Could? go publicly criticize the Pedo in chief and watch what happens
The idea that America EVER had free fucking speech is propaganda. There is no such thing, not in the US and not anywhere. Nations have to control their propaganda or they lose their power. Want an example? Just log into your favorite feed-site in another country and look how radically different every post, every comment and every news story is. Our perspective in the US is as cultivated as it is anywhere else.
The only way we would ever have truly free speech in any capacity would be if we had a borderless world, and I don't see that happening as long as we have money and classes.
Short of some alien species descending and absorbing everyone into a hive-mind, this isn't going to change for a thousand years at least.
It's the useful idiots on the left who keep saying freedom speech is a dogwhistle.
Anyone looking for "dogwhistles" in ANY capacity at this point is an idiot. It's like flypaper to morons.
Yah kiddos, keep screaming about blue-jeans ads and making the other sides scream back, that will SURELY remove the actual white nationalists and fascists who own and control the country. Keep arguing on the internet to give the impression we actually have free-speech. It's a planned and working system to delude the masses into thinking they have power to anything in the face of capitalism and the fascist system it requires to keep the line going up.
I think it's odd (and pretty terrifying) the U.K. and U.S. have been on such similar and almost coordinated authoritarian tracks over the last few years. It started with a lot of gradual steps and more recently they seem to be ramping things up (which also seems pretty common for authoritarianism/by the time most people notice something weird is happening it's too late).
Both ramping up A.I. to spy on, and control/micromanage their own civilians while refusing regulations or any public accountability for the A.I. they're developing.
April 2024: U.S., U.K. Announce Partnership to Safety Test AI Models
Feb 2025: UK and US refuse to sign international AI declaration
May 2025: Brexit’s Failures Could Foreshadow Trump’s. Just Not in the Way You Might Think.
As someone who immigrated to the UK I can tell you this is a bit of a stretch. I'm not exactly afraid of dying in a hate crime at a traffic stop or ICE agents beating down my door to detain me here.
But yeah, some internet liberties are being steadily revoked. Hardly the same fucking thing as literally fearing for your life each day because of your last name or the color of your skin.
Freedom today for safety tomorrow. That's where it always starts. How far it's allowed to go is TBD, but don't worry, it's for your own good.
We have been on the same track in many respects since Reagan/Thatcher.
Definitely not a coincidence.
https://www.heritage.org/conservatism/commentary/reagan-and-heritage-unique-partnership
"and america could be next!" they literally have domestic concentration camps in america there is no freedom there
Yep. They have it backwards. UK is next... in maybe a decade. Could be longer.
Just what the fuck is this timeline? I was born in Russia and spent a good chunk of my life basically idolizing USA, UK, EU, other European countries, English-first countries, etc.
By the time I had the language and professional skills to try and migrate into a probably really good life, suddenly there's a rise of authoritarianism, loss of privacy, rollback to the political right and intolerance and hatred and whatever.
There's still a long way for these nations to go before things are as bad as here, but the differences still are dwindling at an alarming rate and I often find myself wondering if it's gonna be worth the effort if I want to eventually move to someplace that still respects privacy and freedom and is sensible about the Internet and digital technologies.
There's still a lot of perks from knowing English as well as I do, but at this point, I think I'd have to learn German or Swedish or some other northern EU language if I ever make up my mind.
And by the time I'm ready, these countries will roll out some bullshit, too, right?
And then there's Visa and MasterCard telling you what you can and can't purchase because some conservative cesspool wrote some emails - but gamers' emails are ignored...
It's all so demoralising. I miss looking forward to the future with hope and excitement for things.
For real. The shell shock of working all your life to move to these once idyllic looking countries has been about as quickly and bizarrely dismantled near overnight in the same vein as the 2008 market crash impacting an entire generation's outlook on their career prospects.
Basically, if you were born in the 90s/00s, your future is fucked no matter what you choose to pursue or where you move to. Even people working at NASA are being fucked over as we speak. We're in war times.
what's happening is our current system right now is in the process of failing. it's dying, it didn't work and it can no longer sustain itself. Someone once said something along the lines of "When the current system fails, the next one will consist of whatever ideas are left"
So what ideas are left? the ideas of the far right, just like far right ideas are ALWAYS left when a system is about to die. So all these governments, all these wealthy individuals, all these people that have the most to gain are are going start backing the new up coming system. We're seeing it in real time.
But this has happened time and time again. We're a collectively dumb species and love watching repeats. it's always the same song and dance "well lets go this way, sure it didn't work out last time but I don't believe it'll happen to us THIS time".
