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[-] Lauchmelder@feddit.org 61 points 3 days ago

Why spend 30 seconds manually editing some text when you can spend 30 minutes clobbering together a pipeline involving awk, sed and jq

[-] freijon@lemmings.world 1 points 1 hour ago

Or 3 minutes clobbering a pipeline in nushell. Yes, I'm a nushell fanboy. I still over-automate everything, but with nushell it's actually fun.

[-] CheesyFox@lemmy.sdf.org 20 points 3 days ago

to be fair, out of those three, jq invokes the least existential dread in me

[-] Tangent5280@lemmy.world 4 points 3 days ago

The important part is to learn the limits of any tool. Nowadays I no longer use jq for any long or complicated tasking. Filter and view data? jq is fine. Anything more and I just cook up a python script.

[-] CheesyFox@lemmy.sdf.org 5 points 3 days ago

i'm more of a bash fan tbh. Ever since i started using linux, python started to irritate me

[-] Tangent5280@lemmy.world 4 points 3 days ago

How do you get complex data structures to work? I was alienated from scripting on zsh because I wanted something like a dict and realised I would have to write my own implementation. Is there a work around for that?

[-] tal@lemmy.today 6 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

I mean, there's a point in data structure complexity where it's useful to use Python.

But as to dicts, sure. You're looking for zsh's "associative array". Bash has it too.

zsh

$ typeset -A mydict
$ mydict[foo]=bar 
$ echo $mydict[foo]
bar
$

bash

$ typeset -A mydict
$ mydict[foo]=bar
$ echo ${mydict[foo]}
bar
$
[-] Tangent5280@lemmy.world 4 points 3 days ago

This will do nicely - I had several workflows where I'd hit an API and get a massive super nested JSON as output; I'd use jq to get the specific data from the whole thing and do a bunch of stuff on this filtered data. I pretty much resigned to using python because I'd have successively complicated requirements and looking up how to do each new thing was slowing me down massively.

[-] grrgyle@slrpnk.net 5 points 3 days ago

Or 60 minutes making it all work just with jq functions.

[-] Sxan@piefed.zip 66 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

Ok, þe quote misplacement is really confusing. It's

awk '{print $1}'

How can you be so close to right about þis and still be wrong?

How can you be so close to right about þis and still be wrong?

Honest answer: I’m sloppy on mobile

Better answer:

[-] hddsx@lemmy.ca 15 points 3 days ago

Who downvoted this? If you use awk, you know Sxan is using the correct syntax.

[-] teft@piefed.social 38 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

People have been downvoting him because he uses the letter thorn in his comments.

Some people will hate on anyone different.

[-] mexicancartel@lemmy.dbzer0.com 16 points 3 days ago

I recently noticed many people on lemmy have that thing rn. Why are they using it/is that autocorrecty thibgy or something? I didn't downvote them but i hate seeing this. And it's not just this letter

[-] Badabinski@kbin.earth 17 points 3 days ago

I'm not using it because it would be extremely inconvenient for me, but I think that the English language deserves to have the thorn returned to it.

[-] teft@piefed.social 13 points 3 days ago

The english alphabet needs to be completely redone. We should bring back thorn, eth, and wynn. We should also increase the vowels to actually represent the crazy amount of vowel sounds we have, dipthongs are dumb. 5 vowels is not sufficient for 15+ phonemes.

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[-] possiblylinux127@lemmy.zip 5 points 3 days ago

Please no

I have a hard enough time with English already

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[-] somerandomperson@lemmy.dbzer0.com 12 points 3 days ago
[-] Gutek8134@lemmy.world 12 points 3 days ago

It's going to be fun for etymologists 100 years from now

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[-] Doomsider@lemmy.world 6 points 2 days ago

My five thousand line bash script can do things that one hundred thousand lines of code could not do.

On the brightside, at least script monkeys can now look down on vibe coders.

[-] expr@programming.dev 10 points 3 days ago

cut -d ' ' -f1 master race

[-] lime@feddit.nu 22 points 3 days ago

my favorite awk snippet is !x[$0]++ which is like uniq but doesn't care about order. basically, it's equivalent to print_this_line = line_cache[$current_line] == 0; line_cache[$current_line] += 1; if $print_this_line then print $current_line end.

really useful for those long spammy logs.

[-] grrgyle@slrpnk.net 3 points 3 days ago

Oh that's very interesting. I usually do sort --unique or sort [...] | uniq if I need specific sorting logic (like by size on disk, etc).

