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Similar to Microsoft cutting off access to the email server at the International Criminal Court. We need to get our shit together.
Crowdstrike already showed very impressively the danger of monopolies.
In this instance, the cutoff was sought by the European Union (EU), in an attempt to pressure Russia to back off its assaults on Ukraine.
Really burying the lead there. They were shut off due to government sanctions, not arbitrarily by Microsoft.
Really, really dishonest to demonize Microsoft who are in the middle of this. And I say that as someone who hates Microsoft and most of what they do! But this was intentionally painful sanctions decided on by the governments of 27 member countries. 🤷♂️ Don't sell to Russia...
*burying the lede (it's a term from old press printing)
Most style guides and standards accept either spelling, especially when writing for general audiences.
For strict, formal writing, "lede" is still preferred.
https://getproofed.com.au/writing-tips/idiom-tips-bury-the-lede-or-bury-the-lead/
It's burying the lead. As in, you put metal in the ground.
49% owned by Rosneft while another 49% are owned by "UCP" (Russia's United Capital partners). Basically a 100% russian refinery in India...
I think the main thing to focus on is govs should realize they need to ditch Windows, cause what's stopping dumbass America (Tr*mp) from filling a sanction against a country he doesn't like that week?
Enforcing sanctions is not Microsoft's purview though. Unless their TOS specifically cover rthis scenario, which I doubt.
The article implies Microsoft is prepared to admit breach of contract terms, rather than risk EU distrust (or further distrust, after the Khan/ICC debacle).
"Sorry government, I can't enforce your sanctions, my ToS don't allow me"
Do you really think this works?
It's the way it should work. A private company can only be compelled to enforce a government demand under due process of the applicable jurisdiction. Ensures trust through transparency.
If both US and EU foreign policy can dictate who suddenly gets cut off from Microsoft services, trust in those services will erode.
After denying Outlook access to Khan due to (non-judicial) US sanctions against the ICC, multiple European public and private orgs are implementing exit strategies from Microsoft and all providers with a US presence.
The reason leveraging Microsoft as a foreign policy weapon works is because they dominate the market, and Eorope have grown complacent since end of WW2. All thta seems to now be changing.
It’s the way it should work. A private company can only be compelled to enforce a government demand under due process of the applicable jurisdiction. Ensures trust through transparency.
They are compelled to enforce a government demand under due process of the applicable jurisdiction. For a multinational corporation, the applicable jurisdiction are all the jurisdictions they operate in. Since multinational corporations exist to funnel profits into their host country, that country has the ability to compel them under due process in other countries.
You might argue that it's not good for companies to be this large, and I'd agree. You might also argue that specific sanctions aren't good, and I'd agree. But the idea that a companies ToS should supercede jurisdictions and that they shouldn't be curtailed by the governments under which they operate is fundamentally corrosive to the concept of statehood.
Sanctions exist to restrict trade with other countries. This can't work if companies can just ignore sanctions, and I don't want e.g. european companies to ignore sanctions against Russia.
There's nothing to indicate that Microsoft was legally obligated to suspend their service in this case, is my point.
They're not legally obligated to deny their services to customers who have legal disputes totally unrelated to their contract with Microsoft.
It's like getting the power company to cut your electricity because you have unpaid parking tickets - It's probabkly a great way to get parking offenders to pay what they owe, but it undermines trust in general, yes?
Of course there is an indication that Microsoft was legally obligated to suspend their service in this case:
In this instance, the cutoff was sought by the European Union (EU), in an attempt to pressure Russia to back off its assaults on Ukraine.
If they wish to operate in the EU, they have to follow some of the EU's demands.
It’s like getting the power company to cut your electricity because you have unpaid parking tickets - It’s probabkly a great way to get parking offenders to pay what they owe, but it undermines trust in general, yes?
It's more like "getting your accounts frozen because you operate in a country that has sanctions against it". Which is a totally normal thing to do. Companies cutting off other companies that operate in countries which attack other countries doesn't undermine my trust - companies continuing to operate in such countries undermines it.
Nayara were the ones operating/supplying a sanctioned country, not Microsoft, so what legal basis could the EU have against Microsoft?
I don't know why you're acting like this is such a strange thing.
Nayara supplies & operates in a sanctioned country. The EU doesn't want companies supplying companies that do so. If Microsoft wants to keep operating in the EU, they aren't allowed to keep supplying companies that do so.
"The EU doesn't want companies supplying companies that do so." <-- This is what's strange, and new.
Companies supplying companies - it's an order of magnitude beyond the targets of the sanctions.
It becomes impossible to predict which companies and services may be suddenly impacted.
I'm all for the EU sanctions against Russia, and consequences for those entities breaching them. But Microsoft didn't breach the sanctions, and should be used as a tool to punish those that do.
No, it's not new or strange. It's a normal component of sanctions, and it's fundamentally how they're implemented. Otherwise you could circumvent them by setting up two companies.
It becomes impossible to predict which companies and services may be suddenly impacted.
