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submitted 15 hours ago by MicroWave@lemmy.world to c/politics@lemmy.world

Gavin Newsom knows the popular image of him is of a smooth talker with slicked-back hair, the wealthy liberal who co-owns a vineyard.

He knows, regarding the presidential ambitions he’s hardly hiding, that the biggest question he would face out of the gate is whether he could sell Americans on wanting California to represent their future rather than seeing it as the place where the wackiest liberal dreams go to run wild.

The redistricting fight that Newsom and the state legislature are launching Monday could, he and his inner circle believe, give him all the rebuttals he needs.

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[-] AlecSadler 7 points 5 hours ago

He's a POS, but I'll take any opposition to the GOP right now. We can deal with the remnants later, but we need to be able to even get there.

[-] ileftreddit@piefed.social 56 points 12 hours ago* (last edited 12 hours ago)

He’s definitely gunning for the top job, but he is hardly a progressive, sadly

Edit: at least he is a fighter, something the dems have been sorely lacking

[-] zbyte64@awful.systems 33 points 12 hours ago

He fights for a certain set of billionaires who happen to be less destructive than the other set of billionaires. But don't be fooled into thinking he is going to fight for anyone less privileged.

[-] PacketPilot@lemmy.world 13 points 9 hours ago

Well to be fair, he did sign into law a $20 minimum wage and labor standards for the fast food industry. That's not nothing.

[-] zbyte64@awful.systems 7 points 8 hours ago* (last edited 8 hours ago)

He didn't fight for that law though, we dragged him to do the right thing, and we sacrificed carve outs to get it signed.

[-] blakemiller@lemmy.world 3 points 7 hours ago
[-] ayyy@sh.itjust.works 1 points 5 hours ago

He beats me because he wants me to be better.

[-] frostedtrailblazer@lemmy.zip 5 points 8 hours ago

I’ve agreed a lot with Newsom over the years and I’ve disagreed with him just as much. At this moment, I would say he’s got the right intentions to do good here. He would not be my personal primary choice, but he would at least would be willing to press states for better standards and would help stand against corruption. In California he’s at least pushing for the state to use more electric vehicles.

[-] RampantParanoia2365@lemmy.world 2 points 2 hours ago

If he were to eliminate or seriously curb gerrymandering, I'd be incredibly grateful.

[-] PacketPilot@lemmy.world 4 points 7 hours ago

He's definitely not my first choice either, but I like his brutal mockery of Trump and his willingness to fight dirty. I think that's sorely needed right now.

[-] oxysis 15 points 12 hours ago

He’s not a progressive at all, he wants to throw my people (trans folx) under the bus as hard as republicunts do

[-] FlexibleToast@lemmy.world 18 points 10 hours ago

What's the point of folx? Folks was already non gendered.

[-] Revan343@lemmy.ca 2 points 7 hours ago

Trans Linux (or Unix) users, duh

[-] MedicPigBabySaver@lemmy.world 2 points 9 hours ago

Yeah, that's a hard no. Truly stupid.

[-] FlexibleToast@lemmy.world 6 points 9 hours ago

I want to know the reasoning before I say it is stupid. It definitely seems that way.

[-] MedicPigBabySaver@lemmy.world 2 points 9 hours ago

Folks is perfectly fine, neutral and inclusive. Even "Latinx" can be excused due to the masculine/feminine language tribute.

[-] FlexibleToast@lemmy.world 4 points 8 hours ago

Maybe, even probably. But without hearing their reasoning I don't know what they're trying to accomplish. Maybe it's something else entirely that we haven't considered.

[-] MedicPigBabySaver@lemmy.world 2 points 8 hours ago

Irrelevant. Stupid, period.

[-] frostedtrailblazer@lemmy.zip 3 points 8 hours ago* (last edited 8 hours ago)

I think he’s left-of-center leaning, but postures in a way that is throwing trans people under the bus to win votes from bigots that may lean left, center, or right. Do I think he personally would push for any trans sports ban? Not really, but he is playing it up to win over the voters that for some reason are treating trans people in sports as a hardline issue they are against.

It’s one of several reasons I wouldn’t want him specifically to win the 2028 primary; since I would like to believe our country still has enough kind people that we don’t need to step on each other for us to all get ahead.

[-] oxysis 4 points 8 hours ago* (last edited 7 hours ago)

If he wants to appeal to fascists it’s gonna end the same way it has before. He’s gonna lose because why would fascists vote for the fascist-lite when a full fledged fascist is right there. All he does in the end is make it more acceptable to strip my people of rights.

Maybe something on the level or worse than the pandemic happens and he can get in on that. But he still did major harm to my people, harm that cannot be undone fully for decades if not longer.

Either way he is playing with a dangerous ideology that will get trans people killed. Maybe not state sponsored but remember what happened with Nex Benedict, when this toxic hateful ideology becomes normalized it encourages violence.

[-] TropicalDingdong@lemmy.world 22 points 14 hours ago

THANK YOU FOR YOUR ATTENTION TO THIS MATTER!!!

[-] zbyte64@awful.systems 4 points 12 hours ago* (last edited 11 hours ago)

Can't wait for him to ~~loose~~lose like Kamala did. Guy probably still supports giving Israel bombs to continue their genocide. Misinformed people will always learn the wrong lessons from elections.

