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[-] eugenevdebs@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 points 4 hours ago

They would rather lose than give up that money.

[-] echolalia@lemmy.ml 26 points 13 hours ago

The Democratic party would rather lose than oust corporate candidates. That is who they are. If they put forth non-establishment candidates, they would no longer be the Democratic party.

See: the reaction to Mamdani in New York, or how Sander's presidential run was ratfucked.

[-] chosensilence@pawb.social 6 points 13 hours ago

no they can’t lol

[-] Buffalox@lemmy.world 14 points 15 hours ago* (last edited 15 hours ago)

This is what Parkland survivor David Hogg suggested and started to work for a few months ago, but was shut down by established democrats, for not being the traditional practice.

Left wing Democrats need to be more active in the party, and take it over, like happened with Republican party first with Occupy Wall street, which the billionaires (Koch Brothers) hijacked and distorted completely, and paved the way for Maga which is 100% controlled by fundamental billionaires with no regard for the welfare of the general public.

But hopefully the left can manage to stop the billionaire control of the democratic party. So instead of just being the lesser evil, it could become a force for true progress in USA again, like USA had for almost 40 years straight post WW2.

David Hogg is a brilliant strategist, as he proved by taking down NRA, and he also managed to get this issue more on the agenda, support David Hogg, and he will support you!

[-] prole 3 points 7 hours ago

Maga morphed from the Tea Party, not Occupy Wall Street

[-] Buffalox@lemmy.world 1 points 7 hours ago* (last edited 7 hours ago)

Yes you are right, but the origin of the tea party was in Occupy Wall Street. The tea party was an intermediate that slipped my mind. It was the result of the billionaires taking over Occupy Wall Street. Something we could watch happen in real time.

[-] 0ndead@infosec.pub 2 points 3 hours ago

The tea party existed long before occupy

[-] Buffalox@lemmy.world 2 points 2 hours ago

Yes I had it completely mixed up somehow?
Tea party began in 2007, and Occupy Wall Street was in 2011.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Occupy_Wall_Street
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tea_Party_movement

[-] prole 3 points 6 hours ago

Ehhh... I think the connections to occupy are a bit dubious, but I could be misremembering.

Tea Party was more a direct response to Obama that was co-opted by the Kochs.

If there was any overlap, it was with the kind of people who voted for Trump and AOC. Confused people.

[-] marsza@lemmy.cafe 14 points 17 hours ago

Lmfao 2028. Project 2025 is not over. By the end of the year whatever is happening in Washington DC right now will be happening in every single major city in this country.

There is not going to be a 2028

[-] A_norny_mousse@feddit.org 5 points 15 hours ago

You cannot know that. What is the point of such absolute pessimism? People should still go vote, in addition to protesting.

[-] marsza@lemmy.cafe 3 points 9 hours ago

They can stand outside of a location that was previously a voting booth, but it will just be a booth selling Trump Bibles, and no ballots.

[-] WalrusDragonOnABike@reddthat.com 4 points 10 hours ago

If people think they can just wait til 2028 to fix things with a vote, then marsza is right to be pessimistic.

[-] marsza@lemmy.cafe 4 points 9 hours ago

And we all know that (most) people only care about politics during an election year…so…

[-] Buffalox@lemmy.world 4 points 15 hours ago

People should still go vote

Absolutely, if there is a vote in 2028, there is good reason to be pessimistic about that, but there is also good reason to fight for it, but the news the past ½ year, are absolutely not promising, the dark is winning.

One bright spot though is that they may begin to fight each other, and that may be the chance USA has to save democracy.

[-] phutatorius@lemmy.zip 4 points 13 hours ago

What about 2026?

[-] omgboom@lemmy.dbzer0.com 50 points 22 hours ago

It is the most incredible optimism to think you will vote your way out of this. I applaud and lament it.

[-] Bob_Robertson_IX@discuss.tchncs.de 41 points 22 hours ago

So... there's no chance then?

[-] phdepressed@sh.itjust.works 18 points 20 hours ago

I mean Mamdami is crushing it in NYC, cuomos superpac can't save him.

The right candidate can do wonders especially under current conditions.

[-] Death_Equity@lemmy.world 22 points 22 hours ago

Pretty much zero.

The Dems would need to have an actual platform other than orange man and couch fucker bad. They keep running on feelings and vibes without a concrete plan to improve things. Not that they will be able to accomplish anything of value, given the circumstances, which will not help in 2028. Then there is the 3rd parties that could form that really makes things worse.

Without a serious effort by the Dems, we are almost certainly going to have another 4 years of Republican Whitehouse in 2028 and the best hope is a slight majority in Congress.

[-] EarthshipTechIntern01@lemmy.world 7 points 17 hours ago

Bernie is bringing it, AOC & Mamdani too. There are good ones among them (Democrats). And their crowds are enormous, their message unquenched by $ opposition

[-] jcb201625@fedia.io 3 points 21 hours ago

r/angryupvote

[-] QueenHawlSera@sh.itjust.works 7 points 17 hours ago

So you're saying they can't win

[-] A_norny_mousse@feddit.org 2 points 15 hours ago* (last edited 15 hours ago)

Well. If they win it will be with legally corrupt candidates. Unless something fundamentally changes around lobbyism - which is pretty much impossible right now.

[-] immutable@lemmy.zip 27 points 22 hours ago

But maybe this time if we cozy up to the wealthy and get a shit ton of money like 11 gojillion dollars the voters won’t mind that we aren’t advancing policies they like.

Harris only got over a billion but I think if we sell out a little bit harder, shift a little further to the right to make our positions more attractive to the uber wealthy, this time it’ll work.

[-] EarthshipTechIntern01@lemmy.world 3 points 17 hours ago* (last edited 17 hours ago)

/s

No billionaires needed. Listen to Mamdani's words. Messages beyond & above $.

[-] AlecSadler 4 points 16 hours ago

This is a joke.

[-] yonderbarn@lazysoci.al 6 points 18 hours ago

Dems too busy watching the stock ticker

[-] tacosanonymous@mander.xyz 6 points 20 hours ago

Ok but you all have to be active, all the time. That means finding and promoting leftist candidates to increasingly higher levels.

You can’t just wait for a decent candidate to pop up in an election or even a primary.

[-] adespoton@lemmy.ca 3 points 19 hours ago

For some reason I read “candidates” as “Canadians” and was a bit puzzled.

[-] HootinNHollerin@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 19 hours ago
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