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[-] BonesOfTheMoon@lemmy.world 293 points 2 years ago

How is this not enforced by the court that ordered it? It should be 30 days and you end up in prison.

[-] query@lemmy.world 181 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

People are kept in prison without a conviction, for not affording bail. Owing a thousand times the lifetime earnings of other people should at the very least mean all your accounts and holdings are frozen, and you can't spend anything without getting independent approval every time.

[-] yamdwich@kbin.social 101 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

The settlement payout is on hold pending his bankruptcy case is why they haven't done something like this. However, lawyers for the families are in fact trying to have his assets placed in a trust or have the bankruptcy case cancelled outright because of his spending. By design it's a slow, complicated process where Jones has lots of legal (and illegal) avenues to delay paying. Fortunately Jones is so stupid and outlandish that he's likely hurting his own case so I wouldn't be surprised if a judge slaps him with more severe sanctions.

[-] superduperenigma@lemmy.world 57 points 2 years ago

his bankruptcy case

The fact that he can simultaneously have a bankruptcy case and spend nearly six figures in a single month is absolutely infuriating.

[-] BonesOfTheMoon@lemmy.world 17 points 2 years ago

Yes, at very least that!

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[-] teradome@lemmy.one 37 points 2 years ago

Welcome to the world of civil court decisions :(

If it had been a criminal defamation case, then it would be criminally enforcable... but all this really means is "a judge ruled you need to pay" and if you don't pay, then you could sue them again for not paying, and it just goes in a loop over and over again. I have a friend whose family has been in a loop like this in civil court over a bad real estate venture for decades with someone who simply ignores the rulings.

It hangs over the head of the person who did it, but in the end it's mostly just a "it's on your permanent record" kind of stain which can stop people from working with you and damage your personal life, but it's not like the kind of people who would work with Alex Jones don't know who they're working with.

[-] KevonLooney@lemm.ee 41 points 2 years ago

That's not true at all. You can garnish their wages or put a lien on their property. What do you think banks do if you don't pay your loans?

https://www.nolo.com/legal-encyclopedia/tips-collecting-judgment-29479.html

[-] TranscendentalEmpire@lemm.ee 12 points 2 years ago

It's a lot harder with rich people, they typically aren't reimbursed by traditional means, and they can afford to hire people to obscure your assets with your businesses or trust assets.

What do you think banks do if you don't pay your loans?

They typically take what you put up as collateral, this is why banks typically require some sort of collateral even if the person is wealthy.

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[-] ObviouslyNotBanana@lemmy.world 9 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

There's a bankruptcy process ongoing. He's trying to trick it but is failing.

[-] MrSpArkle@lemmy.ca 8 points 2 years ago

The ruling meant nothing. The guy is on the air now calling the Maui fire a false flag.

[-] newthrowaway20@lemmy.world 139 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

Dude spends more in a month than I make in a year and a half. Fuckin eat these pigs.

[-] JoeBigelow@lemmy.ca 19 points 2 years ago

Damn, you're doing alright at least. It'd take me almost 3 years to make that

[-] RobertOwnageJunior@lemmy.world 10 points 2 years ago
[-] ilex@lemmy.world 7 points 2 years ago

Oh god why? Is this a highschool-college or non-usa country thing?

[-] RobertOwnageJunior@lemmy.world 5 points 2 years ago

I'm from Germany and I am just not really qualified xD.

[-] JoeBigelow@lemmy.ca 5 points 2 years ago

What's the quality of life like on that salary in Germany? And is that in euro or USD? Honestly very curious.

[-] RobertOwnageJunior@lemmy.world 6 points 2 years ago

It's EUR, so like 26k in Dollars or something like that. It's pretty ok, tbh, I can pay rent and spend on stuff I want here and there. It's pure speculation, but it's probably a lot more comfortable than if I would live in the US. I am definitely not poor or anything, but most of the people I know definitely earn more.

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[-] Zealousideal_Fox900@lemmy.world 8 points 2 years ago

Can't wait for the roast Jeff Bezos and Warren Buffet pie!

[-] veng@lemmy.world 6 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

Plenty of people out there spend more money just on soap and diffusers, than you or I make in a year and a half, lol

[-] Kowowow@lemmy.ca 51 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

One of the people he owes money to is a cancer patient who has to crowd fund her treatments

[-] WorldieBoi@lemmy.world 50 points 2 years ago

Piece of shit

[-] chiliedogg@lemmy.world 49 points 2 years ago

Fucking seize his assets and jail him for contempt already.

[-] Snekeyes@lemmy.world 12 points 2 years ago

No, no. That suggests Rich people can get in trouble for doing dumb things. Can't be having them treated like plebs?

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[-] DoctorTYVM@lemmy.world 24 points 2 years ago

At least trash bags have a purpose. His only purpose is to provide a gender neutral bathroom once he's in the grave.

[-] KingThrillgore@lemmy.ml 32 points 2 years ago

Find him, tie him up by his feet, and shake his pockets clean.

[-] Clbull@lemmy.world 24 points 2 years ago

Someone really needs to sic a team of forensic accountants on this asshole.

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[-] Zealousideal_Fox900@lemmy.world 15 points 2 years ago

I've never wished death on someone before but that might be broken soon.

[-] PatFussy@lemm.ee 7 points 2 years ago

Just so we are on the same page, what exactly is he expected to do? He doesnt even have 1/50 of that amount in any form. Even if he sayys everything he owns and liquidated everything he wont have anywhere near of that. He is abusing credit lines right now, i think i read he owes like 80 different creditors 100k or something. He will definitely run out of string but what is he expected to do when he does? He is probably gonna just go to jail and not pay anything.

[-] snooggums@kbin.social 24 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

Transfer his shares/ownership over to the victims if he can't liquidate it.

He should not be able to sped $93,000 while not giving a dime to his victims. He wouldn't be able to spend anything above the poverty level until he pays it off in a just world.

[-] flipht@kbin.social 15 points 2 years ago

He was already hiding assets because his ex wife was suing for full custody and would wind up with substantial child support. Her lawyers argued that he was batshit and shouldn't be around the kids. His lawyers argued it was all just an act. Then he got on the stand and doubled down on his "act" and acted batshit.

It's also been known that he's been hiding assets since due to this ruling since early 2022.

So what do I expect? I expect us to stop buying the bullshit "plausible deniability" angles these crooks keep thinking up. Plenty of people owe restitution that they can never hope to pay back. They still owe the money and are expected to make reasonable payments, to not artificially limit their income, and to not bump up their expenses unnecessarily. If they can't do that, then the court can and should garnish their accounts above a set budget.

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[-] lolcatnip@reddthat.com 6 points 2 years ago

All I want is for him to die homeless, penniless, friendless, and utterly forgotten. Is that really so much to ask?

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[-] imgonnatrythis@lemm.ee 6 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

Merriam-Webster needs to do a fund raiser where if people donate up to some set goal they will change the entry "shit" to Shit (n) - : bodily waste discharged through the anus; Usage - "Alex Jones is a real piece of shit"

Then give all the money raised to these families and gun control advocacy groups.

[-] Snekeyes@lemmy.world 6 points 2 years ago

Can't we just make him eat a bag of those chips in that challenge?

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