lol i think that might be the worst/best thing I have seen in a long time
fuck spez
Cuck boy getting pegged by post top op Garfield is definitely not something I had jotted down in my day-at-a-glance.
Art.
What a terrible day to have eyes.
Given that the Internet Archive is the de facto standard way to cite material as seen on a given date
they're a trustworthy party that will probably persist for a long time
that's going to make it harder to cite content on Reddit.
Damn, guess if you want reddit data to train your AI that you’ll need to pay Spez for access.
As somebody who often ends up using Reddit like Stackoverflow and in some cases needing the Internet Archive (IA) to find the original post after it’s been deleted or garbled, I think this is a wakeup call for those go to Reddit both to get technical help and to post it. More than ever, Reddit is becoming an unreliable place to find answers for old obscure issues and if they are going to lockout places like the IA then I think it’s time people stopped contributing their solutions to Reddit.
Searching anywhere in general is getting shittier and shittier by day. Web searches are riddled with hallucinated AI generated garbage pages. Finding the right answer for difficult problems is getting worse and worse. We are sliding rapidly into Idiocracy.
Not to mention so many projects putting their support in walled garden chat services like Discord that you can’t even search via search engine. Even if you can figure out who asked the right question and when, you have to trawl through a sea of inane garbled chat to get to the developer/expert response.
Specialised topic forums really need to make a resurgence but I doubt they will.
yup. continuing to feed them traffic after their repeated attacks on the userbase is just sad. stop using them. yeah it sucks the info is gone, but acting like they'll wake up and change is absurd.
When I joined Lemmy I decided it was unwise to trust anything on Reddit less than a year old. Now it's anything under two years old.
It’s another move to protect against AI scraping that isn't paying them for access.
I already gave up from Reddit long time ago. Deleted all
As long as the previous collections of archives are still intact. We probably don’t need all of their new spam posts in the wayback machine anyway
It is my understanding that if you block the wayback machine from indexing your site it will also delist the history as well.
They do archive sites against the owners wishes when they consider it an important site for public archiving, like some news sites. They are in no obligation to delete the archives and hope they don’t.
Parties have archived the data from pushshift, which cover a lot of Reddit history.
kagis
https://academictorrents.com/details/1614740ac8c94505e4ecb9d88be8bed7b6afddd4
Subreddit comments/submissions 2005-06 to 2024-12
This is the top 40,000 subreddits from reddit's history in separate files. You can use your torrent client to only download the subreddit's you're interested in.
I mean, that won't have the past half year or some low-traffic subreddits, but...
Just more vindication for my ditching that trash heap of a platform. YT is probably going to be the next platform I ditch as they're going full Reddit now.
It's a matter of time before third-party YT front-ends start getting throttled or outright blocked like third-party Reddit front-ends.
People who posted on Reddit ( speaking in the past tense, because who would continue to do so now that we have better things? ) never intended for it to be of limited access. Reddit was a publicly accessible place, and people shared their thoughts and comments on it because it was the frontpage of the internet, so the place of choice to share things with the world. That being scraped should not be a problem. But clearly Reddit didn't want to give you a platform to share your thoughts with the world, they wanted you to donate your thoughts and take it as their property so that they can capitalize on it.
That place is becoming more and more of a shithole. Bots, Ads, trolls, garbage mods… deleted the app last month.
The company says that AI companies have scraped data from the Wayback Machine, so it’s going to limit what the Wayback Machine can access.
Yeah, wouldn't want those AI companies to get all that data for free. Gotta make 'em pay for it.
This is huge blow to archivism, thanks to corporate greed and enshittification of reddit. Worst MBA filled POS.
Oh no, someone might not be paying them for their user generated content (!)
To be fair, it's probably best that history forgets this period of the web...
Damn you Spez.
Good plan. Keep locking down your big tech platforms, and we'll all be over here letting folks know where they can find freedom.
Careful. Lemmy is too small to draw the attention of sophisticated, persistent abuse. As a company, Reddit has struggled with revenue and we've all seen those struggles quite publicly. Lemmy instances with those same challenges would probably just fold and close up.
Federated networks give you freedom but the potential for abuse is proportional to that freedom while at the same time, federation is far more expensive taken as a whole.
I am new to Lemmy, is there a fuckreddit sub?
In a way, the entire lemmy community is the fuckreddit sub
Yes.
Hi welcome to Lemmy, we hate reddit here.
Fuck Reddit
Fuck Reddit and Fuck Spez.
Nice of them to protect their (users') content from AI scrapping. So that they can charge AI companies for it instead.
They aren’t doing that. They are protecting content from being scraped for free. Reddit is perfectly happy to charge for AI access to user-generated content.
fucking reddit...
OK, I stopped posting on Reddit but left my account and comments in place because I considered them part of the public record. If Reddit is taking that record private, it’s time for me to start removing my content from the platform.
Does anyone know if historical Reddit content will remain in IA? If not, I’m going to have to back up years of content somewhere else.
In the lieu of an IPO u/spez has actively destroyed everything that made Reddit good! Gate keeping the API thinking it'll help with making some bigshot LLM some day lol
This company limited search crawlers to google, why are you surprised?
When reddit has mutated a few more times. They start erasing stuff themselves. It will be lost to time and that fills me with hope.
Fuck Spez
Is that even possible?
Technologically no. Reddit sends out the data to 10s of millions of users as part of their normal operations. They need to try to block those who collect that data for the IA. Reddit has the very short end of the stick.
The problem is that evading such counter-measures may be criminal in the US. Obviously, EU laws are much harsher.
Not that reddit isn't hot garbage right now, and has been for a while actually, but there's a lot of people here who have glazed over the reason why reddit instituted this policy.
AI companies are scraping the Wayback Machine. This is something that should concern all of us.
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