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[-] surph_ninja@lemmy.world 49 points 3 days ago

I really didn’t appreciate how bad it was, until I witnessed my wife being subjected to this shit.

One time I was playing Star Trek: Bridge Crew with a couple randos. We’d been playing for at least half an hour, and they seemed like nice guys. My wife had just finished watching all of TNG, and she excitedly asked if she could try playing for a round.

The moment my wife’s voice hit the mic, these two neckbeards turned into complete pieces of shit, and started right in on harassing her and talking down. I watched her face sink. She took off the vr headset, and hasn’t touched it since. I don’t think she’s even watched Star Trek since, it was such a sour experience.

And these were the stereotypical ‘I struggle with women’ type of neckbeards. No shit. Maybe if you didn’t treat them as subhuman, one of them might speak to you.

[-] Genius@lemmy.zip 33 points 3 days ago

They don't struggle with women. Struggling implies making an effort. They're just losers.

[-] CatDogL0ver@lemmy.world 36 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

I remember an E-Game tournament and the last round was a male player vs a female player.

The guy twitted he was going to r*** her [in the game].

Later he defended himself that r*** word is commonly used by online [male] players and people were too serious.

He was disqualified instantly

That's online gamer toxic masculinity.

That must havd been so disappointing; an opponent losing so hard you don't even get to win.

[-] yermaw@sh.itjust.works 49 points 3 days ago

I used to hate when a woman would join our party, because suddenly all the men would be trying to knock eachother down and act up to impress her, and whatever happy little unity we had would crumble quickly.

No fault of the woman's, she just wants to play the game like the rest of us, but as soon as I hear a girls voice I groan inside and "oh here we fucking go"

[-] lousyd@lemmy.sdf.org 21 points 3 days ago

When I'm in a male dominated space and a woman joins, I feel myself over-compensating in trying to be welcoming to the woman. I want to be the "good guy". I sort of feel like I should make that effort. But also I'd rather just get on with it and not have to think about it.

[-] papalonian@lemmy.world 12 points 3 days ago

Yup, same boat. I want to make sure they feel welcomed to the group but I don't want to make them feel like an "other"

[-] outhouseperilous@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

Insyead try being the bad guy to the other guys. It's more welcoming a lot of the time and focuses on the axtual problem.

[-] SonOfAntenora@lemmy.world 1 points 2 days ago

I'm either good enough to play a game rather good or absolutely painfully unaware of how to handle it, I don't have the time to be hateful towards other players at all, not that I want that.

Sometimes you just need to change game or stop playing before acting like a terrible person. Nobody is that terrible they usually learn it. Competitive games are breeding ground for this logic as they reward toxicity more or less openly.

If you're turned off by this, good. It means you have standards. I know we like to keep mentioning these mw2 lobbies, but in comparison with this they were tame. The hatred on these platforms feels more real than what it used to be.

[-] Gaja0@lemmy.zip 5 points 3 days ago

It physically hurts to recall starving for the attention of a member of the opposite sex.

[-] CatDogL0ver@lemmy.world 4 points 3 days ago

What game? Most competitive e game guy players iI have encountered are hostile to women players.

[-] yermaw@sh.itjust.works 4 points 3 days ago

MMOs mostly, Rappelz I spent the most time in. I noticed it a lot in Destiny raids too though.

I almost never partied up in competitive games. You only get to get a team wanting to stay together after you have a really good game, and thats only ever because the enemy team sucked. As soon as you come up against a team better than the one you built your fairweather friends turn nasty.

[-] daannii@lemmy.world 20 points 3 days ago

Misogyny, not unlike racism or other forms of bigotry are all forms of insecurity.

I think a lot of people have noticed this but it's surprising how many people haven't.

It seems pretty obvious. It's a big red flag. Bigots try to hurt others to feel superior. And they always go after the person in the vicinity that they think will give them the least challenge.

This is why it's up to the rest of us to call them out. Make it so they fear the retribution from harassing others.

[-] ArgumentativeMonotheist@lemmy.world 56 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

"Misogyny is a skill issue".

Women-hating PUAs/incels explained succinctly! But when the average man in your community has that 'skill issue', it becomes a cultural problem.

[-] dandelion 8 points 3 days ago

so the solution to misogyny is to git gud?

Probably more like "be wise enough to understand the world and yourself without feeling overwhelmed by it" because almost invariably the reason people have so much venom for the "other" is due to their own insecurities and misconceptions ("if I make you feel bad about yourself and you accept it/don't fight it, I'm better than you and that gives me enough fuel not to collapse"), but I guess 'skill issue' is succint, lol.

