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WASHINGTON (AP) — Empathy is usually regarded as a virtue, a key to human decency and kindness. And yet, with increasing momentum, voices on the Christian right are preaching that it has become a vice.

For them, empathy is a cudgel for the left: It can manipulate caring people into accepting all manner of sins according to a conservative Christian perspective, including abortion access, LGBTQ+ rights, illegal immigration and certain views on social and racial justice.

“Empathy becomes toxic when it encourages you to affirm sin, validate lies or support destructive policies,” said Allie Beth Stuckey, author of “Toxic Empathy: How Progressives Exploit Christian Compassion.”

Stuckey, host of the popular podcast “Relatable,” is one of two evangelicals who published books within the past year making Christian arguments against some forms of empathy.

The other is Joe Rigney, a professor and pastor who wrote “The Sin of Empathy: Compassion and its Counterfeits.” It was published by Canon Press, an affiliate of Rigney’s conservative denomination, which counts Defense Secretary Pete Hegseth among its members.

These anti-empathy arguments gained traction in the early months of President Donald Trump’s second term, with his flurry of executive orders that critics denounced as lacking empathy.

As foreign aid stopped and more deportations began, Trump’s then-adviser Elon Musk told podcaster Joe Rogan: “The fundamental weakness of Western civilization is empathy.”

Even Vice President JD Vance, a Catholic convert, framed the idea in his own religious terms, invoking the concept of ordo amoris, or order of love. Within concentric circles of importance, he argued the immediate family comes first and the wider world last — an interpretation that then-Pope Francis rejected.

While their anti-empathy arguments have differences, Stuckey and Rigney have audiences that are firmly among Trump’s Christian base.

“Could someone use my arguments to justify callous indifference to human suffering? Of course,” Rigney said, countering that he still supports measured Christ-like compassion. “I think I’ve put enough qualifications.”

Historian Susan Lanzoni traced a century of empathy’s uses and definitions in her 2018 book “Empathy: A History.” Though it’s had its critics, she has never seen the aspirational term so derided as it is now.

It’s been particularly jarring to watch Christians take down empathy, said Lanzoni, a graduate of Harvard Divinity School.

“That’s the whole message of Jesus, right?”

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[-] RampantParanoia2365@lemmy.world 2 points 38 minutes ago
[-] AcidiclyBasicGlitch@sh.itjust.works 14 points 3 hours ago* (last edited 3 hours ago)

Empathy is a sin.

Exposing pedophiles is a sin.

Protecting children is a sin.

Healthcare for Gaza is a sin.

Healthcare for Americans is a sin.

Military force against the American people is God's will.

Not sure what kinda fucked up holy war people still supporting this shit believe they're fighting, but it's definitely not a Christian one and you're commiting blasphemy by claiming it is.

[-] TheHotze@lemmy.world 10 points 3 hours ago* (last edited 3 hours ago)

Its the opposite of a sin. When Jesus sumed up the law and the prophets into two commandments, the one dealing with other people was basically be empathetic.

" So in everything, do to others what you would have them do to you, for this sums up the Law and the Prophets." Matthew 7:12 NIV.

[-] A7thStone@lemmy.world 4 points 3 hours ago

Of course they prefer the term sympathy. That let's them feel like they are looking down in pity at a lesser.

[-] VerilyFemme 13 points 4 hours ago

“Blessed are the poor in spirit, for theirs is the kingdom of heaven.
“Blessed are those who mourn, for they shall be comforted.
“Blessed are the gentle, for they shall inherit the earth.
“Blessed are those who hunger and thirst for righteousness, for they shall be satisfied.
“Blessed are the merciful, for they shall receive mercy.
“Blessed are the pure in heart, for they shall see God.
“Blessed are the peacemakers, for they shall be called sons of God.
Blessed are those who have been persecuted for the sake of righteousness, for theirs is the kingdom of heaven.
“Blessed are you when people insult you and persecute you, and falsely say all kinds of evil against you because of Me.
Rejoice and be glad, for your reward in heaven is great; for in the same way they persecuted the prophets who were before you.