[-] tal@lemmy.today 6 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

Looking at the above awk snippet, it'll retain order, though. So, sort will normally change the order. The awk snippet won't, just skip occurrences of a given line after the first. Depending upon the use case, that order retention could be pretty desireable.

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[-] tdawg@lemmy.world 19 points 3 days ago

In all my years I've only used more than that a handful of times. Just don't need it really

Now jq on the other hand...

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[-] CubitOom@infosec.pub 19 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

I've become a person that uses awk instead of grep, sed, cut, head, tail, cat, perl, or bashisms

[-] OpenStars@piefed.social 14 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

The stage of your degeneracy will involve learning PERL.

Edit: one-liners FTW! 😁🐪

[-] SkaveRat@discuss.tchncs.de 7 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

I could try to learn awk while also trying to debug the annoying problem I'm trying to solve, orrr.... cut and grep it is

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[-] grrgyle@slrpnk.net 6 points 3 days ago

Hey I throw a /^regexp.*/ {print $NF} in there sometimes!

...but yes, it's mostly print $1—but only because I mix up the parameters whenever I try to use cut!

[-] UltraBlack@lemmy.world 12 points 3 days ago

All my homies use dubious regex

[-] TheGingerNut 12 points 3 days ago

Honestly I think 90% of people would never use awk if there was a simple preinstalled command for "print the nth column"

[-] OpenStars@piefed.social 15 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)
[-] tal@lemmy.today 15 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

To be fair, a lot of the programs don't use a single character, have multiple spaces between fields, and cut doesn't collapse whitespace characters, so you probably want something more like tr -s " "|cut -d" " -f3 if you want behavior like awk's field-splitting.

$ iostat |grep ^nvme0n1
nvme0n1          29.03       131.52       535.59       730.72    2760247   11240665   15336056
$ iostat |grep ^nvme0n1|awk '{print $3}'
131.38
$ iostat |grep ^nvme0n1|tr -s " "|cut -d" " -f3
131.14
$
[-] TechLich@lemmy.world 9 points 3 days ago

I never understood why so many bash scripts pipe grep to awk when regex is one of its main strengths.

Like... Why

grep ^nvme0n1 | awk '{print $3}'

over just

awk '/^nvme0n1/ {print $3}'

[-] FooBarrington@lemmy.world 11 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

Because by the time I use awk again, I've completely forgotten that it supports this stuff, and the discoverability is horrendous.

Though I'd happily fix it if ShellCheck warned against this...

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[-] laurelraven@lemmy.zip 6 points 3 days ago

This is definitely somewhere that PowerShell shines, all of that is built in and really easy to use

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[-] cmgvd3lw@discuss.tchncs.de 10 points 3 days ago

You can even do sum with awk, you don't need excel

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[-] otacon239@lemmy.world 14 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

I used awk for the first time today to find all the MD5 sums that matched an old file I had to get rid of. Still have no idea what awk was needed for. 😅 All my programming skill is in Python. Linux syntax is a weak point of mine.

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[-] pelya@lemmy.world 10 points 3 days ago

Everything you do with awk, you can do with python, and it will also be readable.

[-] SkaveRat@discuss.tchncs.de 10 points 3 days ago

and perl, if you want it less readable

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[-] NaibofTabr@infosec.pub 6 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

Hmm, but you have to install and run the Python environment for that. AWK is typically present on *NIX systems already. Python seem like overkill for basic text processing tasks.

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[-] neuracnu 9 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

10 PRINT BUTTS

20 GOTO 10

[-] h4x0r@lemmy.dbzer0.com 10 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

I use gawk all the fucking time, if you spend a lot of time in a terminal or parse text often it is definitely worth the investment. It is a fantastic tool for both one liners and full scripts. The gawk manual is short enough to digest in a day or two.

https://www.gnu.org/software/gawk/manual/gawk.html

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[-] someguy3@lemmy.world 8 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)
[-] Ephera@lemmy.ml 20 points 3 days ago

It's a Linux command-line program (awk). It's pre-installed practically everywhere, it's very powerful for string processing, but it also uses a fairly complex syntax.

As a result, not many people know how to really make use of it, but awk '{print $1}' is something you encounter fairly quickly when you need to get the first word in each line.

[-] tofu@lemmy.nocturnal.garden 13 points 3 days ago
[-] ratel@mander.xyz 9 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

That's where they send you when the syntax drives you insane.

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[-] KSPAtlas@sopuli.xyz 2 points 2 days ago

I think the most I've done with awk is write a battery monitor applet with it, it involved parsing data from /sys and making choices based on it so I decided it was a decent choice

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