew who this guy was?
The footage is not used to identify the offender it is used in evidence by a court. It works like this, a litter enforcement officer sees you drop litter, they get it on video as evidence, and they approach you and issue a fine. You give them your name, that's how they get it. If you don't give your name, it's a criminal matter and they call the actual police.
well that is clearly not what happened here as the person fined was not the person filmed
so again I ask you, how do you think the fine wound upein the hands of a person that was not even there?
They took the offender's name and DOB, looked up the name on whatever database they prefer - probably the electoral register, and then sent the fine to that address WITHOUT checking the DOB matched.
There no need to insert face recognition or ai to explain an administrative error.
And for the record I'm not defending ai or face recognition. I think, probably like most people on lemmy, that we need to be vigilant against digital surveillance and the authoritarianism it could very easily enable.
However, this is almost certainly not AI or face recognition and railing against it is wasting energy that could be better spent elsewhere. Instead of contributing to a cause it's undermining it. It's FUD.
fair enough, thanks for your response
You’re just making shit up at this point.
It's nothing to do with AI. Someone just clicked the wrong name in the list and once the wheels are in motion, no one really has any incentive to stop it.
Guess we need a Brazil reboot. But instead of a fly, it's just AI making all the decisions
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