[-] moseschrute@lemmy.ml 3 points 3 hours ago* (last edited 3 hours ago)

Shhhhh we don’t talk about that part of the bible

[-] BlameTheAntifa@lemmy.world 32 points 20 hours ago* (last edited 20 hours ago)

Matthew 23 is about these kinds of people. Recommended reading, even for fellow atheists. Keep in mind that the scribes and pharisees that Jesus calls out over and over again were the conservative leaders of his time - “pastors and politicians” - behaving just as ours do today.

[-] phutatorius@lemmy.zip 9 points 7 hours ago

He generally referred to them as "liars, Pharisees, hypocrites."

[-] boolean_sledgehammer@lemmy.world 26 points 21 hours ago

Conservative christian culture makes people objectively worse.

[-] elbiter@lemmy.world 12 points 20 hours ago

They're not actual Christians.

[-] Darleys_Brew@lemmy.ml 3 points 5 hours ago

They call themselves that though.

[-] cerebralhawks@lemmy.dbzer0.com 6 points 4 hours ago

I call myself rich, but if I don't go to work I don't get paid, and if I don't get paid I can't pay the rent... and out the door I ~~went~~ go.

People can call themselves Christians, but unless they actually follow the teachings of Christ, it doesn't mean anything.

[-] nectar45@lemmy.zip 13 points 20 hours ago

"Empathy is a sin" mfs when I kill them

[-] rumba@lemmy.zip 16 points 22 hours ago

Is empathy a sin? Some ~~conservative Christians~~ narssists argue it can be

Mostly a venn diagram containing only one circle.

[-] MehBlah@lemmy.world 8 points 20 hours ago

This is at the heart of it. They are mostly narcissist.

[-] Showroom7561@lemmy.ca 49 points 1 day ago

Conservative Christians talking about the "sins" of others.

THEY SUPPORT A CHILD RAPIST WHO IS AN ADULTERER. 🤷‍♂️

[-] cerebralhawks@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 4 hours ago

The true Christian response would be that Trump will be judged in the afterlife but that they still support what he's doing in government... which is making things harder for people with darker skin and/or who are LGBTQ+. "The enemy of my enemy is my friend" and all that.

Ask them if they would allow their preteen daughter to stay the night with Trump and you'll see where their feelings truly lie. Many of them would! Many of them would happily traffick their child to him hoping that she might be his fourth wife and their family would benefit. A few would tell you that the accusations against him are inventions of the liberals, but those people are never mentally sound.

[-] papertowels@mander.xyz 11 points 1 day ago

Something something splinter log in eye something

[-] spaghettiwestern@lemmy.world 7 points 20 hours ago

"Betteridge's law of headlines is an adage that states: "Any headline that ends in a question mark can be answered by the word no."

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Betteridge%27s_law_of_headlines

[-] CitizenKong@lemmy.world 34 points 1 day ago

Fun historical fact: Adolf Hitler was not actually an atheist as is often commonly believed. He was actually opposed to atheism and tried to establish a German "Reich Church" that would teach Christianity aligned with Nazi propaganda. Sound familiar?

[-] phutatorius@lemmy.zip 6 points 7 hours ago

Hitler was brought up Catholic.

The Church never excommunicated him.

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[-] abbiistabbii 38 points 1 day ago

Right wing Christians want empathy to be a sin because it goes against their politics.

[-] aceshigh@lemmy.world 6 points 1 day ago

Empathy is a sin because it goes against their Christian beliefs. They’re being persecuted.

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[-] mcv@lemmy.zip 36 points 1 day ago

As a Christian, I'm utterly disgusted by how these people are perverting my religion that's supposed to be all about love for others. For your enemy, even.

