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I know it never could or would work, but every so often I wish there was some imaginary huge tract of land that nobody had owned before...and I guess somehow didn't affect the environment for all the assholes that want to play power games or pretend they could rule the world or just live lawlessly so they could be silo'ed off from society. Of course it would fall apart, innocent people would somehow end up in there. They'd probably end up attacking the rest of the world and I'm sure a myriad of other terrible problems. But man that'd be nice.

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[-] Bloomcole@lemmy.world 3 points 6 hours ago

That sounds like you want to deport people

[-] HexadecimalSky@lemmy.world 5 points 9 hours ago

*See Australia, Taiwan, U.S.A., Japan

Society used to exile people, send them to penal colonies or some people that felt ostracized packed up and left Society. Where? To some of the grea open uninhabited or not so habitatated lands. Taking U.S.A. as an example, there where religious extremists who became unwelcome in Britain, so they left to a place they could practice thier beliefs without competition, America.

Every Society worked better because you didn't need to imprison or kill people that where criminals and people that where ostracized somewhat had the option of making thier own land. Now every single piece of land is claimed there is nowhere to exile people and no where to just run to.

[-] Bloomcole@lemmy.world 1 points 6 hours ago

And see how that worked out

[-] mogranja@lemmy.world 1 points 7 hours ago
[-] HexadecimalSky@lemmy.world 1 points 7 hours ago

Fair, can we start a Make Antarctica Great Agian and encourage some people to move to a "greener" pasture?

[-] NerdyPopRocks@lemmy.world 4 points 9 hours ago

I thought you said Autozone and I was excited that someone else was also enthusiastic about a do-it-yourself auto repair shop

[-] macncheese@lemmy.world 2 points 9 hours ago

Fuck it, I'll take an autonomous AutoZone!

[-] Sir_Kevin@lemmy.dbzer0.com 9 points 11 hours ago

You should watch Westworld! It's basically what you describe.

[-] Jarix@lemmy.world 1 points 7 hours ago

If you were to write an isekai anime for this, it seems like this might be wildly popular in a The Boys kind of way

[-] Part4@infosec.pub 10 points 13 hours ago* (last edited 12 hours ago)

The 'freedom' they want only extends to having the freedom to do what they want regardless of how it impacts anybody else.

The vast majority of these people don't want isolation. They need other people to exploit. Edit - or they want the freedom to exploit other natural resources (no doubt they see humans as a natural resource to be exploited) regardless of the impacts on other people, now or in the future.

[-] macncheese@lemmy.world 1 points 9 hours ago

What a bunch of selfish twats!

I unironically want this for everyone. You want to help give communism another shot? Welcome to our home, comrade. You think the DOT, DOE, and FDA are infringing on your rights? Freedom is just a plane ride away. You dream of theocracy? Your wish is granted, by his hand. A streamlined process for balanced legal migration would also be great.

[-] svcg 9 points 14 hours ago

Have you heard about what happened when libertarians took over Grafton, NH?

[-] macncheese@lemmy.world 2 points 9 hours ago

Ha that was a fascinating read. I guess bears are libertarian as well!

[-] Venus_Ziegenfalle@feddit.org 27 points 19 hours ago

Sorry, you're born too late. You would have loved 19th century colonialism. As long as you could get over the "uninhabited" part of course.

[-] macncheese@lemmy.world 19 points 18 hours ago

Everybody is assuming I want to take part in this. I want an imaginary zone for all the assholes to go to...

[-] INHALE_VEGETABLES@aussie.zone 2 points 14 hours ago

This is it 👍

[-] yermaw@sh.itjust.works 2 points 17 hours ago

Ive had similar thoughts about racially pure islands. Everyone's happy. The race-supremacy people get to live among their own and the rest of us are free from their bullshit.

[-] zurchpet@lemmy.ml 2 points 13 hours ago

Since they're racists they soon would find other random properties to segregate.

[-] A_norny_mousse@feddit.org 4 points 14 hours ago* (last edited 11 hours ago)

Even more adventurous and lawless and dangerous in earlier centuries.

As long as you could get over the “uninhabited” part of course.

They sure did back then, easy as pie.

And some very influential people want that era back. Incl. trampling on people already living there. [Techbroligarch "Freedom" Cities]

[-] ileftreddit@piefed.social 41 points 22 hours ago

That’s just called the USA

[-] macncheese@lemmy.world 15 points 22 hours ago

Nah but I'm stuck here., womp womp. I want a place people voluntarily go into. This is not based in reality lol. As I've gotten older and learned more about history, I realized what a cursed nation we are though...

[-] Moonweedbaddegrasse@lemmy.world 10 points 18 hours ago

That was essentially why the US was founded.

[-] macncheese@lemmy.world 1 points 10 hours ago

But alas we were also assholes the whole time...

