1036
top 50 comments
sorted by: hot top controversial new old
[-] Zephorah@discuss.online 141 points 1 year ago

It will be very strange if jury nullification doesn’t happen.

[-] st3ph3n@midwest.social 99 points 1 year ago

I bet they do everything in their power to keep this from actually going to trial.

[-] breakingcups@lemmy.world 41 points 1 year ago

How long can they hold him without a trial?

[-] stupe@lemmy.zip 55 points 1 year ago

Depends on how he's classified. The US has held some terrorists indefinitely without charges or trial.

[-] SpaceNoodle@lemmy.world 39 points 1 year ago
[-] stupe@lemmy.zip 21 points 1 year ago

Putting quotes around the word doesn't change anything. He can still be designated a terrorist and held indefinitely without charge or trial.

I don't think he's a terrorist. But my opinion doesn't matter.

[-] SpaceNoodle@lemmy.world 12 points 1 year ago

My point is that it's just a magical justification for torture.

[-] Lyra_Lycan 15 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

They're just people. They always have been people who have been hurt and destroyed by the systems that pretend they didn't cause it. And America sure as shit isn't the authority on who's a terrorist

[-] SlartyBartFast@sh.itjust.works 6 points 1 year ago

I think they can send him to Gitmo or some other black site whenever, wherever

load more comments (2 replies)
[-] procrastitron@lemmy.world 37 points 1 year ago

I think it’s more likely that the jury will vote to acquit just based on lack of evidence combined with police misconduct (and incompetence).

The evidence they’ve publicly talked about is both itself fishy and has chain of custody issues.

Normally they’d be able to get away with that because most defendants can’t afford good legal representation and most cases don’t get much scrutiny.

In this case, however, I think those issues completely sink the prosecution’s case and he’ll be acquitted just because the jury won’t believe he’s guilty beyond a reasonable doubt.

[-] SkyezOpen@lemmy.world 18 points 1 year ago

If at least half of what his lawyer claimed is true and able to be proven in court, he has a decent chance.

load more comments (7 replies)
[-] ArmchairAce1944@discuss.online 29 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Luigi is innocent. Just from looking at the pics, the brows are different. Luigi didn't do it. Jury nullification is not needed. A simple acquittal is all that is needed.

[-] Zagorath@aussie.zone 24 points 1 year ago

The jury will be told that they have to find according to the letter of the law, and they'll almost certainly be screened by the prosecution during jury selection to avoid people who know nullification is a thing.

It's certainly possible that it could occur regardless, but they'll do everything they can to avoid it.

[-] Thedogdrinkscoffee@lemmy.ca 24 points 1 year ago

Prosecutor: Potential Juror #5. Are you aware of the concept of Jury Nullification?

Juror: I am now.

[-] Zephorah@discuss.online 8 points 1 year ago

How do you screen for jury nullification without informing everyone as to what jury nullification is?

load more comments (3 replies)
[-] samus12345@sh.itjust.works 18 points 1 year ago

12 jurors all being aware of it and wanting to do it is extremely unlikely, unfortunately.

[-] Revan343@lemmy.ca 21 points 1 year ago

Only one juror needs to be aware of it before the deliberation, the hard part is getting everyone to agree to it. Repeated trials with repeatedly hung juries would almost be better though

[-] Duamerthrax@lemmy.world 10 points 1 year ago

Having him be released under jury nullification would send a powerful message to the elites.

Honestly, an activist film maker should make a movie about how people arrested for helping fugitive slaves escape were often released under jury nullification. Get the idea out there.

load more comments (3 replies)
[-] Zephorah@discuss.online 5 points 1 year ago

My jury experience was not confidence inspiring. Granted, it was not high profile. It was a civil case that drug on for a week. Essentially, there were three of us that lead the decision by force of personality. Everyone else was waiting to go home.

load more comments (4 replies)
[-] Gorilladrums@lemmy.world 131 points 1 year ago

Basically to me it's like this: If there's no evidence to convict Luigi then that means he's innocent, therefore, free him. If there's evidence to convict him then he's a hero, therefore, free him.

the people who belong in jail are the healthcare CEOs

[-] some_designer_dude@lemmy.world 31 points 1 year ago

And the President, plus most of his posse.

load more comments (1 replies)
[-] Inucune@lemmy.world 20 points 1 year ago

I don't think the person that was arrested is the person who shot the healthcare guy. I think the cops grabbed a convinent person and planted evidence.

[-] Bubs12@lemmy.cafe 63 points 1 year ago

My guess is Bill Burr, based on nothing scientific.

[-] sad_detective_man@leminal.space 49 points 1 year ago

self defense against the 1% killing us isn't terrorism. free him

I think his best defence now would just be for everyone to start following in his footsteps. They are going to execute him no matter what

load more comments (1 replies)
[-] Nanook@lemmy.zip 44 points 1 year ago
[-] ArchmageAzor@lemmy.world 34 points 1 year ago

How much is $50k in legal money? Are we talking a game changer or enough to cover lunch?

[-] HasturInYellow@lemmy.world 31 points 1 year ago

He doesn't really need the money for the legal bills. His family has a good bit of money. But the gesture is nice and the money could be used for other things if they don't use it.

[-] Thedogdrinkscoffee@lemmy.ca 15 points 1 year ago
[-] HasturInYellow@lemmy.world 34 points 1 year ago

Maybe a 3D printer. To pursue his hobbies.

[-] Zink@programming.dev 8 points 1 year ago

You know that young man Luigi — such a good maker AND such a good taker!

[-] jaybone@lemmy.zip 5 points 1 year ago

I know he comes from money. But I thought he was kind of on awkward terms with them. Are they actually supporting his legal defense?

[-] HasturInYellow@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago

I haven't heard of any trouble between them? As far as I understand it they hadn't spoken for a few months but were worried and are helping his defense.

[-] TragicNotCute@lemmy.world 18 points 1 year ago

More than lunch, not a game changer.

Imagine $325-$500 an hour (I know this is general and broad).

[-] Dhar@lemmy.ca 24 points 1 year ago

"It's-a me, Mario!"

[-] Gustephan@lemmy.world 23 points 1 year ago

What a load of shit that they file the case as "people of NY against luigi." It's not the fucking people that have a problem with him, it's the parasites desperately running from the guillotine of consequences.

load more comments (2 replies)
[-] peaceful_world_view@lemmy.world 12 points 1 year ago

Support heroes like Luigi.

[-] ramenshaman@lemmy.world 8 points 1 year ago
[-] zebidiah@lemmy.ca 7 points 1 year ago

If I win the lottery, id throw a couple hundred grand at him....

load more comments
view more: next ›
this post was submitted on 17 Jul 2025
1036 points (100.0% liked)

Luigi Mangione

2852 readers
7 users here now

A community to post anything related to Luigi Mangione.

Please respect Lemmy.world ToS. Don't plot who should be murdered next in this community.

founded 2 years ago
MODERATORS