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submitted 1 week ago by pylapp@programming.dev to c/privacy@lemmy.ml

About the Online Safety Act in the UK and the Digital Services Act in Europe

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[-] Xaphanos@lemmy.world 67 points 1 week ago

I've already said goodbye to "the internet" 3 times. Social media destroyed web 2.0, which destroyed the original web, which destroyed the original Usenet and telnet internet.

[-] traceur201@piefed.social 19 points 1 week ago

coming from a conservative media outlet instantly tanks any claim's credibility imo

[-] skarn@discuss.tchncs.de 10 points 1 week ago

I have read maybe half, and the cringe in this piece is intense.

Imagine plauding Musk’s commitment to maintaining free speech on X.

I mean, there are problem with the DSA and there are plenty with Online Safety Act, but maybe try to SIMP for fascist Big Tech a little more discreetly?

[-] makingStuffForFun@lemmy.ml 46 points 1 week ago

"What we are witnessing right now is the death of the free internet and the birth of a new digital dictatorship. No longer can we be trusted to decide for ourselves what content is appropriate or correct. Everything must instead be filtered through the state’s definition of ‘safety,’ telling us what is safe to say, see, or believe. Under the guise of protecting children and fighting ‘hate,’ governments are creating the most comprehensive censorship apparatus the West has ever seen."

[-] Jason2357@lemmy.ca 7 points 1 week ago

Nothing to do with the states definition of safety, but just an excuse to do more surveillance and collect more data.

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[-] timmytbt@sh.itjust.works 32 points 1 week ago

Same shit coming to Australia

[-] Scrollone@feddit.it 14 points 1 week ago

We're so fucked and people don't even realize that.

[-] root@aussie.zone 10 points 1 week ago

The enshittification of life as we know it.

[-] JSGale@beehaw.org 25 points 1 week ago

Everytime I hear about some draconian internet law it's always coming out of the UK.

[-] CrabAndBroom@lemmy.ml 8 points 1 week ago

I have a long-running theory that we're the US's testing ground for authoritarian nonsense. If they roll it out here and it doesn't get too much resistance, it'll show up in the US in the next 3-5 years.

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[-] Samsy@lemmy.ml 18 points 1 week ago

Bender-Meme:

*Selfhosters: I build my own Internet With Blackjack and Hookers

[-] bridgeenjoyer@sh.itjust.works 5 points 1 week ago

You joke but it would be great if we could restart the web. No bots, no corps, you have to be a nerd to get in. Maybe some specific protocol where you need a certain modem to access it, to keep other people out...

Maybe this is what the dark web is? I haven't dabbled.

[-] NicolaHaskell@lemmy.ml 9 points 1 week ago

Elites abandoning a world they judged unworthy in favor of vendor lock-in sounds pretty dark to me

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[-] merde@sh.itjust.works 14 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

this community is dead, the day Canada, U.S. and Eu asks lemmy to "verify" our ages

or we're all on a vpn connected to a server in ??? Mongolia?

[-] swelter_spark@reddthat.com 1 points 6 days ago

I already use tor to connect to Lemmy.

[-] merde@sh.itjust.works 1 points 6 days ago

Tor won't help if the instance is in U.K. (or soon Canada &c) and responsible for "verifying your age"

[-] 14th_cylon@lemmy.zip 2 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago)

it is not helping him now, so at least he will be familiar with that feeling 😂

[-] swelter_spark@reddthat.com 1 points 4 days ago

I guess the instance needs to use tor too.

[-] UltraMagnus0001@lemmy.world 14 points 1 week ago

Is it possible to start a new one?