It's pretty easy to predict. Do you do business with a sanctioned country? Then you'll be impacted. Easy enough.
I'm all for the EU sanctions against Russia, and consequences for those entities breaching them. But Microsoft didn't breach the sanctions, and should be used as a tool to punish those that do.
Are you under the impression that Microsoft is being punished in any way? They aren't, they're simply not allowed to do business with companies acting against sanctions if they want to keep doing business in the EU.
Do you do business with a sanctioned country? Then you'll be impacted. Easy enough.
Microsoft isn't doing business with a sanctioned country in this case. That, yet again, is my point. You keep conflating Microsoft with the company actually breaching the EU sanctions.
Microsoft are absolutely being punished - they were forced to make choice between "doing business in the EU" (what exactly the EU threatened is unclear to me) or losing the contract value, plus whatever they may incur in damages though breach of contract.
Then please explain to me one simple thing - how do you implement sanctions when they can be circumvented by setting up a single company?
It is if they want to operate in the country imposing the sanctions.
*27 countries
Enforcing sanctions is not Microsoft’s purview though.
that should be true, but for some reason, these companies are hiding their glee behind governments as they go above and beyond what the sanctions require.
Which hits them harder it's always just about the money. They won't stop supporting genocide in other countries so fuck the capitalist pigs.
Your framing is inconsistent with the information provided in the story. Actually, I think your version is more deceptive than the original, although both could be made more transparent, too.
If software is a service, then service can be denied at any time. Host your own infrastructure, and reclaim digital ownership.
That goes for large businesses and individuals.
My company spent last decade automating moving entire organizations and all their software to the cloud. This decade weve been automating moving entire organizations off the cloud. Sometimes to private clouds but most of the time to on prem hardware just like the old n times.
So many were sold a magical fairytale of huge cost savings and reliability but were greated with an entirely different reality.
I will never understand why businesses want to let someone else control their infrastructure. Putting your money-maker in someone else's hands is just telling them that it's OK to give you the squeeze later.
Because managers really like giving contracts to those giving a presentation in an exotic resort and have a great service agreement so all blame for mishaps can be shifted away from their career.
Also, at least in here, lease costs (like all as-a-service things) are considered to be flexible while own hardware and specially workforce are static costs. And no one wants to increase static costs, even if it's clear as daylight that flexible cost only flexes upward over time unless the company suddenly shrinks by quite a lot.
We moved out entire stack to the cloud, knowing full well we're gonna bring it back in the future. We hosted our apps on traditional servers and server maintenance was a nightmare, we didn't have the capacity and our application uptime is critical to our operations, so we strategically moved everything to the cloud so we can not worry about the maintenance for a bit while we took the time to rebuild our infrastructure properly with load balancing and high availability, and refactored our applications, we're now slowly moving things back.
Someone else controls your infra no matter what. Say you've got a data center, you run all your applications on site. Great, until your ISP or electrical or DNS provider or registrar fuck you.
Whoever decides to trust Microsoft will always get burned. Amazon and Google not much better.
This case is the result of government sanctions, not Microsoft arbitrarily doing shit.
You mean besides abandoning whole fields of research and selling out to the government routinely?
I'm down to criticize Microsoft on things they actually deserve to be criticized on. This scenario isn't one of those, though.
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Yep, i've seen this exact pattern at three diffrent companies - the cloud repatriation movement is gaining serious momentum as CFOs finally see the true long-term costs versus the initial promises.
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in house IT got fucking lazy or not funded properly likely both
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Now they're going on a slippery slope. Just what EU needed to convince them entirely.
The EU pushed for Microsoft to lock the account because they were dealing with Russian oil. It was a Ukrain war sanction
Or at least that’s what the article said.
The article isn't really honest btw, it says indian company and very vaguely alludes to sanctions.
Only a link in the article explains that it's a Russian company dealing with Russian oil
Does anybody read the articles anymore or just post titles?
I just read what AI tells me about it. /s
Idk I wonder how abrupt this actually was. Russia sanctions have been happening for a while.
The new model is SAAH (Software As A Hostage). You would think that overpaid CTOs and CEOS would be able to anticipate something as obvious as this. "The Cloud" just means "someone else's server".
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You'd think russian assets would work harder not to be dependent on US clouds.
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One extreme defensive move for an enterprise would be to implement full redundancy for anything not hosted on-premises. Redundancy for data protection is relatively straightforward, but having multiple email, supply chain, or e-commerce services is very expensive and disruptive. What are the odds that it would even be needed? Whatever those odds were, they just became much higher.
This is simply dumb. The odds are greater than zero. you must have a disaster plan. It sucks that MS did this but I don’t have much sympathy for anyone that decided to save money by ignoring DR.
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Critical Dependency As A Service
For when you need to outsource the potential crippling of your business to potentially hostile third parties.
I swear to god I keep wondering when people are going to wake up to the fact that Cloud is such a fucking rip off on every level.
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