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[-] robocall@lemmy.world 65 points 3 weeks ago

"that guy called me a bitch after I shot him, now we're even"

[-] nroth@lemmy.world 41 points 3 weeks ago

I suppose Russia's invasion is definitely imperialism, but I don't see anyone saying both sides are at fault.

[-] Ilovethebomb@sh.itjust.works 73 points 3 weeks ago

Some of the nuttier members of the ML communities are definitely saying it.

[-] geneva_convenience@lemmy.ml 11 points 3 weeks ago

On the crosspost I'm seeing a single Feddit user saying it.

Which is in line with Feddit.org which supports Israel.

[-] Mrkawfee@lemmy.world 19 points 3 weeks ago

supporting Israel is a sign that the platform has been taken over by Hasbara bots.

[-] geneva_convenience@lemmy.ml 11 points 3 weeks ago

There's a surprising amount of Hasbara bots in this thread already.

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[-] regdog@lemmy.world 27 points 3 weeks ago

Then you don‘t consume enough right wing media

[-] geneva_convenience@lemmy.ml 25 points 3 weeks ago

Which might have tipped you off that this comic is not about Russia.

[-] spankmonkey@lemmy.world 42 points 3 weeks ago
[-] geneva_convenience@lemmy.ml 8 points 3 weeks ago

Russian is trying to annex Ukraine not colonize it.

[-] HK65@sopuli.xyz 38 points 3 weeks ago

They are attempting to do the same thing, to erase the national identity of the people living there and conquer the place.

Even the settlement thing matches, the Soviets used to move Russians into all the republics to erase national boundaries and make them all uniformly Russian.

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[-] VoteNixon2016 30 points 3 weeks ago

Good thing Hitler just wanted to annex the Sudetenland and not colonize it, he would have been a pretty bad guy otherwise

[-] geneva_convenience@lemmy.ml 6 points 3 weeks ago

No Hitler did settler colonialism. In Europe. He threw the natives in ovens and stole their house.

That's why Hitler is regarded as the ultimate evil. He did settler colonialism against white people.

[-] VoteNixon2016 25 points 3 weeks ago

Yep, that's why Hitler is regarded as the ultimate evil, the settler colonialism.

The Anschluss and the annexation of the Sudetenland in Czechoslovakia were both justified under the guise of protecting and uniting ethnic Germans in the regions, Hitler even said he'd totally, for realsies stop after that. But I wouldn't expect .ml'ers to care about anything that happened before the Molotov-Ribbentrop Pact broke down.

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[-] HikingVet@lemmy.ca 14 points 3 weeks ago

What's the difference in the end?

[-] NotASharkInAManSuit@lemmy.world 8 points 3 weeks ago

Potato potato.

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[-] theUwUhugger@lemmy.world 20 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

Russia claims that their invasion is justified because ukraine supposedly massacred Russians… Ukranians who are russian according to russia…

If you were to take the middle rode somehow for some reason you would decry both sides as in the wrong

[-] brucethemoose@lemmy.world 26 points 3 weeks ago

Me: "Ah, another Ukraine meme..."

lemmy.ml

Me: "Ah. My mistake." Tips hat

[-] geneva_convenience@lemmy.ml 12 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)
[-] ThatGuy46475@lemmy.world 22 points 3 weeks ago

Just like when your teacher or parent says it takes two to make a fight

[-] gandalf_der_12te@discuss.tchncs.de 20 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

that's antisemitic. you should be ashamed, you want to kill all jews /s

[-] piskertariot@lemmy.world 17 points 3 weeks ago

Couches and automans for Palestine

[-] Blum0108@lemmy.world 11 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

I think they'd prefer autobots

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[-] nroth@lemmy.world 7 points 3 weeks ago

I don't know of any cases of imperialism recently, though I see what appear to be conflicts incorrectly framed as such.

For example, many say this about the Israeli/Arab conflict. However, this conflict is thousands of years old. The Israelis solidly lost a war to keep their land in the BC era, then after WWII, leaders decided to undo the loss, again by force. Predictably, the Arabs, having lived there for thousands of years now (since they were Babylonians!) were not happy. It is not simple.

The Israeli return may have been orchestrated by the imperial powers, but I would argue this is not imperialism or even a bad thing. Consider the colonial invasion of the Americas. That was clearly imperialism because my ancestors had never lived there, and had no claim to the land. We just wanted it. At best, we thought we could make better use of it than the natives. That was not the case with Israel, whose ancestors largely were the natives.

Of course, persecuting Palestinians is wrong. Imagine if thousands of years from now, the American Indians, supported by the international community, forced Americans to adopt their customs and religion or leave. That would not be right either, even though maybe they should have their land back!

We need to share in these cases, and are unfortunately bad at sharing.

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[-] Passerby6497@lemmy.world 45 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

The Israelis solidly lost a war to keep their land in the BC era, then after WWII, leaders decided to undo the loss, again by force.

[snip]

That was clearly imperialism because my ancestors had never lived there, and had no claim to the land. We just wanted it. At best, we thought we could make better use of it than the natives. That was not the case with Israel, whose ancestors largely were the natives.

Absolutely fucking unhinged.

You can't get kicked out of a land 2000 years ago and claim you're still the natives. Israel has 0 claim to the land aside from their religious mythos, and the "christians" are supporting this for similar reasons since their mythos suggests that the second coming is after Israel holds the land.

AT BEST this is imperialism using religion as the excuse (you know, fairly standard imperialism). But claiming it's not imperialism is still carrying water for a genocidal ethnostate trying to handwave away the fact they're stealing land and slaughtering natives while still trying to play the victim.

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[-] thedirtyknapkin@lemmy.world 28 points 3 weeks ago

ignores Ukraine

welcome to Lemmy.ml

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