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[-] Triasha@lemmy.world 46 points 6 days ago

If you do it every time, you won't forget when it's important.

[-] imetators@lemmy.dbzer0.com 22 points 6 days ago

My friend complained that there is no reason to use turn signal to show me parking on the side of the remote road in the middle of the night. I just said "It's a muscle memory". Later he bought himself BMW and things came clear.

[-] recklessengagement@lemmy.world 26 points 6 days ago
[-] skozzii@lemmy.ca 1 points 6 days ago

I've had this happen 10+ times in my life, so always look both ways.

[-] Lightfire228@pawb.social 1 points 6 days ago

I have done this

I had my license maybe a year, and i had gotten lost downtown at night.

I came to a T intersection, with a one way road, but couldn't figure out which direction to go. I panicked and picked a direction

I only realized when i saw a row of headlights heading my way

[-] ceiphas@feddit.org 21 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago)

I had an ambulance driving the wrong direction twice already, i keep looking both ways, thank you

[-] Zron@lemmy.world 2 points 6 days ago

Cops around here do it all the time.

There’s a one way at the end of my block, and I see at least 2 cops a week go down it the wrong way with no lights or sirens.

[-] JackbyDev@programming.dev 22 points 6 days ago

You never fucking know, dude. Better to be safe than sorry. The other driver can be at fault and still leave you with a permanent disability.

[-] ExLisper@lemmy.curiana.net 24 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago)

One word: bicycles

Two words: electric scooters

[-] art@lemmy.world 20 points 6 days ago

You forgot dipshit drivers.

[-] JackbyDev@programming.dev 9 points 6 days ago

Three words: dip shit drivers.

Four words: I can't spell well.

[-] Wolf314159@startrek.website 7 points 6 days ago

Bicycles (and electric scooters) are vehicles that should also be following the same rules as car, i.e. not driving the wrong way down a one way street and not bombing down the sidewalk. I mean, I still look both ways, but that's because people are dumb maniacs on the road, not because bicycles.

[-] AeonFelis@lemmy.world 2 points 6 days ago
[-] Alexstarfire@lemmy.world 19 points 6 days ago

I've seen my fair share of people driving the wrong way on one-way roads. Can't rely on people following the rules.

[-] RagingRobot@lemmy.world 1 points 6 days ago

Rules are meant to be broken

[-] SaintNyx@lemmy.world 8 points 6 days ago

The anecdote my dad always told me was being smart is knowing it's a one way street, being wise is looking both ways anyways

[-] RagingRobot@lemmy.world 8 points 6 days ago

I always do this because I have gone down too many one way streets and found someone else going the wrong way. It's not uncommon

[-] GreenKnight23@lemmy.world 4 points 5 days ago

I live on a one way street. the amount of times people go the wrong way is too high.

[-] KenOh@feddit.online 3 points 6 days ago
[-] empireOfLove2@lemmy.dbzer0.com 50 points 1 week ago

You should always be looking both ways, if not for vehicles, then at least for pedestrians who have no direction.

[-] CarbonatedPastaSauce@lemmy.world 37 points 1 week ago

Yeah well looking the 'wrong' way on a 1 way street has stopped me from getting run over, and looking both ways before going on the green has saved my life from a red light runner when I was on my motorcycle.

[-] Catoblepas@piefed.blahaj.zone 18 points 1 week ago

You basically need to assume everyone in a car is an axe wielding maniac out to kill you if you’re on a motorcycle. I had a family member crash after a driver didn’t look left before pulling out of a driveway and put them out of commission for a few months, plus some new hardware. Stay safe!

That attitude has kept me alive for 23 years of riding. Many have tried to kill me, but I saw most of them coming and got lucky the couple times I didn't.

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[-] 7U5K3N@lemmy.dbzer0.com 29 points 1 week ago

Almost died once to a woman going 75 on the wrong side of the 4 lane divided road. I dodged her but she hit a car behind me. :/

Always. Look. Both. Ways.

[-] Deestan@lemmy.world 22 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

This is actually a good tool to explain the difference between those RPG stats that can be easy to mix up:

Perception is noticing you are crossing a one-way street.

Intelligence is understanding cars are only allowed to come from one direction.

Wisdom is looking in both directions before crossing anyway.

[-] jjjalljs@ttrpg.network 11 points 1 week ago

Dexterity is avoiding getting hit by the asshole going the wrong way down the street

Strength is dragging them out of the car afterwards

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[-] Empricorn@feddit.nl 14 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Pedestrians and cyclists exist. Even on 2-way roads I've personally almost been run over multiple times on the right side of the road. A vehicle would drive up to the stop sign, look left, see no vehicles, then almost hit me as they turned right because they didn't actually look where they were going...

[-] partial_accumen@lemmy.world 14 points 1 week ago

You have to look the other way anyway in case there might be pedestrians or cyclists crossing your path.

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[-] AHorseWithNoNeigh@lemmy.dbzer0.com 14 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Being in a situation where I was on the highway being passed by an on coming car on the same side... you ALWAYS look both ways. Stupidity has no bounds.