[-] stratoscaster@lemmy.world 2 points 2 days ago

I would say it's both that and also the world just not caring about them, and misogynistic red pill communities pretending to care and have all the answers

[-] Krudler@lemmy.world 16 points 2 days ago

Try working in social services.

All female-dominated services and agencies, the hatred against men is appalling.

The irony is so thick you could cut it with a knife.

In short, all systems of power, regardless of the identity of the people who make up those systems, reject ANYTHING that disrupts it.

[-] bees@sh.itjust.works 3 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

Nursing in particular is known to have this problem… wish everyone could be nicer to each other :/

[-] ZILtoid1991@lemmy.world 19 points 3 days ago

The funny thing is, that's also why we have separate male-female sports categories in all of sports. Back then it was not only easier for women to compete against men due to less advanced nutrition and sports science, but also men placing behind women were also furious, and men regularly got beaten in chess, etc.

[-] outhouseperilous@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

Chess is a fun case. There's an unmarked leage and a cis-women's league (last i heard they were terfing hard, i guess trans somen have a natural advantage or something?), and the latter was originally to cut harassment.

[-] dimjim@sh.itjust.works 19 points 3 days ago

"Misogyny is a skill issue?".

👨‍🚀 🔫👨‍🚀 "Always has been."

[-] MissJinx@lemmy.world 13 points 3 days ago

I mean any women knows this.

Sure, but studies like this can still be useful for proving it when it counts. Anecdotal evidence isn’t exactly the most reliable, so having controlled studies with actual numbers can be valuable as references when examining things critically.

Yeah but they're more useful for convincing people than scientific studies.

[-] Apytele@sh.itjust.works 33 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

I read a book a while back that was called a "guide to mating" or something that was actually pretty decent and included some very objectively anthropological / sociological explanations of why if you're ugly you better at least be a good person. "Well why should I have you be nice if the hot guys don't?" Look dude do you wanna fuck or not? Weird that some guys will only hear that from another man but...

[-] NoneOfUrBusiness@fedia.io 51 points 3 days ago

If someone needs to be promised sex to be a good person, it's likely they'll simply never be a good person.

[-] Genius@lemmy.zip 4 points 3 days ago

Well that's the plot of season 1 of The Good Place. Can someone become good for selfish reasons? Can it become a matter of habit to the point it's no longer selfish? Or will their motivation always be corrupt?

[-] Talaraine@fedia.io 27 points 3 days ago

And here I am reminiscing about THIS being our greatest problem in society.

[-] manigordo@lemy.lol 10 points 3 days ago

Not the greatest perhaps, but a problem still.

[-] TankovayaDiviziya@lemmy.world 19 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

Who knew it is all about asserting dominance. There is a study which showed monkeys with small penises howl the loudest. Not too dissimilar from humans who loves to overcompensate.

edit: wording

[-] surewhynotlem@lemmy.world 9 points 3 days ago

Do they also get to be president? Or is that purely a human problem?

[-] sykaster@feddit.nl 6 points 3 days ago

Most of them buy huge 4x4 pickup trucks

[-] hydroptic@sopuli.xyz 3 points 2 days ago

Not every day you see a monkey driving a pickup

[-] FuckFascism@lemmy.world 7 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

Damn, bro got skill checked, got no diffed, got glizzied on, got slam dunked, misogyny: 0 everyone else: 1

[-] Ziglin@lemmy.world 3 points 3 days ago

What on earth does the middle of that even mean? Urban dictionary was able to help a little with "glizzy" but I couldn't find a way to turn into a verb that makes sense. No clue what "no diffed" is supposed to mean. Diff as in difference?

I like to think there's glitter involved.

[-] SGforce@lemmy.ca 2 points 3 days ago

Difficulty?

[-] DrunkAnRoot@sh.itjust.works 1 points 2 days ago

this is sad

[-] VegasVator@lemmy.world 1 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

Opinion. Not a "gamer fact". Screen shot this comment and repost it somewhere else to add to the social-mediacepion. Is it possible the 'higher-skilled", again an opinion, players have a different common factor? Like maybe age. Maybe people who suck at games just talk more shit because they suck. Sure thing with the "gamer fact"

[-] agavaa@lemmy.world 19 points 3 days ago

It's a study; I imagine they controlled for age and other factors if the article states the study "found", not "suggested" or similar looser term. It's not an opinion, but a result of a scientific process. Your dislike for term "gamer fact", even if it's a bit cringe, doesn't change that.

[-] Tar_alcaran@sh.itjust.works 8 points 3 days ago

The observations are a fact, the 2nd part is a possible explanation that you could call an opinion.

Is it possible the 'higher-skilled", again an opinion, players have a different common factor? Like maybe age.

Ok, but that doesn't change it

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