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[-] AndreaHill@lemmy.world 118 points 2 years ago

Why do they not want to go bankrupt from major health issues?

[-] BastingChemina@slrpnk.net 79 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

I was listening a podcast about cancer patient in France.

One talk was about the fact that the surgeon was planning on removing the breast tumor AND do the reconstruction directly after.

Except that by doing that the operation would have cost more than what the national social security covers, so it meant a big premium for the patient.

The "big" premium they were taking about was 600€ which is obviously outrageous. To make a cancer patient spend this much money on a life saving procedure.

[-] irdc@derp.foo 53 points 2 years ago

The "big" premium they were taking about was 600€ which is obviously outrageous. To make a cancer patient spend this much money on a life saving procedure.

European here: I agree with this being outrageous. It's not about the money, it's about being a civilised society.

Now hospital parking on the other hand...

[-] aard@kyu.de 16 points 2 years ago

We do have some steep copayments for some treatments as well. For example, if I had to go to the hospital for a month I'd have to pay about 1000 EUR myself.

[-] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 28 points 2 years ago

I was in the hospital for an outpatient procedure a couple of years ago here in the U.S. So not even overnight. I have good insurance. It cost me $2500.

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[-] theragu40@lemmy.world 101 points 2 years ago

Why smoking remains so prevalent. I'm sure it's not a majority that smokes, but it is massively more common anywhere I've been in Europe than here in the US. I live in a fairly large city and I will go many days in a row without seeing a single person smoking.

I just don't really get it. It's gross, it smells, it ruins your teeth and your lungs, and it's expensive. Why do it?

[-] garrett@lemm.ee 21 points 2 years ago

It's not necessarily that smoking is a larger percentage of the population. It varies, but stats show a similar percentage more or less... it is a bit higher in Europe on average than in the US on average — but both places are large with varied amounts of smokers. It's more that people are outside near each other more in Europe.

https://worldpopulationreview.com/country-rankings/smoking-rates-by-country

In Europe they're walking down the street, sitting outdoors at cafes, hanging out in the city center, etc. Whereas in the US, people are often driving from place to place to go to a destination, so you don't notice the smoking as much. Plus, smoking sections are a concept that exists in the US (even outside), whereas they don't in Europe. Thankfully, in much of the US and EU, most places are finally non-smoking indoors now.

This is a gross overgeneralization. It's different in different parts of the US and different parts of Europe, of course.

(FWIW: I totally agree with you that it's gross. And it's far too common to run into in Europe.)

[-] Pat12@lemmy.world 16 points 2 years ago

Why smoking remains so prevalent. I’m sure it’s not a majority that smokes, but it is massively more common anywhere I’ve been in Europe than here in the US. I live in a fairly large city and I will go many days in a row without seeing a single person smoking.

I just don’t really get it. It’s gross, it smells, it ruins your teeth and your lungs, and it’s expensive. Why do it?

this is the same in asia. sometimes people don't even smoke, they just smoke because their boss does it and they do it to fit in at work. it's really awful.

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[-] crypticthree@lemmy.world 92 points 2 years ago

Monarchy. It's the 21st Century and y'all still pay people to live a lavish lifestyle because they are distantly related to some warlord from the 9th century

[-] aksdb@feddit.de 20 points 2 years ago

Then again, the people in all countries pay for the lifestyle of the politicians... in addition to the bribes they get for deciding in favor of whichever corporate and/or rich person needs a specific law passed or vetoed.

At least the monarchs do what you pay them for .... entertain you.

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[-] forgotaboutlaye@lemmy.world 73 points 2 years ago

Specific to Germany, but when a second cashier opens up, it's a first come first serve rush for it, rather than letting the person next inline at the original cashier take the first spot in the new one.

[-] warlaan@lemm.ee 20 points 2 years ago

Completely agree. I am German and it's utterly ridiculous.

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[-] Mantis_Toboggan@lemmy.world 61 points 2 years ago

I belong to neither of these groups. But here goes it.

Europe: when ordering water, I have to specify for it not to have gas (non-carbonated). Also in places like Germany, people drink those before playing football. I don’t understand how you do it or even like it that way.

People in electric scooters are out of control. Specially in Spain. They’re the most egregious when it comes to disrespecting pedestrian crosswalks, dangerous overtaking in bike lanes and all around assholeness. You shouldn’t ride your fucking patinete in a train station crowded with people.

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People from the US: Your tipping culture is out of control. It’s good for outstanding service on certain scenarios. But not for handing me takeout or pulling out a foamy beer from a cooler.

