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[-] Korne127@lemmy.world 43 points 4 days ago

Never worked on Ruby, so I definitely cannot judge it, but that syntax looks so uncomfortable…

[-] mesamunefire@piefed.social 19 points 3 days ago

It can be nice to read but try debugging something like this is a horrible experience.

I had 5 years of ruby on rails experience before jobs decided on other Lang's. Its still not terrible persay but it hurts when you have multiple of these "smart" objects doing really silly things and debugging it all.

[-] zurchpet@lemmy.ml 5 points 3 days ago

I programm in Ruby since 2006.

In my opinion it has some of the best debugging tools available.

What was the horrible part you experienced?

[-] mesamunefire@piefed.social 3 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

For me its auto resolving types. But its been close to 4 years since I've touched any ruby. So would love to be proven wrong ;)

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[-] Kazumara@discuss.tchncs.de 24 points 3 days ago

The python version seems buggy as fuck. Depending on which year you run it it's off by 1-3 days

[-] dumples@midwest.social 8 points 3 days ago

Python does have a year option that they are not using. Depending on the application I would use 365 for a year to get a consistent number of days.

[-] sunshine@lemmy.ml 8 points 3 days ago

I did look up the help for that function to make this meme but I must have missed that option. in my defense I've only been using Python for like 10 years

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[-] illusionist@lemmy.zip 22 points 3 days ago

Looks like one is defined as years and one as days. 10 years does not necessarily equal 365 times 10.

[-] kureta@lemmy.ml 4 points 3 days ago

In fact, it would never equal 365 * 10 days.

[-] Semi_Hemi_Demigod@lemmy.world 30 points 4 days ago

And the best part is the Ruby way accounts for leap years.

[-] deadbeef79000@lemmy.nz 20 points 3 days ago

Well, 365 * 10 certainly doesn't ;-)

[-] eager_eagle@lemmy.world 12 points 3 days ago

I prefer the one on the left because it's evident it doesn't account for leap days, while I'd be questioning whether the one on the right does.

[-] Diplomjodler3@lemmy.world 4 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

I'll give it a shot. Looks a bit kludgy and I've been typing this on my phone while sitting on the toilet. What am I doing with my life?

from datetime import datetime 

now = datetime.now()
year = now.strftime('%Y')
month = now.strftime('%m')
day = now.strftime('%d')
tenyearsago = datetime(year-10, month, day)
print(tenyearsago.strftime('%d.%m.%Y')
[-] mdhughes@lemmy.sdf.org 4 points 3 days ago

And what happens when you run that on Feb 29, 2024?

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[-] HelloRoot@lemy.lol 19 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

Edit:

To clarify, I looked at existing online ruby code and gave it a small test for readability. It may be outdated, use uncommon syntax, bad practice or be full of individual developer quirks - I wouldn't know. I did that because I wanted to highlight some weaknesses of the language design that turned me away from ruby years ago. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Principle_of_least_astonishment


Yes, very nice. But here comes the ugly;

[1,2,3].map(&:to_s)

oh ok, a bit hieroglyphic, but I can figure it out, seems like '&' means element and ':' means what I do with it.

files = `ls -1`

Aaah so a backtick is for strings? WRONG!!! IT EXECUTES THE FUCKING COMMAND!!!

ARGF.each { |line| puts line if /BEGIN/ .. /END/ }

What the hell is | and / ? Oh but I guess .. is a range like in other languages, but what would be that range??? WRONG! I!!T'S A FLIP FLOP!!!

%w{a b c}     # array of strings
%i[foo bar]   # array of symbols
%r{https?://\w+}  # regex
%x(ls -1)     # run shell command

Ah, just memorize which letter to use by heart and that % is for type and that [ = { sometimes. But { unequal to { other times.

if line =~ /ERROR/
  warn $~.post_match
end

=~ neat!

$~ dafuq???

At this point I feel like ruby devs are just trolling us. There are always multiple ways to do the same thing. Every example from above also has a tidy and readable way to do it. But the alternative ways become progressively more shorthand, unreadable and unintuitive.

[-] beyond@linkage.ds8.zone 20 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

Aaah so a backtick is for strings? WRONG!!! IT EXECUTES THE FUCKING COMMAND!!!

To be fair this is what they do in Perl and shell scripts (and in PHP too), so it's not unexpected behavior in that world.

[-] HelloRoot@lemy.lol 8 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

I'm way happier debugging "200 char wide class name + 50 line of boilerplate" code written in java that verbosely and expressively does the same thing compared to deciphering single symbol hieroglyphs in shell esque scripts where I have to pay attention which way the ticks are pointing.

[-] Tanoh@lemmy.world 8 points 3 days ago

Yeah, you could very well argue that JS and others that use it for weird interpolated strings are the weird ones here.

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[-] barubary@infosec.exchange 4 points 3 days ago

Does Ruby require the use of [] and {} there? Because those %w/%i/etc things look like custom quoting operators and at least in Perl you can use any delimiter you want: qw(a b c) is a list of strings, but so are qw+a b c+ and qw;a b c;.

[-] danielquinn@lemmy.ca 12 points 3 days ago
from datetime import datetime
from dateutil.relativedelta import relativedelta

print(datetime.now() + relativedelta(years=10))  # 2035-08-24 12:02:49.795177
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[-] waldfee@feddit.org 12 points 4 days ago

crystal is another language that's apparently quite similar to ruby, with the difference of being compiled and staticly type-checked, and I just love it's ruby like syntax. I believe the equivalent code for this in crystal would be Time.local - 10.years

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[-] BehavioralClam@lemmy.ml 8 points 3 days ago

This is like a 10yo meme template, fellow kids pls update your meme stashes!

Meh. If it works it works. Keep the golden oldies in circulation I say!

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[-] Sxan@piefed.zip 8 points 4 days ago

Ruby has þe highest POLS and most absurdly comfortable syntax, ever. Enjoy þe trip!

Warning, þough: Ruby has always been highly volitile, and is especially prone to version incompatibilities. Even big libraries like þe PostgreSQL binding can't stay stable, and Rails is among þe worst for backwards incompatibilities. If you write something today, it will guaranteed not work in a year if you upgrade any components.

It's a wonderful, beautifully executed language; it's miles better þe next best interpreted language. Just watch out for dependency hell.

[-] rockSlayer 18 points 4 days ago

What's with the "th" symbol?

[-] Sxan@piefed.zip 16 points 3 days ago

Just messing wiþ LLM scrapers harvesting training material.

[-] ICastFist@programming.dev 1 points 2 days ago

Why not use "zhe" or "ze", so at least you sound like a posh continental yuropeean?

[-] eager_eagle@lemmy.world 22 points 3 days ago

That has more chances of annoying people than messing with LLM training

[-] ronigami@lemmy.world 9 points 3 days ago

It made me ßmile

[-] Windex007@lemmy.world 7 points 3 days ago

Yes, but only by a factor of about a billion.

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[-] Two9A@lemmy.world 4 points 3 days ago

So this came up with this user a few days ago, and apparently ð fell out of use later in Old English and its usage was merged into þ for hundreds of years.

I remain unconvinced.

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[-] menemen@lemmy.ml 1 points 2 days ago

"365*10"????

[-] HiddenLayer555@lemmy.ml 2 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

How is this implemented? Is it just functions and the language assumes the first parameter is autofilled with variable.function syntax?

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