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[-] raspberriesareyummy@lemmy.world 5 points 1 hour ago

I honestly wish for the responsible people to die. A natural, painless death, but let it be quick. All of silicon valley is so evil it would be deemed unrealistic for a movie villain. They are selling out our freedoms and planet for what? They are already stinking rich.

[-] MetalMachine@feddit.nl 2 points 32 minutes ago

Wtf is this

[-] AniZaeger@lemmy.world 5 points 1 hour ago

Last I checked, unverified software didn't run the risk of making my phone fly itself into, and bring down, a skyscraper.

[-] Deflated0ne@lemmy.world 17 points 4 hours ago

Well. They will try anyway.

[-] ArmchairAce1944@discuss.online 2 points 2 hours ago

The phone I have now is half way paid off... I will say it. It is a Samsung S23. I didn't want it. It is just my other phone literally died from a single drop of water! I won't get into the details. But I want grapheneOS or the most private OS I can.

Right now I have been carrying my phone less than before. I used to take it even to grocery store trips, but I am just getting sick of the endless monitoring, even if I am a terminally online person. I literally cannot leave my apartment without being on camera since my landlord has all the corridors and exits/entrances on 24/7 surveillance.

I know that a phone can be tracked even when on a private OS. And the EU's rules on wanting a copy of every single message sent out from all messaging apps (including signal) will still affect non-EU people, too. It fucking sucks.

[-] MSids@lemmy.world 26 points 5 hours ago* (last edited 5 hours ago)

The Android ecosystem has been feeling more like an invasive chaotic advertisement machine the past few years. The play store is a cesspool, the weather app switch was poorly executed, Google Podcasts went to the graveyard, and Google pay getting shut down meant I had to switch back to vomits Venmo.

I still have Android gaming handhelds, but why wouldn't I just get an iPhone the next time I go to replace my phone? I can't believe I'm even saying that after being so die hard Android so for years.

[-] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 13 points 3 hours ago

why wouldn’t I just get an iPhone

Jumping from the frying pan straight into the fire.

[-] MSids@lemmy.world 2 points 46 minutes ago

I'm sure we all have a different perception, but my current view is that Google sells you a phone that they need to push ads and harvest vast amounts of data from you in order to make money on the phone, and Apple somehow needs to do this less.

Which company do you feel takes privacy more seriously? From what I understand, Google primarily makes their money from advertising.

[-] brendansimms@lemmy.world 6 points 2 hours ago

Exactly this. Just left iOS and got a pixel8a and flashed grapheneos on it. Apple is doing the same shit. GOS might be a pain in the ass sometimes but I feel much better knowing that Tim Apple isn't reading my texts and monitoring my bank apps so they can target me with ads.

[-] MSids@lemmy.world 2 points 51 minutes ago

I can't do Graphene because of work. I am an IT manager, and one of our guys did graphene and had a host of issues with the work apps. I really can't risk any issues.

[-] LodeMike@lemmy.today 10 points 3 hours ago

Yeah that's what I'm thinking too. Android's only advantage over the Apple ecosystem is being able to install apps. If that goes away there's no reason for me to stay.

[-] MrScottyTay@sh.itjust.works 1 points 2 hours ago

Google pay being shut down is news to me. I still pay contactless with Google pay and also for paying on websites...

[-] rumba@lemmy.zip 1 points 1 hour ago

https://www.androidcentral.com/apps-software/google-wallet

They migrated people over to the wallet. What was shut down was the app called "Google Pay"

[-] MSids@lemmy.world 1 points 57 minutes ago* (last edited 53 minutes ago)

Yes, sorry I should have clarified. The biggest loss was the person-to-person payments are now gone. I never understood why they had multiple apps that did the same thing. I seem to also remember a time where there was a Google pay and gpay app that lived side by side, so there were a total of three apps when there should have been one.

[-] cley_faye@lemmy.world 5 points 4 hours ago

They also managed to remove a feature from the fucking clock app. It's not much, but seriously, it's like a headless chicken running toward a cliff from the business end.

[-] Electricd@lemmybefree.net 1 points 5 hours ago

Google pay is being shut down?

Seems like Curve pay could be an alternative

[-] MSids@lemmy.world 1 points 53 minutes ago

Sorry I should have clarified. Google pay moved the payment features to Google wallet, but the biggest loss was the person-to-person payments are now gone. I never understood why they had multiple apps that did the same thing. I seem to also remember a time where there was a Google pay and gpay app that lived side by side, so there were a total of three apps when there should have been one.

[-] Electricd@lemmybefree.net 1 points 28 minutes ago

oh, I didn't know this

[-] jpeps@lemmy.world 2 points 4 hours ago

Google Pay is different in America, right? To me it's just contactless.

[-] Electricd@lemmybefree.net 1 points 3 hours ago

uh, not sure, I'm in Europe as well

I was thinking about NFC payments, yea

[-] Jhex@lemmy.world 17 points 5 hours ago
[-] Scrollone@feddit.it 4 points 5 hours ago

I hope they fail.

[-] Showroom7561@lemmy.ca 57 points 7 hours ago

Google says it's no different than checking IDs at the airport.

Fucker, if I own the airport, own the planes in the airport, am the only person using my own planes in my own airport, then nobody is asking for my ID.

Our phone, our software choice.

[-] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 4 points 3 hours ago* (last edited 3 hours ago)

Fucker, if I own the airport, own the planes in the airport, am the only person using my own planes in my own airport, then nobody is asking for my ID.

Okay, but what if Google owns the airport, the planes, and thinks it's entitled to own the people flying on them, to boot?

Our phone, our software choice.

You'll Own Nothing And Be Happy

[-] CrowAirbrush@lemmy.world 4 points 3 hours ago

There it is, haha.

Gave me a good chuckle as i'm with you here.

I have a similar sentiment when it comes to ads, my device, i pay for the internet and the device is inside my home. I'll decide if you get to show me ads.

[-] Fiery@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 1 hour ago

For ads at least the argument can be made that the content you consume is not yours and as such you should not be allowed to choose how it is monetized.

Google unilaterally deciding this is like Firefox or chrome adding ads to websites. Which is like no... They're the medium through which content is consumed.

[-] ArmchairAce1944@discuss.online 10 points 5 hours ago

But what if you owned nothing and were happy about it?

[-] Showroom7561@lemmy.ca 2 points 2 hours ago

The minimalist in me would love that. But while I am paying for this shit, it's mine to do what the hell I damn well please with it!

[-] kepix@lemmy.world 9 points 5 hours ago

so no modded apps, no emulation, no unauthorised chat apps. hopefully some root mod will make this irrelevant.

[-] foxfell@lemmy.ml 2 points 2 hours ago

I wouldn’t be so sure they will allow you to do it. First they implemented chrome restrictions for adblockers with manifest v3, then restricted AOSP sources. Looks like they are pretending to be Apple now.

[-] brendansimms@lemmy.world 1 points 2 hours ago

sudo apt-get remove google

[-] Electricd@lemmybefree.net 3 points 4 hours ago

Nice timing for chat control!

[-] winni@lemmy.world 3 points 4 hours ago

Lets build a Raspi phone

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