351
submitted 1 month ago by mas@jlai.lu to c/privacy@lemmy.ml

cross-posted from: https://jlai.lu/post/24787719

Starting next year, Google will begin to verify the identities of developers distributing their apps on Android devices, not just those who distribute via the Play Store.

top 50 comments
sorted by: hot top controversial new old
[-] hellfire103@lemmy.ca 83 points 1 month ago

Whoa, whoa, whoa! What the actual fuck, Google‽

I swear to Hephaestus, at this point I'm considering switching to UBPorts or Sailfish OS or something...

load more comments (7 replies)
[-] doctortofu@piefed.social 71 points 1 month ago

And, just like that, no more modded apps, no more custom stores, everything is tightly under control unless you install a custom ROM (and then it's no more banking apps,etc.). And it's all for our own good, after all, big brother Google knows what's best for us!

[-] utopiah@lemmy.ml 25 points 1 month ago

Some banking apps do work so it would be helpful not to spread that misconception.

[-] 2deck@lemmy.world 21 points 1 month ago

True. Also, most banks offer a web interface.

load more comments (1 replies)
load more comments (1 replies)
load more comments (4 replies)
[-] StarlightDust 65 points 1 month ago

While I won't tell people exactly what to search, I can guarantee that I can find malware first try on Google Play. Google Play Integrity is just as dodgy.

[-] floofloof@lemmy.ca 27 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

When a preventative measure very obviously won't solve the stated problem, that may not be what it's really there to solve. This is another of Google's anti-open-source moves designed to bring all Android devices entirely under their control and surveillance. It goes along with their bringinh all Android development in house and making it harder for third parties to make their own custom versions of Android (Graphene OS etc.). It also seems a little odd that this happens right when several countries are introducing requirements that users supply ID to visit websites.

[-] ScoffingLizard@lemmy.dbzer0.com 21 points 1 month ago

It is like the whole world becomes a psychopathic dictatorship overnight.

[-] ScoffingLizard@lemmy.dbzer0.com 51 points 1 month ago

My personal favorite is how they are doing it to prevent data theft and malware. All they have ever done is trick people out of data. All of their shitty apps that I can not remove from my Samsung phone ARE the malware I do not want. Fuck Google and every person that works there!

[-] eager_eagle@lemmy.world 47 points 1 month ago

shit like this really should be illegal

Custom ROM usage is gonna explode

[-] floofloof@lemmy.ca 37 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Probably why Google is also taking steps to make custom ROM development significantly more difficult. They evidently want to kill off all Android ecosystems except the ones they control and watch.

[-] smiletolerantly@awful.systems 37 points 1 month ago

My blood glucose monitor is not on the play store. So one dy next year I'll wake up and no longer be able to get that data...?

[-] Peter_Arbeitsloser@feddit.org 51 points 1 month ago

Sorry, your survival is incompatible with this version of Android.

[-] smiletolerantly@awful.systems 26 points 1 month ago

You are probably half-joking, but.... yeah.

I fucking hate this timeline. Actually, scratch that, that is way to placid and abstract.

I hate the assholes in charge. Fuck all of them. Luigi did nothing wrong.

load more comments (2 replies)
[-] trewq@piefed.social 37 points 1 month ago

setting up walled garden using security excuse. What's the next excuse?

[-] BlameTheAntifa@lemmy.world 12 points 1 month ago

We all know the reason.

load more comments (3 replies)
[-] mas@jlai.lu 37 points 1 month ago

To be clear, developers will have the same freedom to distribute their apps directly to users through sideloading or to use any app store they prefer.

They’re fucking with us

https://android-developers.googleblog.com/2025/08/elevating-android-security.html

[-] WalnutLum@lemmy.ml 19 points 1 month ago

iOS has had this same system for forever and nobody's ever (seriously) claimed you could sideload on there.

[-] floofloof@lemmy.ca 11 points 1 month ago

You're free to distribute your app wherever you like, but no one will be able to use it.

[-] aprehendedmerlin@lemmy.dbzer0.com 36 points 1 month ago
[-] Zerush@lemmy.ml 36 points 1 month ago

The terrible risk that you install apps which don't use google-tagmanager, googleanalytics and don't send logging and user data to Alphabet.

load more comments (1 replies)
[-] apfelwoiSchoppen@lemmy.world 33 points 1 month ago

Wish we lived in a world where open source was funded even at a single percentage of what this oligopoly pulls in each year. We'd have a viable alternative to the duopoly by now.

