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[-] Lucidlethargy@sh.itjust.works 47 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago)

Trump is such a goddamm fucking idiot. He was given the world, and he gave back far, far, far less than nothing.

A silver spoon in trade for a dumpster fire of his own creation.

A kingdom in exchange for rot, disease, and chaos.

A curse upon this creature. May he writhe as he dies within his final resting place. May the reaper give no mercy on this plague that has been given to humanity.

May he damn those that helped this disease upon the earth. May they all die within the fires of their creation.

Rise up. Stand tall. We, the people, have demanded more from our leaders. Long Live the kind, gentle, and generous. We shall inherit the Earth.

[-] ChickenLadyLovesLife@lemmy.world 25 points 6 days ago

Trump was born on third base and claims he scored a touchdown.

[-] visnae@lemmy.world 16 points 6 days ago

Maybe he just want American car manufacturers to make 50% smaller cars instead of the huge trucks? America could be a world leader of smart cars

[-] freddydunningkruger@lemmy.world 4 points 6 days ago

Hahahaha sure. You're so smart. This has all been a secret master plan by Trump to manipulate US car manufacturers, Soviet-style, into capturing the lucrative, highly-desired Smart Car market, which was discotinued in the US in 2019 due to poor sales! Hahahaha

[-] melsaskca@lemmy.ca 14 points 6 days ago

Being President finally showed us that he was lying about being a "deal artist" all this time.

[-] sulgoth@lemmy.world 13 points 6 days ago

No, I think anyone who was paying him any mind knew. It's just his biggest claim to fame before his presidency was a mediocre TV personality.

[-] Zron@lemmy.world 9 points 6 days ago

He failed to sell steaks and casinos(yes multiple casinos) to Americans.

You know what Americans fucking love? Steak and the distant chance of becoming rich through no effort.

You know how badly you’d have to mismanage a casino to cause it to go bankrupt? It’s a building where people willing go to get blind drunk and give you money. If you owned a money printer, I don’t know if you could make as much money as a casino can per day.

He’s been a moron for decades. He just used Daddies money to buy his way into pop culture. He’s Paris Hilton but replace the tits and drug use with being a sad loser who couldn’t sell shit to a fly.

[-] nuko147@lemmy.world 11 points 6 days ago

The tariff on Steel in USA is very very old (1800s). It was to protect their own production, which would plummet if the tariff was not existed. I think after WW2 remained very low (5%), only to reappear temporarily in 2000s and permanently with the 1st Trump presidency, which Biden kept and now Trump has doubled.

Ofc the reappear of tariffs on Steel made the Steel prices get higher (huge spikes after new tariffs and higher average price in the long term) and all the products made of it. So prepare for American cars price hike.

[-] Heikki2@lemmy.world 9 points 6 days ago

The secret behind this jenus deal is that he isn't in prison for fraud

[-] DeathByBigSad@sh.itjust.works 6 points 6 days ago

One for $2, Two for $5, very good deal

Dont forget you're also paying 50% for your aluminium in the US because youre tariffing Canada on it, and you get almost all of it from Canada.

So that 25% car parts is compounded by the +50% on that.

[-] perviouslyiner@lemmy.world 22 points 1 week ago

...and on your electric ["hydro"] bill, if Canada doesn't just completely shut off your electricity!

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[-] friend_of_satan@lemmy.world 58 points 1 week ago

This isn't the science of the deal, it's the art of the deal. Is it making you feel something, even if that feeling is not positive? That's art. It doesn't have to make sense. That's art.

[-] avattar@lemmy.sdf.org 8 points 6 days ago

It's performative art, even.

[-] Peppycito@sh.itjust.works 5 points 6 days ago

C'est n'est pas une bilateral trade agreement.

[-] friend_of_satan@lemmy.world 4 points 6 days ago
[-] JasonDJ@lemmy.zip 3 points 6 days ago

Non, c'est juste Chuck Testa.

[-] miss_demeanour@lemmy.dbzer0.com 51 points 1 week ago

"It's not a tax! Countries will just eat the tariffs!"
-- maga business graduates not knowing "margins"

[-] toiletobserver@lemmy.world 17 points 1 week ago

It's not a dick, it's a mouth based video game

[-] resipsaloquitur@lemmy.world 47 points 1 week ago

He’s collecting bribes from foreign companies and countries. And some domestic companies.

That’s it. There’s no 5d chess here.

[-] breecher@sh.itjust.works 4 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago)

An extra bonus for him is when foreign leaders brownnose him on camera, that tickles his pathological narcissism. But yeah, the grifting is his main purpose by far.

The other bit is that Peter Navarro hates Canada.

[-] NigelFrobisher@aussie.zone 43 points 1 week ago

Actually you won’t have to pay a 15% tariff. Americans will. And you can still sell into any other market with a trade agreement.

[-] JumpyWombat@lemmy.ml 25 points 6 days ago

Isn't it wild how so many Americans do not understand how tariffs work?

[-] ChickenLadyLovesLife@lemmy.world 26 points 6 days ago

I "won" a bet with a coworker over the argument of whether tariffs were a tax or not. I put "won" in ironic quotes because the fucker refused to pay up despite being shown that "tariff" is in fact a synonym for "tax". He called the thesaurus "fake news".

[-] MBech@feddit.dk 11 points 6 days ago

Can't argue with stupid people.

[-] Tiger666@lemmy.ca 4 points 6 days ago

Another maga chud I see.

[-] peetabix@sh.itjust.works 7 points 1 week ago

Well if they make and sell within the EU it would be even easier.