[-] Voyajer@lemmy.world 7 points 1 week ago

I've seen enough vehicles driving the wrong direction that I'm not risking it.

[-] PattyMcB@lemmy.world 6 points 1 week ago

Considering some of the horrible drivers out there, this isn't a bad idea

[-] Landless2029@lemmy.world 5 points 1 week ago* (last edited 5 days ago)

Sharing a cautionary tale from personal experience: always look both ways carefully

The first year I got my license (15+ years ago) I looked one way then the other. Rolled forward. Hit a cyclist that was riding full speed on the sidewalk in the wrong direction. Bent front tire and they lost balance. I immediately got to to apologize and ensure she was OK. Offered to call an ambulance, friend, ride to her destination or even a taxi. She declined all of it and ensured she wasn't injured. We exchanged information.

Got them to a bank and ~~Throw them~~ settled for $200 to repair/replace her bike then made them sign a waiver of liability with no fault admitted. She didn't like signing the paper and I told her $200 now and sign or go through my car insurance.

Worth the $200 to ~~make it go away~~ avoid insurance bs.

I always look both ways and glace down the damn sidewalk too for cyclists now.


Edited for clarity.

Full account:

These events happened over the course of two weeks. I didn't think I'd be scrutinized this much over sharing my experience.

Crashed into a cyclist while I was going 5 or 10 mph. No idea how fast she was going but I looked right and didn't see anyone. Then left and rolled forward. Then bent her front tire and she dismounted. My car got up to her front axle.

I immediately got out. Apologized. Asked if she was OK. Offered to call ambulance, taxi or friend. She was upset (rightfully so) but we exchanged info and I gave her my insurance. She turned down my offer to call anyone for assistance or give her a ride to her destination.

I opened a claim with my insurance immediately. Gave my statement. Told them idk what she wants to do but I'm covering my bases.

I called her 3 days later. Asked how she was doing. She said she was a little sore but fine. Didn't go to the hospital. I told her I opened a claim and got a PIP if she needs medical attention. She reassured she was physically fine. I offered $200 to repair/replace the bicycle and she accepted. I told her I'd reach out to schedule it later andy insurance was going to call her for a statement. She agreed.

Told my family about the crash. Glad she was OK. Family warned me to be careful she doesn't continue the claim after getting cash. This is maybe a week later. I consulted a lawyer and they said a letter with XYZ would cover me legally. I also happened to run into a cop at a coffee shop and asked him his opinion. He said it was hard to say but from his perspective I wasn't at fault.

I scheduled a meet up a week after the accident. Set the location near her at a bank. Safe public place. Presented her with the money order and waiver of liability. She initially didn't want to sign so I explained my side.

It's just to cover me so she doesn't continue the insurance claim or sue me after the payment. If she's concerned about anything long term she can continue with the insurance claim or take a payment now with a waiver and we go our separate ways. She wasn't happy with signing a waiver but wanted this behind her so she signed (notorized by the bank) and took the payment.

I really didn't want to say all that because it's a wall of text but being downvoted and attacked for sharing my experience is going to remind me to keep my damn mouth shut.

[-] Zagorath@aussie.zone 6 points 6 days ago

You were 100% liable for hitting a cyclist and you cheerfully admit to paying them off with a pittance of the damage you caused and forcing them to sign away their rights? That's pretty fucking shitty.

At least your last paragraph makes it sound like you learnt from the behaviour that led to your mistake in the first place.

[-] sem 2 points 6 days ago

In America that waiver might have been unenforceable... Or one would hope.

[-] Landless2029@lemmy.world 1 points 6 days ago

Nope. It was enforceable. Consulted a lawyer. Standard for cash settlements actually. Any time you settle a claim outside of insurance you should have one. Otherwise they could file a claim immediately after getting the cash.

Same shit corps do with "out of court" settlements when someone sues and has a good case to win.

[-] sem 2 points 6 days ago

Seems crazy that you got to a bank and got a lawyer so fast. But it's stuff like this that convinced me to not ride on the sidewalk, even though it's legal where I live. Drivers just don't see you.

When a lady hit my brother doing the same thing (except we saw her not look in our direction) his bike was messed up but she just left and we were kids so we didn't know to do anything different.

[-] Landless2029@lemmy.world 1 points 6 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago)

These events happened over the course of two weeks. I didn't think I'd be scrutinized this much over sharing my experience.

Crashed into a cyclist while I was going 5 or 10 mph. No idea how fast she was going but I looked right and didn't see anyone. Then left and rolled forward. Then bent her front tire and she dismounted. My car got up to her front axle.

I immediately got out. Apologized. Asked if she was OK. Offered to call ambulance, taxi or friend. She was upset (rightfully so) but we exchanged info and I gave her my insurance. She turned down my offer to call anyone for assistance or give her a ride to her destination.

I opened a claim with my insurance immediately. Gave my statement. Told them idk what she wants to do but I'm covering my bases.

