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[-] Bigfishbest@lemmy.world 105 points 3 months ago

It'll be especially dangerous since they're gonna have slashed tires so often.

[-] Korhaka@sopuli.xyz 19 points 3 months ago

I can't wait to see one get stuck trying to fit past my house. I can assure you my brick wall is cheaper to stack back up than your bodywork is to replace.

[-] GissaMittJobb@lemmy.ml 8 points 3 months ago

A lentil placed under the cap is a more efficient method of disarmament.

[-] BakerBagel@midwest.social 7 points 3 months ago

Depends on the end goal. Those 18" tires on most trucks aren't cheap, especially if you have to swap one out every few months

[-] GissaMittJobb@lemmy.ml 5 points 3 months ago

I suppose. It takes bringing a knife though, which is less convenient than a lentil

[-] BakerBagel@midwest.social 12 points 3 months ago

I always have a pocket knife on me. Why are you carrying around beans?

[-] GissaMittJobb@lemmy.ml 6 points 3 months ago

To be clear, I have not disarmed any vehicles, so I don't carry any lentils

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[-] mrgoosmoos@lemmy.ca 5 points 3 months ago

we can only hope

[-] D_C@sh.itjust.works 3 points 3 months ago

Maybe burning the trucks will help with the tyre thing? It's a long shot but I think it should be tried...

[-] Blackmist@feddit.uk 98 points 3 months ago
[-] gravitas_deficiency@sh.itjust.works 46 points 3 months ago

lol and thatโ€™s one of the smaller truck models youโ€™ll see in the states ๐Ÿซ 

[-] BlackVenom@lemmy.world 31 points 3 months ago

Good luck dealing with the shitheads who buy these. They'll whine and cry about not having space, x, y, z... I am surprised none of the EU brands have a popular small truck. Closest thing appeared to be Ford Rangers.

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[-] CaptPretentious@lemmy.world 3 points 3 months ago

Yep a real full size truck you could probably take that car and put it in it its bed. With room to spare.

[-] Hirom@beehaw.org 6 points 3 months ago

Yes, no tanks.

[-] WolfmanEightySix@piefed.social 95 points 3 months ago

Why have they caved? These vehicles arenโ€™t appropriate here.

[-] kautau@lemmy.world 75 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

As someone from the US, they're mostly not appropriate here either. They rarely get used for anything except driving to/from work. They are more like massive uneconomical vans with four luxury seats rather than work trucks (again, when they nearly always have a driver and no passengers).

That being said, my fiancรฉ lives in the Philippines (Specifically in Manila, the most densely populated city on the planet), and every time I visit it's clear the same stupid oversized trucks are everywhere and I doubt anywhere in the EU will be different.

Just like requiring seatbelts to be a rule, you need to put rules in place so the idiots don't destroy everything, that's pretty much advanced modern society.

[-] stormeuh@lemmy.world 25 points 3 months ago

Yeah there are a fuckton of "real men" in Europe, influenced by the firehose of toxic culture coming from the US. I agree 100%, governments need to prevent selfish idiots from endangering others with their bad choices.

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[-] CPMSP@midwest.social 10 points 3 months ago

Pavement princesses.

[-] WanderingThoughts@europe.pub 33 points 3 months ago

They probably figured that they can sell trucks but nobody is obligated to buy them. The taxes are on weight and prices for fuel are not compatible with gas guzzlers. The really heavy ones need a different driving license. Also in places the tax exemption for cargo didn't work anymore.

[-] SmilingSolaris@lemmy.world 16 points 3 months ago

Man I sure do love when people with money can pay to inconvenience everyone else

[-] IndustryStandard@lemmy.world 6 points 3 months ago

EU works for lobbies. Not Europeans.

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[-] SW42@lemmy.world 70 points 3 months ago

These vehicles are not really made for European infrastructure. Especially in older Cities or towns they are sometimes wider than the road itself. I guess it would be fine if people would have to have a C-Class license.

[-] painteddoggie@lemmy.world 35 points 3 months ago

But have you considered bulldozing all the historic architecture to accommodate American manufacturers' god given right to sell product?

[-] SW42@lemmy.world 14 points 3 months ago
[-] towerful@programming.dev 11 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

Knowing what lurks underneath old cities the demand for archeologist would absolutely skyrocket.
Great job creation prospects.
And then we get to queue in cars to get coffee. So convenient.
It's just wins all around

[-] Successful_Try543@feddit.org 67 points 3 months ago

RAM pick ups are not type-approved to be sold on the EU market, but are imported under IVA, ostensibly to be sold on a one-off or โ€˜individualโ€™ basis. Already, the IVA rule, intended for niche uses, is being roundly abused by German and Dutch Type Approval entities, which approve 69% and 30% of RAMs respectively, said T&E. Imports of three other pick-up trucks โ€“ the Ford F-150, the Chevrolet Silverado and the GMC Sierra 1500 โ€“ have skyrocketed from 157 in 2019 to approx 1,700 in 2024 [1].

The EU Commissionโ€™s proposals to close the IVA loophole tabled in early July are now at risk from an EU-US trade pact which states that the EU and US โ€œintend to accept and provide mutual recognition to each otherโ€™s standardsโ€ for cars.