[-] masterspace@lemmy.ca 43 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Its wild, Biden was like "I'm saving the world" and then slapped tariffs on cheap EVs rather than match subsidies, ensuring the survival of gas cars and destruction of the planet, for the benefit of American manufacturing.

Trump is like "I'm saving America" and just fucking over everyone.

[-] LifeInMultipleChoice@lemmy.world 1 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago)

Subsidies would have been great, but the practice appears to be much different. The tariffs you are talking about stemmed from a US trade representative investigation request that was initiated in 2018. As part of the 1974 Trade Act (section 301) retaliation measures are are allowed by the executive branch and comically tariffs are never mentioned as a retaliatory measure by name until 2018 really. For example tariffs are mentioned 24 times in the Congress.gov section 301 overview. https://www.congress.gov/crs-product/IF11346

Tariffs were never mentioned in 301 prior to that. https://usinfo.org/law/majorlaws/301.htm

Using section 301 in the format we have it now in my interpretation is that "retaliatory" measures can be taken globally or against an individual country as per the reviewed and debated investigations findings... But subsidies aren't a form of retaliation, and therefore would fall outside section 301 and require legislative approval. Which is what Biden should have faught. If he could have substantiated an argument that subsidies are a form of retaliation, maybe he could have performed them without congressional approval. It's a hard maybe though.

He should have had the executive branch conclude no retaliatory action was necessary as tariffs would have potentially caused further damage to the U.S. economy and trade. Thereby ending the USTRs investigation/fundings as something that shouldn't be addressed by the executive branch and forced the legislative branch to address it by encouraging such subsidies. They probably weren't going to go anywhere do to Congress being split but it may have helped stifle tarrifs being a standardized retaliatory act in our current era of trade agreements.

[-] Saleh@feddit.org 22 points 1 week ago

Trump might contribute more to saving the world by downsizing the US economy in the end.

Not that he would do so intentionally.

[-] notarobot@lemmy.zip 23 points 1 week ago

The pitch is "go broke, because the rules are changing week by week and choosing either could mean losing massive amounts of money. You may be better off quitting while you are ahead."

[-] Mirshe@lemmy.world 12 points 1 week ago

"Go broke so my corporate raider friends can buy up GM and sell it for parts", because all the corporate raiders forgot that you actually have to have someone who WANTS the product you're selling. Toyota or whoever isn't going to want GM's manufacturing arm in America because of those tariffs.

Toyota will want the real estate and factories, at least. One thing we're still good at in the US is paving over former EPA superfund sites and protected wetlands and cheaply erecting huge, inadequately-ventilated industrial buildings.

[-] Sanctus@lemmy.world 19 points 1 week ago
[-] Embargo@lemmy.zip 10 points 1 week ago

Workers of the world, unite!

[-] Bonus@piefed.social 19 points 1 week ago
[-] JumpyWombat@lemmy.ml 5 points 6 days ago
[-] Bonus@piefed.social 1 points 6 days ago

Just what we were expecting but even stupider.

[-] N0t_5ure@lemmy.world 15 points 1 week ago

Canada applied reciprocal tariffs on American made cars that boosted the cost of a Tesla Model Y by about $20K, so Musk turned to Tesla's German production and imported the cars from there instead, and dropped the price back down to what it was.

[-] vivalapivo@lemmy.today 14 points 1 week ago

Steel is extremely cheap compared to the car.

A metric ton of hrc steel costs like $800 - that's $400 added value to the end product.

A car costs like $30k. 15% is like $4.5k of the added value. The argument doesn't stand

What's really the problem is that the supply chain might cross the border a few times. That's what was the intent for the tarifs.

Stop thinking about the orange clown's government as the dumb villains from done kind of comedy. They are our political opponents

They are our political opponents

Yes, like the Nazis were the Jews' political opponents.

[-] vivalapivo@lemmy.today 3 points 6 days ago

Yes. Politics of utter violence is still politics

I guess "genocide is politics by other means" works.

[-] darkdemize@sh.itjust.works 7 points 1 week ago

The two aren't mutually exclusive.

[-] Milk_Sheikh@lemmy.dbzer0.com 6 points 1 week ago

It’s still a losing proposition, even if you don’t already have a factory in [insert country]. Steel is cheap yes, the value add comes from labor and capex payback yes, but there’s more than just metal that makes a car go vroom .

25% tariff on car parts

Ca parts could be anything from plastic fan ducting or the infotainment screen, or major components like engines and drivetrains. The majority of which is plastics/polymers and aluminum. The engine has steel sure, but the aluminum block is the most expensive part, while steel con-rods, crankshafts, and gears aren’t exactly an easy thing to set up a new factory in order to duck tariffs - tariffs that have been proven to come and go over social media beef.

So while it’s impossible to truly know the full BoM cost without seeing each component category’s HTS codes and how each maker sources their parts, I’d still wager that the 15% is the better pathway. Especially if you already have a factory, a known and trained labor pool, established transit and vendor links, etc

What it’ll definitely have more impact upon is expensive or luxury brands, because the material cost doesn’t scale with the sticker price the consumer sees.

[-] Windex007@lemmy.world 2 points 1 week ago

You saying Ford is paying $800 per ton for the formed steel they use in their vehicles?

Well the F150 is an aluminum frame so that's 50% tariffs from Canada. Not sure about the rest

[-] vivalapivo@lemmy.today 3 points 1 week ago

Idk how much they pay. The price is significantly lower than the price of the car by 2 orders of magnitude

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