I called her 3 days later. Asked how she was doing. She said she was a little sore but fine. Didn't go to the hospital. I told her I opened a claim and got a PIP if she needs medical attention. She reassured she was physically fine. I offered $200 to repair/replace the bicycle and she accepted. I told her I'd reach out to schedule it later andy insurance was going to call her for a statement. She agreed.

Told my family about the crash. Glad she was OK. Family warned me to be careful she doesn't continue the claim after getting cash. This is maybe a week later. I consulted a lawyer and they said a letter with XYZ would cover me legally. I also happened to run into a cop at a coffee shop and asked him his opinion. He said it was hard to say but from his perspective I wasn't at fault.

I scheduled a meet up a week after the accident. Set the location near her at a bank. Safe public place. Presented her with the money order and waiver of liability. She initially didn't want to sign so I explained my side.

It's just to cover me so she doesn't continue the insurance claim or sue me after the payment. If she's concerned about anything long term she can continue with the insurance claim or take a payment now with a waiver and we go our separate ways. She wasn't happy with signing a waiver but wanted this behind her so she signed (notorized by the bank) and took the payment.

I really didn't want to say all that because it's a wall of text but being downvoted and attacked for sharing my experience is going to remind me to keep my damn mouth shut.

Edit: grammar

[-] sem 1 points 5 days ago

This detail is way more sympathetic than your first account.

Don't be too surprised people didn't like you running into a cyclist and paying them off.

[-] Landless2029@lemmy.world 1 points 5 days ago

Yeah it's completely valid once I reread my inital comment. I was running errands nonstop and did get why people were so upset.

[-] Landless2029@lemmy.world 1 points 6 days ago

Idk why my reply didn't save but:

I did everything by the book. Gave her my info and insurance. I opened a claim and had them take a statement from her.

I offered her a $200 settlement to replace/repair her bike and she accepted. I surprised her with a waiver of liability and gave her the choice of $200 now or continue with the claim.

I think I handled it very responsibly as my first incident in my early 20s.

Do I feel guilty for hurting someone? Yes absolutely. At the same time I'm allowed to be glad to avoid insurance bs.

I immediately became a safer driver and I hope she was also more careful about going full speed on the sidewalk in the wrong direction of traffic.

Oh and BTW we even had bicycle lanes on the street. In my state you're treated as a car if you're riding the bike. She wasn't following the rules of the road and probably would have gotten nothing through insurance. Everyone told me not to pay her off.

[-] Zagorath@aussie.zone 1 points 6 days ago

I hope she was also more careful about going full speed on the sidewalk in the wrong direction of traffic.

Literally victim blaming. It's completely normal to travel in either direction on the footpath.

we even had bicycle lanes on the street

Paint is not infrastructure.

[-] Landless2029@lemmy.world 1 points 6 days ago

I'm done with this thread. Real nice skipping the part about me learning from the experience.

You've already made your stance clear and this is an event from literally 16 years ago.

~~I've been in exactly 2 at fault accidents in those 16 years. This includes driving for 10 hours a day for years working on the road.~~

Yeah I'm done.

[-] Zagorath@aussie.zone 2 points 6 days ago

Your defensiveness doesn’t make it feel like you learnt from it. You might have learnt how to avoid that kind of crash (crash, not accident) in the future, which is fantastic, but you haven’t internalised that it was because of your own inattentiveness in operating a dangerous vehicle that the crash occurred, and not because of the perfectly acceptable behaviour from a member of a vulnerable group. A vulnerable group that you victimised.

[-] Landless2029@lemmy.world 1 points 6 days ago

You have a valid stance and I was driving irresponsibly. I've I have been a cyclist for 35 years. Going on trips driving for miles, so I understand.

You're not going to change my feelings over our matter that happened 16 years ago and it's in the past. I literally forgot about it until this thread. I only shared my story as a cautionary tale to other readers.

[-] Zagorath@aussie.zone 2 points 6 days ago

I only shared my story as a cautionary tale to other readers.

Genuinely, I appreciate that. The importance of looking both ways when approaching an intersection, even if the road is one way, is critical, for the safety of cyclists and pedestrians. Your goal in sharing the story was a good one. It's just the tone of how you told the story that seemed rather off.

[-] Landless2029@lemmy.world 2 points 6 days ago

I appreciate your comment and understanding. It's really my fault for trying to write a concise summary while I'm in line at the grocer.

Next time I'll make sure I'll just wait until I'm back on my PC or keep my mouth shut.

[-] Zagorath@aussie.zone 2 points 6 days ago

At the end of the day, whether or not you're at fault or not, and whether or not you acknowledge as much, doesn't really matter nearly as much as the fact that you're a safer driver today. That's what actually matters.

[-] Hawke@lemmy.world 2 points 6 days ago

on the sidewalk in the wrong direction.

There is no wrong direction on the sidewalk. Sidewalks are two-way.

[-] Landless2029@lemmy.world 1 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago)

Hey I'm a cyclist too and I agree. What i mean by wrong direction is against the flow of traffic. I looked right and saw nothing. Then left and rolled forward trying to get my chance to get into traffic. She came in front of me from the right.

Also that street has seperate two direction bike lanes.

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