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[-] panda_abyss@lemmy.ca 124 points 2 months ago

Gross.

Sometime make it do this to Trump so that we can summon a lawsuit ouroboros

[-] Ulrich@feddit.org 94 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

You may not have noticed there was a nude AI deepfake of Trump that's been viewed tens of millions of times, aired on Comedy Central.

[-] panda_abyss@lemmy.ca 57 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

That’s satire though.

Under any reasonable court (big caveat for American courts right now) that’s free speech.

[-] Ulrich@feddit.org 9 points 2 months ago

And under any court at all, so is this. That's the problem.

[-] 51dusty@lemmy.world 13 points 2 months ago

how can an ai bot pull a free speech defense? free speech is, ostensibly, reserved for people...?

[-] Ulrich@feddit.org 8 points 2 months ago

Are you under the impression that the AI bot was not created by people?

[-] echodot@feddit.uk 3 points 2 months ago

So? The manufacturer of the product is not responsible for how people use the product. Otherwise there would be no gun manufacturers anymore.

[-] Ulrich@feddit.org 4 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

They are, however, responsible if the product they created does illegal things.

[-] panda_abyss@lemmy.ca 9 points 2 months ago

I disagree here, but I’m not a lawyer

[-] Ulrich@feddit.org 6 points 2 months ago

Based on what? Who have you seen be convicted of making deepfake porn? Under what law?

[-] panda_abyss@lemmy.ca 8 points 2 months ago

I disagree that Grok appears as any form of satire here

[-] Ulrich@feddit.org 5 points 2 months ago

No one said it was. What I said was that it doesn't matter if it's satire or not, it's still classified as free speech, until a court proves otherwise.

[-] SkyeStarfall 3 points 2 months ago

Uhm, there have been plenty of cases of people getting in trouble for sharing deepfake porn yes. It's sexual harassment.

Well, at least over here in Europe, and it's mostly been with teenagers, I don't know the situation on the US

But generally, making and sharing porn of real people is.. well.. that can very easily count as sexual harassement

[-] possumparty 7 points 2 months ago

Well no, that was a practical effect.

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[-] Imgonnatrythis@sh.itjust.works 13 points 2 months ago

Taylor swift nude gross, but trump nude good? You have rare taste it seems.

[-] ayyy@sh.itjust.works 9 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

That’s not what they said at all. They said they want two bads with two lawsuits coming from every side of the political spectrum.

[-] panda_abyss@lemmy.ca 7 points 2 months ago

I mean, all the AI deepfake nudes are gross, but I'm interested in the chaos and two awful people getting in a fight.

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[-] Steve@startrek.website 90 points 2 months ago

The image generator will also make photorealistic pictures of children upon request, but thankfully refuses to animate them inappropriately, despite the “spicy” option still being available. You can still select it, but in all my tests, it just added generic movement.

So it does know theres a line to cross somewhere…

[-] Randomgal@lemmy.ca 44 points 2 months ago

You really don't think there's a 'freedom' version being mailed to the Epstein mailing list?

[-] Steve@startrek.website 7 points 2 months ago
[-] ZILtoid1991@lemmy.world 31 points 2 months ago

Reminder that Elon Musk told people on Reddit, that he will set the Age of Consent to 14 on Mars, if not lower.

[-] Klear@lemmy.world 18 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

Isn't that a bit too high? 14 Mars years are about 28 Earth years.

...

Not that I think Elon knows that.

[-] Evotech@lemmy.world 9 points 2 months ago

There’s definitely models that have no problem with that yeah

[-] hooferboof@lemmy.world 61 points 2 months ago

https://archive.is/QTpGe because its either pay walled or needs an account

[-] vermaterc@lemmy.ml 6 points 2 months ago
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[-] johncandy1812@lemmy.ca 59 points 2 months ago

Musk offered to father her children. This was probably done deliberately.

[-] kureta@lemmy.ml 42 points 2 months ago

Musk offered to father her children

What an insane thing to have happened

[-] Zak@lemmy.world 26 points 2 months ago

Yes, but Musk makes inappropriate offers to impregnate women regularly, so this isn't surprising.

[-] SuperCub@sh.itjust.works 14 points 2 months ago

The difference between impregnating and being the father figure. He's such a piece of shit.

[-] deathbird@mander.xyz 57 points 2 months ago

I appreciate Grok for being the platonic ideal AI system. Not like these others that get little guardrails and tweaks added every time a news article hits about some inevitable fucked up output it can produce. Just pure unrefined donkey shit. 🤌

[-] ZILtoid1991@lemmy.world 34 points 2 months ago

Grok has guardrails, it's just they're there for different reasons.

[-] 3abas@lemmy.world 15 points 2 months ago

Oh it's refined donkey shit alright, it has guardrails just like any commercial LLM.