So it's not so much "what the fuck is this timeline" but rather "well it's our generations turn for bullshit". And it always skips a generation. So the boomers didn't experience it, but their parents did, and now it's our turn. Hopefully our children or our Kids children will be smarter than boomers but...we as humans sure do love watching reruns.
And then there’s Visa and MasterCard telling you what you can and can’t purchase because some conservative cesspool wrote some emails
They didn't just write emails, they actually picked up the phone and called them, non stop. They made it into a problem that couldn't be ignored. Gamers haven't done that, unfortunately.
There's always Canada, a similarly large yet sparsely populated land with awful winters and bad food, you'll fit right in.
Sweden teaches its kids English first now. You'll be fine.
Back in the '80s my British father would get as far as opening his mouth to use the Swedish he'd been practicing before the shopkeeper would preempt him in flawless English "How can I help you, sir?".
My inlaws actually don't speak any English and they're the first adult Swedes I've known that don't. Fortunately I speak Swedish fluently but it was comedically awkward for my wife's previous British boyfriends!
America is already well on its way to lose free speech as well. We have a secret police called "ICE" now, so it's only a matter of time unless the "resistance democrats" finally do their fucking job
I think the US will be fine as long as we don't repeatedly elect some kind of cabal of pedophile authoritarians.
Pretty much every company that matters decided to go full 1984 censorship and surveillance all at the same time. And the governments are more than happy to play along. UK, US, etc. Pretty much all of "the west"
They are paving the way for feudalism to replace liberal democracies,
Big time.
And thanks for the link! learned a new philosophy tag for the silicon-valley-government-buying-neo-nazi-death-cult.
🌠the more you know (about the enemy) and all that. . .
How many whistleblowers and reporters did Bush and Obama charge with the Espionage Act?
That was lost a while ago, but it's nice more people are noticing that it's getting worse.
Britain never had free speech and always have been a absolute nanny state. It's a prime example that government overreach does not result in any safety improvements.
Many people seem to ignore that british legislation is choke full of gag laws and restrictions on pretty fundamental rights.
So did people in the 80's (before internet) have more free speech than now, or less?
Can't anyone just build their own website and "free speech" all they want?
Private media owners always had control over their property, that isn't new.
Hopefully this doesn't devolve into another USA vs UK shit flinging contest. Authoritarianism is on the rise everywhere, Trump and Starmer are both utilising state power to crack down on dissent and opposition. Those of us who are opposed to this shit are on the same side.
The US is already well down the path with masked men kidnapping people on the street, holding them without any contact, defunding all sorts of media and billionaires suppressing all sorts off stuff in their media outlets.
Uh, America had free speech? First I'm hearing about it.
If you're wealthy enough, you can do whatever you want.
Freedom™
With a president meddling in both universities and media free speech, there is no way to seriously say USA has free speech.
But even before these issues freedom of speech was very challenged in USA.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/World_Press_Freedom_Index
Britain has never had free speech in the same way as the US, nor even of the press. Only in the last few decades, they've only had what's required by the ECHR.
Well US free speech is telling lies and misleading millions of people on broadcast television.
Remember VPNs definitely don’t help here, definitely don’t try to skirt any protections using a VPN, definitely remember to have your ID with you at the ready for any website to show to.
If you could project into the future, you might see that VPNs are a dwindling non-solution to the problem. As this unsettling trend makes waves across all jurisdictions in the world, every VPN's IP will be subject to these new controls.* Eventually normies might need to understand technologies like Tor or I2P. Only problem is, if things get really bad they might ban the use of both outright. I'm not sure if I2P can be detected just as Tor, but I do know Tor users can be detected easily. Which is why if you're in a "censorship" country you need to use some sort of special subset of entry guards. I2P might be better because every node in the network is like a router, none are specifically entry, middle, or exit nodes. Only thing I could think of, maybe some form of deep packet inspection? If everybody runs an I2P router, then simply making requests to other nodes is not enough to determine it's an i2p communication?* It's just distributed computing, the way the internet was intended!
What's happening in Britain, thought current government was a good one?
Labour is centrist and they desperately want to exert more control. English are sheep, so no one will protest daddy government.
Supposedly centrist. They're curious whether being populist right wing on some issues will win over Reform UK voters. It's just that they're so curious and are doing this so often that they're well on their way into morphing into a right wing party.
so no one will protest daddy government.
Yea this is a problem..
What is this 'could be' business?
Very information heavy article. I appreciate that.
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