I don't get all the people assuming she's about to be "suicided". For all appearances, it looks like she's conspiring with the people in power to be useful to them in exchange for a pardon. Why would they kill her if she's playing ball?
Exactly. Getting a pardon for the 20 year sentence is still a sweet deal. All she has to say that trump has nothing to do with it and even if she lies the pardon will absolve it.
This is why US should never allow blanket pardons or pardons before a conviction.
A lot of those shenanigans would be cut with those restrictions.
This is why US should never allow blanket pardons or pardons before a conviction.
Not sure if this is really a great example to make your point, considering Maxwell was convicted already, and Trump wouldn't need to issue a blanket pardon to get her out of prison in exchange for her testimony.
The real issue here is that Trump knows there's no consequences if he does pardon her. He wouldn't get removed from office over it, and I doubt the House would even bring articles of impeachment. The Supreme Court has conceded him all the power, and Congress is too spinless to hold him accountable for anything.
Maxwell can commit additional crimes (i.e. lying) to get a pardon and that pardon would absolve her from those crimes.
She could tell a complete lie under oath and after pardon nothing could be done about it.
This is why no matter what she says, the full unredacted files should be released.
No one is going to believe her if she says Trump was never a client of Epstein, and then he pardons or commutes her sentence. If she tells the truth, she's not getting the pardon. Trump could promise her the pardon, have her say he wasn't involved with Epstein, and then never pardon her, but then risk she might talk for revenge. Trump needs her to calm the conspiracy theory and shift the focus away from him, without appearing to give her clemency.
No one with a brain is going to believe her. Plenty of people will.
They know that not everyone will buy her testimony. They're counting on enough MAGA people buying it for them to put it all behind them. Having her assassinated would just resurrect the scandal. It's also not realistic to suppose that they could renege on a pardon deal without it getting out, especially if she dies. She has lawyers who'll be only too happy to go on camera and talk about it, and merking them too would only make it worse.
The playbook should be to have her exculpate Trump in public testimony, declare the scandal over, then pardon her at the end of Trump's term.
This person gets it
Looks like their first attempt is to go through SCOTUS. Taco will try to get them throw away the sentence, then he would just say that he had nothing to do with it.
Because the minute she gives them what they have nothing to gain from her but a lot to lose.
And Trump isn't exactly known for honouring deals.
The play is they make a deal with her to say "all of Trumps political enemies are diddlers, but Trump never did anything" by promising her a pardon. But then since its pretty obvious thats a lie and no one will bekeive it, then if they pardon her theres a risk the truth gets out. So they kill her off before she actuslly gets released.
Why take the risk of her saying something?
Because she has a powerful incentive to say what the only person who can get her out of prison wants her to say.
Wasn’t that equally true of Epstein?
I’m surprised she wasn’t disappeared years back.
Trump v1 still had people in there government that were serving the country. This is why coup didn't succeed. This time the very first thing he did was to prioritize loyalty over experience. Pam Bondi essentially is just trump appendix.
The need has to go both ways. At the time, Trump didn't need Epstein to exonerate him publicly.
Not only that. She still has all the information they all want. She will live to 100.
It's a threat to her. Cooperate, or we'll do what we did to Jeff.
She's a liability to them. She holds so much power over them; and all she has to do is run to the media and give them "the truth" ("the truth" being what everyone suspects anyway. Doesn't matter if it's actually true or not)
got to send a message to the rest of them
If she's smart, she'll know the people she snitches on will be after her.
If she's smart she has a dead man's switch
Reiterating what i wrote in another thread:
"She's the daughter of Robert Maxwell, who was believed to be a spy (and apparently potentially a double or triple agent), so I wouldn't be surprised if she's trained in spycraft, in which case she likely has a dead man's switch folder, to be released upon her death to various newspapers, which would explain why she hasn't been murdered yet..
Just my speculations!"
And
"[IMO] they're just negotiating the list of names she'll drop? It'll likely be Trump's equivalent to Saddam Hussein's 1979 Ba'ath Party Purge"
She had no problems lying her ass off when she was on the bench last time. Seems like that would be valuable for Donnie.
Nah, it's the middle of the summer and she's in a Texas prison. They just have to wait for her to heatstroke out
But then people might start asking questions. Better to just have herself tie both arms behind her back, then shoot herself 10 times to the back of the head.
They are getting ready for her big release, or pardon from Trump. Same prison in Bryan, TX that Elizabeth Holmes was in. Tennis at 2pm followed by spa day!
She obviously has a dead man's switch, or she'd have been suicided a long time ago. They're not about to kill her now.
It's not like itd be hard to set up. "Here lawyer, release this when I die"
She was in a minimum security prison before, she just got moved to a different one. I don't know why, but she hasn't suddenly moved to minimum security.
Minimum security federal prison isn't a vacation. I knew someone who was in a women's minimal security prison for a year or so. They're more lax, aside from roll call, prisoners are free to walk around and do whatever, they want, they can even go outside, but there's fuck all to do. A small library and a few board games and that's it. There aren't cells, there's one big room with bunk beds around the walls, restrooms, a dining area and a visitors area and that's all.
No, she's useful to say Trump was never there.
Please give me a source for this
Well, if Jesus says it's true...
This is on the New York Times: https://www.nytimes.com/live/2025/08/01/us/trump-news
Here's a snapshot of the page: https://archive.is/BLFdm
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