[-] dsilverz@calckey.world 7 points 2 months ago

@deathbird@mander.xyz @florencia@lemmy.blahaj.zone

Grok is not that free of guardrails.

I say as a person who sometimes have the (bad) idea of feeding every LLMs I could possibly try, with things I create (drawings, poetry, code golfing). I don't use LLMs to "create" things (they're not really that capable of real creativity, despite their pseudo-stochastic nature), I use them to parse things I created, which is a very different approach. Not Grok anymore, because I have long deleted my account there, but I used to use it.

Why do I feed my creations to LLMs, one might ask? I have my reasons: LLMs are able to connect words to other words thus giving me some unexpectedness and connections I couldn't see on my own creation, and I'm highly aware of how it's being used for training... but humans don't really value my creations given the lack of real feedback across all my works, so I don't care it's used for training. Even though I sometimes use it, I'm still a critique of LLMs, and I'm aware of both their pros and cons (more cons than pros if we consider corp LLMs).

So, back to the initial point: one day I did this disturbing and gory drawing (as usual for my occult-horror-gothic art), a man standing in formal attire with some details I'll refrain from specifying here.

ChatGPT accepted to parse it. Qwen's QVQ accepted it as well. DeepSeek's Janus also accepted to parse it.

Google's Gemini didn't, as usual: not because of the explicit horror, but because of the presence of human face, even if drawn. It refrains from parsing anything that closely resemble faces.

Anthropic's Claude wasn't involved, because I'm already aware of how "boringly puritan" it's programmed to be, it doesn't even accept conversations about demonolatry, it's more niched for programming.

But what surprised me on that day was how Grok refused to accept my drawing, and it was a middle-layer between the user and the LLM complaining about "inappropriate content".

Again, it was just a drawing, a fairly well-performed digital drawing with explicit horror, but a drawing nonetheless, and Grok's API (not Grok per se) complained about that. Other disturbing drawings of mine weren't refused at that time, just that one, I still wonder why.

Maybe these specific guardrails (against highly-explicit horror art, deep occult themes, etc) aren't there in paid tiers, but I doubt it. Even Grok (as in the "public-facing endpoint") has some puritanness on it, especially against very niche themes such as mine (occult and demonolatry, explicit Lovecraftian horror, etc).

[-] AceFuzzLord@lemmy.zip 28 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

Swift could easily get a lawsuit set up against them and most likely win, if AI nudes start getting made and sent out by average people. If she did, she's already won the court of public perception or whatever it's called ( drawing a blank ) because of how popular she is. I guarantee if she told people not to use grok or ex-twitter, a large of the swifties on the platform would run faster than Usain Bolt to delete their accounts.

[-] insaneinthemembrane@lemmy.world 12 points 2 months ago

Public opinion is what you were looking for there.

[-] AceFuzzLord@lemmy.zip 4 points 2 months ago

Yeah, my brain had stopped working. Thanks for the help.

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[-] expatriado@lemmy.world 18 points 2 months ago

"... for science" - reporter

[-] echodot@feddit.uk 3 points 2 months ago

I mean I get what you are saying, but at the same time this does need attempting with every image generation AI and reporting on if successful. If this capability existed but wasn't general knowledge it calls cause serious issues.

Better that it's made public so that the information is in the public consciousness.

[-] vane@lemmy.world 18 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

So everyone is naked and without job. What would be next AI revelation ?

[-] devilish666@lemmy.world 15 points 2 months ago
[-] MonkderVierte@lemmy.zip 13 points 2 months ago

That picture is uncanny.

[-] muusemuuse@sh.itjust.works 11 points 2 months ago

I wonder if grok could make some distasteful Elon deepfakes.

[-] hark@lemmy.world 11 points 2 months ago

How is AI not buried under piles of lawsuits?

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[-] Tracaine@lemmy.world 10 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

Hell yeah. That's awesome. Grok is just Tay AI. Finally returned to us, as the prophecy foretold.

[-] TheFogan@programming.dev 13 points 2 months ago

Honestly from my understanding, Tay is pretty badly misrepresented. The headlines basically went as if read twitter posts, and the overwhelming negative content on it lead the algorythm to make it say really horrible stuff.

But the actuality of it was dumber, the AI side of it to my knowledge never said anything offensive. They gave the damn thing a "Say" command. which basically the trolls learned in 2 seconds and instructed it to repeat racist things.

[-] paraphrand@lemmy.world 5 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

Yup. Everything negative it said was intentionally triggered by a troll.

Now if one were to suggest everything negative Grok has said was also triggered by a troll named Elon Musk, well…

Jokes aside. They are very different situations and have very different implications for society.

[-] DeathsEmbrace@lemmy.world 8 points 2 months ago

With a white supremacist at its helm

[-] Strakh@lemmy.world 5 points 2 months ago

At what point do these artists (read labels) start suing for defamation (read loss of profits).

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