[-] SugarCatDestroyer@lemmy.world 10 points 1 month ago

The world is ruled by force and not by justice which does not exist, so soon we will most likely live in a dystopia.

load more comments (1 replies)
[-] tomyhaw@lemmy.world 29 points 1 month ago

Wow thanks for posting this. I read the whole thing but what I'm not getting is the fact that their started concern is apks "side loaded". This is aimed directly at the foss community as normal people already won't I stall anything outside of the play store. No non tech enthusiasts go straight to git hub ...

[-] monovergent@lemmy.ml 28 points 1 month ago

ELI5 if this will affect the use of F-Droid?

[-] TheCoralReefsAreDying69@lemmy.world 36 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

If you have the stock OS from the manufacturer, it will affect you. If you flash a custom ROM, it won't.

Edit: You can still use F-Droid regardless of which android you're running, but if you run stock you can only install the apps that have developers registered with google.

[-] user224@lemmy.sdf.org 11 points 1 month ago

I hope there will be at least some bypass using ADB like with older apps.

load more comments (1 replies)
[-] eager_eagle@lemmy.world 28 points 1 month ago

Apps that use dark patterns (aka almost everything in the play store) are more harmful than apps commonly flagged as malware.

load more comments (2 replies)
[-] toneburst@lemmy.4d2.org 27 points 1 month ago

It seems Google has been tightening control over Android in recent years and this looks like the next major step. Most people probably won’t care and the only realistic option for users who value software freedom and privacy is to wait until Linux or another free and open-source OS becomes a viable alternative. Overall a disappointing turn of events for the mobile computing space

[-] Zerush@lemmy.ml 13 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

FairPhone with /e/OS by default is the EU answer by the e-Foundation

load more comments (7 replies)
load more comments (1 replies)
[-] mas@jlai.lu 23 points 1 month ago

Think of it like an ID check at the airport, which confirms a traveler's identity but is separate from the security screening of their bags

😐

https://android-developers.googleblog.com/2025/08/elevating-android-security.html

load more comments (1 replies)
[-] ScoffingLizard@lemmy.dbzer0.com 21 points 1 month ago
load more comments (1 replies)
[-] ScoffingLizard@lemmy.dbzer0.com 20 points 1 month ago

For fucks sake, let's find out what Fairphone needs in the US to be used with other services and create a gofundme for them to get it. Goddamn I am beyond sick of Google's shit right now. It is constantly a nightmare to get around their bloatware and deal with the rest of the surveillance nightmare on a daily basis. Fairphone works on T Mobile but they suck!

load more comments (1 replies)
[-] utopiah@lemmy.ml 19 points 1 month ago

Time to fund /e/OS GraoheneOS etc but also bridges like Waydroid until we can use e.g. PmOS and avoid Android altogether.

load more comments (2 replies)
[-] thedruid@lemmy.world 16 points 1 month ago

Fuck off. This is my last android phone

load more comments (7 replies)
[-] EveryMuffinIsNowEncrypted 15 points 1 month ago
load more comments (2 replies)
[-] redti@lemmy.zip 15 points 1 month ago

Fuck you Google no one is gonna buy your bull shit anymore. Fork android!!!

[-] floofloof@lemmy.ca 14 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Fairphone 6 looks quite interesting and has a Google-free option. People are saying it's a bit buggy but they're fixing the bugs rapidly. And two-day battery life sounds pretty good.

https://shop.fairphone.com/the-fairphone-gen-6-e-operating-system

[-] ScoffingLizard@lemmy.dbzer0.com 11 points 1 month ago

I take anything at this point. Jfc. Google needs to fucking die already.

load more comments (2 replies)
[-] Balldowern@lemmy.zip 12 points 1 month ago

So I guess my next phone will be a Chinese phone. Even if it spies on me, I'll have the freedom to install whatever I want from anywhere.

The Chinese have a golden window of opportunity. Let's hope they don't mess this up.

[-] quick_snail@feddit.nl 11 points 1 month ago

Yawn. Guess more people will just have to not install gapps..

load more comments
view more: next ›
this post was submitted on 25 Aug 2025
351 points (100.0% liked)

Privacy

42212 readers
391 users here now

A place to discuss privacy and freedom in the digital world.

Privacy has become a very important issue in modern society, with companies and governments constantly abusing their power, more and more people are waking up to the importance of digital privacy.

In this community everyone is welcome to post links and discuss topics related to privacy.

Some Rules

Related communities

much thanks to @gary_host_laptop for the logo design :)

founded 5 years ago
MODERATORS