Also , don’t tell newly-aquatinted people from the south that you’re not religious. They’ll try to tell you it’s their duty to save your soul and try to make you go to their religious services, which antagonizes them if you try to set boundaries on your personal beliefs.

Btw. I still like you both.

[-] FooBarrington@lemmy.world 18 points 2 years ago

Europe: when ordering water, I have to specify for it not to have gas (non-carbonated). Also in places like Germany, people drink those before playing football. I don’t understand how you do it or even like it that way.

I like the taste of TV static. Sue me!

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[-] rigamarole@lemmy.world 16 points 2 years ago

American here, I saw a tip jar for the cashiers in a flea market yesterday. I completely agree, it's out of control. It would be great if employers would just pay their employees properly instead of asking customers to subsidize wages.

[-] beefcat@lemmy.world 53 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)
  • No ice in their water or soda
  • No refills on fountain drinks

These are the things that stood out to me whenever I have visited.

I spent a good while in Berlin once and one of my favorite restaurants was this Australian themed place by the IMAX theater just because I could get a nice big Diet Coke with ice in it. Their kangaroo sandwich also wasn’t half bad.

[-] Hawk@lemmy.dbzer0.com 41 points 2 years ago

We're not getting refills anyway, I'd rather not have 80% ice with a bit of soda

[-] givesomefucks@lemmy.world 26 points 2 years ago

The process of a soda fountain makes already it cold.

Ice is completely pointless and without it you don't need refills

[-] beefcat@lemmy.world 25 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

Ice keeps the soda cold throughout your meal.

In Europe my soda was often pretty close to room temperature by the time my food arrived. Not great if you like your beverages “ice cold”. But I get the impression Europeans don’t like their drinks as cold as we do in the US to begin with.

We also use larger glassware in the US, which offsets much of the volume displaced by ice.

So no, ice is not “completely pointless”, it’s just a cultural difference 🙂

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[-] floatingPoint@lemmy.world 53 points 2 years ago

I mean, it might just be a rumor but I hear that instead of being born with arms, Europeans are born with baguette extremities. They nibble on their baguette arms throughout the day, and they grow back while they’re sleeping.

[-] Onionizer@geddit.social 51 points 2 years ago

Nah that's just the french, they're a little weird. Us germans got normal pretzel arms

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[-] AndreaHill@lemmy.world 42 points 2 years ago

How do they put up with the lack of mass shootings ?

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[-] Salad_Fries@lemmy.world 35 points 2 years ago

I know that a short visit doesnt give great insight into a place, but the following 2 things were very striking to me when visiting:

1 - the smoking.. i found it disturbing just how many people were smoking 2 - the graffiti. I was surprised by just how much graffiti there was. Do people not take pride in their property enough to wash it off? I know Graffiti is common everywhere, but it seemed to be on a whole other level in europe.. like it wasnt just on the back alleys, but on the front facades of buildings too. The front door of one of my airbnbs was covered in graffiti.

There was 1 thing though that was totally the opposite though & made total sense... the dual function windows (where you turn the handle 1 way to open them like a door & another way to lean them in to provide ventilation. These were everywhere & i found them to be the most functional thing ever! I wish they would catch on in the usa.. with that said, the first time i discovered this functionality, it was accidental. I panicked as i thought i broke the window lol.

[-] Railcar8095@lemm.ee 23 points 2 years ago

The graffiti thing kills me. Washing it off is a waste, it will be vandalised again quickly. Think this way, repaint properly a wall takes time and money, to draw a cartoonishly large cock takes seconds and costs pennies. So many places chose to allow selected artists do some good stuff as it’s a better deterrent.

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[-] Th3D3k0y@lemmy.world 33 points 2 years ago

I met up for lunch with a buddy and his partner who was visiting from Europe. I mentioned that I drink a lot of water and asked for a refill, they asked if water was free.

[-] lobut@lemmy.ca 20 points 2 years ago

Typically they ask you for still or sparkling while dining and they charge in Europe. In London, I typically just say, "tap". They had to legally serve it.

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[-] nkiruanaya@lemm.ee 30 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

Tiny things, like tiny doorknobs, tiny stairs cases, tiny doors, tiny houses, tiny cars, and a tiny say in government legislation, etc.

And all the smoking! Eek. And we thought we had a drug problem in the USA. I've never seen so many people addicted to nicotine in my life when I've been there. It's everywhere. No thank you, I don't want to inhale nasty odor while eating my lunch. Jeez, WTF?

[-] SHITPOSTING_ACCOUNT@feddit.de 27 points 2 years ago

The rest I understand, but tiny doorknobs and tiny say in legislation? Can you elaborate? I thought door knobs were a US thing and Europe had mostly handles. And what is different in terms of say in government? Do you mean the states' direct democratic votes?