Feed the poor, shelter the homeless, heal the sick, visit the imprisoned and welcome the foreigner. That's how we will be judged, according to Matthew 25.

The pervert the words of Jesus. First the Prosperity Gospel, and now this.

[-] Cargon@lemmy.ml 9 points 1 day ago

What does your religion say should be done with these usurpers and blasphemers?

[-] mcv@lemmy.zip 6 points 1 day ago

Love them? But also counter their false teachings. Loving the people they mislead or hurt, and save them from harm.

[-] cerebralhawks@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 4 hours ago

"Love the sinner, hate the sin" is the boilerplate answer, and fundamentally it's correct, but also never forget that Jesus himself kicked over tables and brandished a whip at these people.

Like, you always think of Jesus as this soft-spoken, kind-hearted individual who always tried to help people. But when he came back to the temple and saw people were using it to try to peddle their wares under the guise and protection of religion, he called that out and threatened violence. And he was right to.

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[-] Newsteinleo@midwest.social 12 points 1 day ago

My theory is that this is a play by the right to try an undermine anecdotal evidence and accounts used to persuade people. About a decade ago, the left tried to use data driven arguments while the right use anecdotal evidence, and studies have shown anecdotal evidence to be more persuasive. Now, the left has learned from its mistakes and is using anecdotal evidence and accounts, and it is proving to be effective in undermining the right.

Instead of pointing out the hypocrisy of Christians saying empathy is bad, because it doesn’t work, the left should lean into this narrative. Empathy is a way people will exploit you, data driven studies are the only thing you can rely on. Then fallow that up with explaining how to know if you can trust a data source.

If the left and use the rights own strategy against them instead of trying to fight against the strategy, it will be much more effective. They may be able to start realizing that global warming is real, and racism still exist in this country.

[-] 18107@aussie.zone 9 points 1 day ago

The common factor found in all Nazis was a lack of empathy. Without empathy, we are capable of unimaginable cruelty.

[-] reksas@sopuli.xyz 13 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

now this is actual heresy

[-] heyWhatsay@slrpnk.net 13 points 1 day ago

Key ingredient if you want fascism via christian nationalism. Oh, those gas chambers? Jesus blessed them!

[-] dhork@lemmy.world 156 points 1 day ago

If this lot encountered Jesus here on earth today, they would deport him

[-] Diplomjodler3@lemmy.world 133 points 1 day ago

They're the same people that crucified him in the first place.

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[-] DancingBear@midwest.social 5 points 1 day ago

I don’t think we can tolerate these ass hats anymore. I no longer have empathy for them.

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[-] Azal@pawb.social 33 points 1 day ago

I had a really good preacher growing up. Probably a big part of why I don't hate all religion.

He spoke of compassion, of the teachings of the bible as he felt was to be a good person. Viewed being Christian as being like Christ as much as much as one was possible, but people fail to live up to it, that's our failings, but to believe is to still keep striving for that perfection.

2001 happened, and the hatred to Muslims came. Then one day, the preacher is talking about an extremist, one that is hated by the government, outspoken to the government, that people hated and reviled. A man from the middle east. "That is our lord and savior." You could have heard a pin drop in that room when everyone was figuring he was talking about a Muslim radical instead of Jesus. It was a call against the fear mongering, to love our neighbors even if we don't believe the same, to not assume the worst about people. He described how we usually get Jesus wrong in looks, that he'd be one of those we'd be persecuting post 9/11 America because of his looks, showing a magazine cover where a group of anthropologists reconstructed what Jesus likely looked like based on what they knew of the people of that region of that time, had the magazine on display in the hall where people gathered after worship.

It wasn't a year later that he was removed from being the preacher of that church. Probably a big part of why I'm not a believer anymore.

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[-] Aceticon@lemmy.dbzer0.com 8 points 1 day ago

If Christ lived today, these people would be in line, with hammers in their hands, to nail him to a cross.

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