[-] TheFogan@programming.dev 10 points 20 hours ago

Honestly I'm more wishing the opposite was possible. Imagine a utopia to test out, UBI, communism etc... somewhere that capitalists aren't going to sabatoge and declare war on it while it's in it's infancy.

[-] AlecSadler 6 points 20 hours ago* (last edited 20 hours ago)

Danish countries.

And...huh, it works.

[-] Deckname@discuss.tchncs.de 12 points 17 hours ago

I guess by "Danish countries" you mean scandinavia (Denmark, Sweden, Norway and Finland)? Then i regrettably have to inform you, that they are just slightly less horrendously capitalistic. Compared to the USA they probably seem like star trek though, so i get the sentiment.

[-] Tollana1234567@lemmy.today 6 points 18 hours ago

sounds like the purge.

[-] Wigners_friend@piefed.social 6 points 19 hours ago* (last edited 19 hours ago)

It wouldn't work, even in principle. They want to force you to live by their lunacy. It would be totally pointless if they couldn't exert power over the unwilling.

[-] macncheese@lemmy.world 1 points 10 hours ago

Yea, in the real world I guess we're stuck with these bastards. What a bunch of bastards!

[-] realitista@lemmus.org 3 points 16 hours ago

Of course it wouldn't work. That's the whole point. But I say we just ship them there whether they want to go or not.

[-] macncheese@lemmy.world 1 points 10 hours ago

Thank you. You get it. We're not assuming the rules of the world we live in. I'm just fantasizing a simple solution to a complex problem and pretending the problem would be solved ha. (Yes yes I know the problems continue...)

[-] Longmactoppedup@aussie.zone 11 points 22 hours ago

I imagine it becoming a haven for profitable vices like drugs, gambling and prostitutes to make money off tourists.

[-] Endymion_Mallorn@kbin.melroy.org 15 points 21 hours ago

So you're saying someone would make their own country, with blackjack and hookers?

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[-] ICastFist@programming.dev 7 points 21 hours ago

You might be interested in the history of Kowloon Walled City after WW2

As a result of the absence of any widely recognized bureaucracy, the city's residents and businesses had no municipal codes to govern them. Enabled by the enclave's anarchic nature, trade in banned products thrived, ranging from narcotics to dog meat. From the 1950s to the 1970s, it was controlled by local triad gangs and had high rates of prostitution, gambling, and drug abuse.

[-] macncheese@lemmy.world 4 points 19 hours ago

Yea that place sounds nuts. My mom was for a time from Kowloon, not the walled city but I'm guessing around the same time it operated which is wild to imagine.

[-] scytale@piefed.zip 10 points 23 hours ago* (last edited 23 hours ago)

It would be easier to somehow trick those people into a matrix-style virtual reality where it's literally the same as the current world at the point where they enter (so they don't realize). Then they can act out whatever they want to do as they do in the real world with all the consequences, but instead affecting nothing in reality. Having an autonomous zone to act it out won't work because they won't be satisfied if the real world they perceive isn't affected.

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[-] falidorn@lemmy.world 9 points 22 hours ago

You might want to read Neuromancer to find out why that’s a terrible idea. If it’s in a cyberpunk world, it’s almost assuredly a giant red flag the author is waving.

[-] macncheese@lemmy.world 13 points 22 hours ago

To be clear, I don't want to go to this autonomous zone. I want others to go do their weird shit there ha. But yea I'll have to read Neuromancer, have heard it's a good read.

[-] falidorn@lemmy.world 1 points 13 hours ago

It’s not about living there. The zone still allows for the rich and powerful to exploit people and profit immensely off of it. The world would be no prettier because your autonomous zone; that area would just be filthier.

[-] macncheese@lemmy.world 1 points 10 hours ago

And thus why this zone is imaginary and would never work and I say it would have terrible problems. I fully accept reality and don't want this to actually exist. This shower thought was not based in reality yet it seems I wasn't clear about that.

[-] Treczoks@lemmy.world 3 points 18 hours ago

How about a boat in international waters?

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[-] lemmyng@piefed.ca 2 points 17 hours ago

Westworld explored that idea. It doesn't end well.

[-] macncheese@lemmy.world 1 points 10 hours ago

I'm not saying it would end well, in fact I know it would be a disaster lol. I stopped watching Westworld after two seasons and was trying to come up with a joke about how it doesn't end well...it jumped the shark or some corny joke ha. Anyway did the show actually have a conclusion and is it worth watching to the end?

[-] lemmyng@piefed.ca 1 points 10 hours ago

It ended up on a cliffhanger. If season 2 made you give up then the rest will likely not be your cup of tea either.

[-] SkavarSharraddas@gehirneimer.de 5 points 22 hours ago

Unfortunately they're probably not stupid enough to all fuck off to Mars soon…

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