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[-] TheControlled@lemmy.world 27 points 2 years ago

How much they personally hate/dislike us.

  • They've seen too many movies and make unfair assumptions about us and then judge us? Idk.

How racist they are but have no idea they are.

  • They ridicule the US for our own brand of terrible racism but seem to be clueless that they and their government have their own vicious and oppressive racism.

How stuck in tradition they are.

  • I feel like I don't see a lot of progress in construction, culinary arts, or caste systems (to name a few).
[-] derpgon@programming.dev 29 points 2 years ago

I have to kind of disagree with the last point. We have no caste systems, culinary arts are pretty non important, and usually if people want something new they will go to a specialized restaurant. How did the USA change their culinary arts in the past 30 years?

Construction, it did change, and it is constantly changing. We used to use just bricks, now we use porous concrete, and wooden is becoming interesting aswell. We are not building skyscrapers because they are ugly.

Or am I wrong? I am from Czechia.

[-] Mr_Blott@feddit.uk 22 points 2 years ago

I've literally never once met any single person that "hated" Americans, and everyone who's ever met an American says they're lovely, just like us

The best theory we can come up with is that Americans are taught from a young age that their country is the best, and no-one should be allowed to say otherwise. Hence, even the slightest criticism is seen as hate.

Europeans, however, are raised on the belief that self-deprecation is a fuckin art

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[-] charonn0@startrek.website 23 points 2 years ago

Why some of them seem downright gleeful about every American shortcoming or perceived shortcoming.

[-] BrianTheeBiscuiteer@lemmy.world 18 points 2 years ago

As if we don't do the same between the states.

[-] charonn0@startrek.website 16 points 2 years ago

You're allowed to pick on your siblings.

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[-] Pat12@lemmy.world 23 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

I'm not American but i've worked in Western Europe. I don't know why but there seems to be a lot of taxes for everything. You have to get govt permission for everything. People seem to rely on the govt to provide things rather than have some agencies fill niches that aren't filled by the govt (for example I saw signs like don't help homeless people, the govt is helping them).

I'm from an Asian country, we don't have much tax, we don't rely on the govt for anything (we can't), and we have many NGOs. I think it's similar in America.

As an Asian, there are a few things I can note about Europeans.

  • Europeans seem to have lost their sense of traditions, to me as an Asian it doesn't make sense since keeping our traditions and values is a huge part of our culture and society.

  • Europeans also accept blame for bad things they did in the past (which is a good thing) but I think they can go overboard to compensate for that (to their detriment). I don't think accepting blame for things in the past is a thing that's done in Asia; we rewrite history instead. It would help if we acknowledged what we did and can have better relations with others moving forward.

  • Europeans identify more with nationality than ethnicity. For example, someone from Czech Republic moving to France is considered French. In North America I think they would be considered Czech-French. In Asia they would be considered to be a Czech expat living in France. Our ethnicity matters a lot.

[-] irdc@derp.foo 23 points 2 years ago

People seem to rely on the govt to provide things rather than have some agencies fill niches that aren't filled by the govt (for example I saw signs like don't help homeless people, the govt is helping them). I'm from an Asian country, we don't have much tax, we don't rely on the govt for anything (we can't), and we have many NGOs.

Most (but not all!) Europeans consider NGOs to be undemocratic, whereas the government is (theoretically at least) under democratic control.

Europeans identify more with nationality than ethnicity. For example, someone from Czech Republic moving to France is considered French. In North America I think they would be considered Czech-French. In Asia they would be considered to be a Czech expat living in France. Our ethnicity matters a lot.

But at what point would you stop doing so? I'm Dutch yet can trace back my ancestry to the 16th century in Belgium and northern France, what ethnicity do I have? And some have an even longer and more dispersed pedigree.

Also, you gave the example of French but what is now called France was made up from a large variety of ethnicities. Being French then is not defined as being a particular ethnicity but as belonging to the French Republic. It's a cultural thing that matters a lot to them.

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[-] shinigamiookamiryuu@lemm.ee 21 points 2 years ago

It largely depends on the European nation. Even as a non-native, I don't tend to lump them all in one judgment, just as Europeans shouldn't lump all Americans in one judgment. Every American state is different. Reply to this comment with a European country and I'll share the thing about it that I understand the least.

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[-] relative_iterator@sh.itjust.works 20 points 2 years ago

Half of these posts are just inverse statements trying to shit on America. Very boring.

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[-] AndreaHill@lemmy.world 16 points 2 years ago

Why would they want to take more than 10 vacation days each year.

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