[-] Scrollone@feddit.it 17 points 1 week ago

The problem is not the internet itself. If you started a new internet protocol, you'd still be controlled by the same laws

[-] Jankatarch@lemmy.world 10 points 1 week ago
[-] XTL@sopuli.xyz 6 points 1 week ago

IRC doesn't handle being disconnected. That's why matrix has essentially replaced it

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[-] Bubbaonthebeach@lemmy.ca 12 points 1 week ago

Personally I believe the world was a better place before the Internet existed. It was more personal, more local. The billionaire tech class was created by the Internet and are actively damaging the world for their own personal gain. Good mental health is almost non-existent for those who are always online - and that is a purposeful construct so that they will be online more and create even more revenue for the tech billionaires. The initial romantic notion that the internet would provide education and information and connection has been dwarfed by the damage it has caused. The most 'internet raised generation - Gen Z' is notoriously disconnected and isolated compared to previous generations. In short, if the Internet ceased to exist tomorrow, a decade from now the world would probably be a better place.

[-] Majestic@lemmy.ml 19 points 1 week ago

The billionaire tech class was created by the Internet and are actively damaging the world for their own personal gain.

I hate to tell you but there were billionaires and multi-millionaires way before the internet and they were damaging the world horrendously for greed and personal gain. They even have this system structured around allowing them to do that called capitalism.

So no the internet didn't create that. Capitalism created that. Just as it created the climate change denial oil industry and the people who made money off of destroying the planet with that and would still be doing so without the internet. Just as it made dishonest press barons who loved Nazi Germany such as Randolph Hearst way before the internet existed and for a more modern example Rupert Murdoch. Just as before that it created incentives to hide and denial tobacco caused cancer or that asbestos caused cancer and other diseases or that lead poisoned us especially children. And on and on. Or the Triangle Shirt-waist fire and thousands of incidents just like that around the world where people are killed in poorly maintained factories kept that way out of greed. Or companies that pump poison into the water and air because it's cheaper. I could go on forever.

[-] phx@lemmy.ca 16 points 1 week ago

Yeah I'd say capitalism ruined the Internet, rather than the other way around. Early Internet was janky but amazing

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[-] Zacryon@feddit.org 13 points 1 week ago

The billionaire tech class was created by the Internet

No. You had tech billionaires before the internet as well.

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[-] Misk@lemmy.world 11 points 1 week ago

I thought I was the only one pondering on this. It's been a wild ride and I'm so glad I got to take part in the 90s, when web 1.0 was wild and free. What a blast that was.

But it's over now, we've ruined it, like we ruin everything, and I hope soon we'll all be collectively ready as a species to dance on the grave of our dead internet.

F

[-] etherphon@piefed.world 5 points 1 week ago

I had such high hopes for the internet, I met and spoke with people from all over the world, real life was obsolete so I put all my time into being online because it was so much easier to talk to people and make friends online back then. I made a huge mistake.

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[-] burgerchurgarr@lemmus.org 10 points 1 week ago

Europeanconservative, really?

[-] ztwhixsemhwldvka@lemmy.world 19 points 1 week ago

It's encouraging to see support for anti-censorship across the political spectrum

[-] yogthos@lemmy.ml 7 points 1 week ago

Funny how freeze peach sublimates directly into censorship vapor the moment liberals lose their cultural hegemony.

[-] PhilipTheBucket@quokk.au 12 points 1 week ago

Dude you're on the instance where it is forbidden in worldnews to say "Fuck (a particular country which will remain nameless)".

Literally the only one. You can say "Fuck the United States" or "Fuck Israel" everywhere on Lemmy, or near enough, which of course is as it should be. But if I start stepping on the wrong massive state actors' toes from one particular instance...

[-] yogthos@lemmy.ml 6 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

The difference is that communists accept the need for censorship and are open about why some ideas need to be suppressed. However, liberals hypocritically claim to stand for free speech and claim this is the key differentiating factor between liberal democracies and socialist systems, but only tolerate speech that they deem acceptable.

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[-] Manifish_Destiny@lemmy.world 7 points 1 week ago

Wait I don't understand. Did they cancel https? How about ftp? Ssh?

Or are they requiring some half baked bullshit in a browser to catch the lowest common denominator?

[-] CrabAndBroom@lemmy.ml 12 points 1 week ago

Half-baked bullshit. You can get around it with a VPN or a copy of Death Stranding 2

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