[-] Pechente@feddit.org 31 points 3 months ago

And to compete our domestic car industries will probably start making similar models :/

[-] Successful_Try543@feddit.org 16 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

As these vehicles aren't officially sold in EU by their brands, they don't enter the pollution calculation of their average fleet. I doubt that they will produce even more similar models adapted to and for the EU market.

[-] zaphod@sopuli.xyz 4 points 3 months ago

Already happened, VW has the Amarok. The first generation was apparently too small to be sold successfully in the USA and they shifted it to EU. Mercedes-Benz had the X-Class, I think it was a similar story.

[-] Zier@fedia.io 42 points 3 months ago

Solicit your vehicle taxing authorities to raise taxes on these huge vehicles so it's cost prohibitive.

[-] then_three_more@lemmy.world 19 points 3 months ago

Hopefully insurance will be prohibitively expensive as well where there so dangerous.

[-] Jozav@lemmy.world 7 points 3 months ago

In the netherlands road tax is paid depending on the weight of the vehicle (and some more factors). Also, a standard drivers license B is for cars with maximum weight 3500kg (unladen weight plus payload).

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[-] dumnezero@piefed.social 29 points 3 months ago

what in the flying fuck

[-] red@sopuli.xyz 28 points 3 months ago

Why would any auto manufacturer make cars under European safety standards any more if this goes through?

[-] Tarnport@mastodon.green 27 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

@Sunshine make them undrivable.

We are already in a situation where they have to stop in the village centers to let people move out of the way for the extra wide load. I do not move. I don't think anyone should

[-] sudoku@programming.dev 21 points 3 months ago

In Europe those over the top insane-looking american "trucks" need heavy goods vehicle license, plus even if it's light enough for the regular license, it's still classified as a cargo vehicle which is subject for more tax (either yearly tax or sometimes even road usage tax). People can already buy new "trucks" (even Volkswagen makes one) and import old ones from the US for a long time, but extra tax is not something most want to pay.

[-] Successful_Try543@feddit.org 8 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

The 'empty' weight of a Ford F-350 is a bit above 3 tons, so in theory, one could register those with a maximum total mass of 3499 kg and drive them with a regular 'car' class B drivers licence.
The smaller F-150 is totally in the range of what can be driven with a class B drivers licence without tricks.

[-] transfluxus@leminal.space 9 points 3 months ago

Up to member states means they probably won't do it, since it's a matter of national politics and popularity...

[-] rmuk@feddit.uk 8 points 3 months ago

So as I understand this - which seems to be totally at odds with everyone else commenting - this will actually make it harder for people to drive these things on the road in the EU. Currently you can import those things without them being subject to EU categorisation and safety requirements if it's a one off (to quote Not Stanley, "I ain't no serial killer! I killed a bunch of people but they were all one-offs!") but now these will be categorised and controlled the same as EU vehicles instead, and subject to the same standards for safety, emissions, licensing etc. It's worth keeping in mind that even in the US these aren't categorised as cars, so why would they be in the EU? So someone with a car license (normally limited to 3.5T GLW) couldn't drive one, even if they pinky-swore that they wouldn't fully load it as is the case at the moment.

[-] phx@lemmy.ca 5 points 3 months ago

The EU has different licenses for cars and trucks? Cool!

I've always found it weird that a standard license here lets you drive anything from a teeny tiny SmartCar to an F350 pulling a massive palace-in-wheels, or a near bus-sized motorhome (provided it doesn't have air brakes and is under 4600kg).

[-] calcopiritus@lemmy.world 7 points 3 months ago

Wait. Are you telling me that the American "if you can parallel park, here's your driver license" license allows you to legally drive trucks and other heavy machinery?

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[-] heyWhatsay@slrpnk.net 5 points 3 months ago

The real money is gonna be made from exporting truck nuts.

[-] TheObviousSolution@lemmy.ca 5 points 3 months ago

I cannot think of anything else the EU could have done to damage it's own brand image as this has. It's clear the EU has it's own oligarch problem.

[-] omarthemediocre@lemmy.zip 4 points 3 months ago

Why would anyone in the EU buy them? They are expensive, maintanance nightmare and in most cities to big to drive comfortably. The only reason I can think of is that you need to compensate for a small dick.

[-] TankovayaDiviziya@lemmy.world 4 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

Ibrahimovich.jpg:

I give you defense protection

In return, you give me your lives to American pickup trucks.

This is going to be unpopular opinion, but the EU caving in so quickly to one-sided trade deal, is in return for American protection and arms contracts. With Cheetos in chief in charge, this is the Munich Agreement of our time to bide time, while European arms production gears up. Let's face it, the EU is too weak and reliant to achieve strategic autonomy at the moment, if ever. Several EU members don't even want to increase military spending, because they very well know that this will take away precious funding away from coveted welfare investment, and that will be unpopular for electorates.

[-] TheMightyCat@ani.social 11 points 3 months ago

Letโ€™s face it, the EU is too weak and reliant to achieve strategic autonomy at the moment.

Many people say this but it doesn't really made sense to me, if Russia can't even win against Ukraine how would they ever fight against the EU, our army is both larger and much better equipped then Ukraine.

And it doesn't look like there is a ceasfire going to be soon so Ukraine will keep fighting which means Russia doesn't even have the troops outside Ukraine to invade the EU, and if they somehow did then we would reach Moscow by next month.

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