[-] III@lemmy.world 8 points 10 hours ago

Misinformed people will always learn the wrong lessons from elections.

Hey Pot... Kettle calling.

[-] zbyte64@awful.systems 4 points 8 hours ago

If I'm misinformed about his support of Israel I would welcome the news. But what I have seen is him making it harder for college protesters in regards to this issue: https://www.politico.com/news/2024/09/28/gavin-newsom-gaza-protests-universities-00181548

[-] DadVolante@sh.itjust.works 11 points 11 hours ago

Lose.

Loose is when something is loosened.

[-] hddsx@lemmy.ca 9 points 14 hours ago* (last edited 14 hours ago)

Still wouldn’t vote for him

[-] Brkdncr@lemmy.world 65 points 14 hours ago

I've vote against him in a primary, but will vote for him if the other option is whatever the GOP is doing today.

[-] marine_mustang@sh.itjust.works 31 points 13 hours ago

Yep. Voting in the primary AND general elections, every other year, is the bare minimum for democratic participation. Not once every four years.

[-] hddsx@lemmy.ca 2 points 11 hours ago

No? Vote in your local elections too goddammit

[-] hddsx@lemmy.ca 5 points 11 hours ago

Man, I’d vote Whitmer over Newsom and I /hate/ Whitmer. Whitmer is good at being a “counter”. She is good at voicing up and objecting to Donald Trump. That’s it. She’s otherwise not particularly outstanding. When Biden was elected and she had to stand on her own, her accomplishments were lackluster at best. Newsom strikes me as more of the same, but worse. All talk, but can’t walk the walk.

/Harris/ with as many faults as she has, is a better choice than both of them combined and she wasn’t particularly stellar either.

I’d rather have Tlaib, AOC, Warren (yeah she’ll be like 80 so probably won’t make it out of the primary). If Illinois didn’t have a record of corrupt governors, maybe Pritzker? Warnock might be a better choice.

Seriously, fuck Newsom dude. That guy doesn’t stand for anything

[-] cabron_offsets@lemmy.world 9 points 11 hours ago

I’d vote for a dead D over any R. 100% of the time.

[-] hddsx@lemmy.ca 6 points 11 hours ago* (last edited 11 hours ago)

I voted Harris and I voted in a garbage democratic senator for my state too.

I’m not a Democrat or a Republican. Party means jack shit to me. I’d rather vote a well meaning republican (hint: there are none left) than a shit Democrat. I have voted third party for my LOCAL clerk because the Democrat was corrupt as shit.

I will vote most any democrat at this point in the general, but I have my limits. I’m not voting Newsom. I understand the damage of voting third party, but I cannot vote Newsom. Pick someone else

[-] Brkdncr@lemmy.world 1 points 9 hours ago

I agree that he’s a POS but not voting is worse.

[-] oxysis 6 points 12 hours ago

I’d have to pass voting in a general election if he was on the ticket. He’s against trans rights, and I am trans so I won’t be voting to have my rights stripped

[-] Brkdncr@lemmy.world 13 points 12 hours ago

Have you seen what his opposition is doing? Literally stripping trans people of earned retirement to name one. Newsom isn’t great but pick your battles.

[-] oxysis 7 points 12 hours ago

I’m sorry but the degree of difference between the two is fucking almost nonexistent. One wants to throw me in a wood chipper and the other will happily allow me to be thrown in a wood chipper.

Sorry that I don’t want to be tossed in a wood chipper but fuck Newsom and fuck republicunts.

[-] oxysis 6 points 12 hours ago

Once my people’s rights are tossed aside, then the floodgates are open and all of human rights are as good as gone. I will not live to say I told you so because of the way things are going. But when the dust settles Gavin Newsom will be remembered as being a piece of human filth just like the republicunts he opposes.

Sorry I don’t want to die for you to have your fucking cake.

[-] Brkdncr@lemmy.world 6 points 11 hours ago

US politics is 2 party, and you primary to move a party in the direction you want. not voting is effectively a vote against the direction you want to go. I don't like the game, but it's how it's played.

[-] oxysis 3 points 8 hours ago* (last edited 8 hours ago)

I’m gonna vote in the primaries for whoever is willing to stand up for human rights, which includes trans rights. If my choices in the general are a fascist who’s gonna strip my rights and another fascist who’s gonna stripe my rights but now in blue, then sorry I’m not gonna go.

I actually have principles and morals so I’m gonna stick to it. It’s not worth deciding what color the wood chipper that’s gonna kill me is. I shouldn’t have to accept that I won’t live to see my thirties, accept that I likely won’t live to see the end of the decade but here I am. That’s the reality I have to accept because of people like you.

It’s sad that people like you think I should just roll over and give up my rights and accept death. It’s sad that you want to use my people and then toss us aside like a used tissue when we aren’t politically expedient.

[-] hddsx@lemmy.ca 5 points 11 hours ago

Okay how about this? I don’t like trans rights being singled out. These are HUMAN rights. Newsom is against human rights. Doesn’t sound so good to toss that aside, now does it?

[-] zbyte64@awful.systems 2 points 12 hours ago

I'm in California so that would be me wasting a vote.

[-] cabron_offsets@lemmy.world 5 points 11 hours ago

Way to shoot yourself in the dick.

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