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tl;dr...city spent $1.5 million to install, halted construction, is removing most of what's been installed, costing $500k to remove.
Even cyclists didn't like them, apparently...

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[-] Showroom7561@lemmy.ca 20 points 1 day ago

Just for clarity, the city is removing the bollards that were just installed, not the actual bike lane. When you watch the video, you can hear at least some of the feedback they were given.

One of them is from a cyclist, and I kind of understand their perspective. They claim that the bollards present an opportunity for cyclists to get injured, either catching their handlebars or hitting, but I'll be honest, it seems a hell of a lot safer than having those multi-lanes of high-speed traffic right beside you.

When plastic bollards act as a deterrent for motorists who think they can encroach into a bike lane, I think anything is better than nothing.

I think the worst part about this is that they're willing to basically not even give them a chance. They're tearing them down before they've even completed construction, which tells me that there could be a bit of "change is bad" mentality going on without even trying.

[-] phutatorius@lemmy.zip 5 points 1 day ago

They're giving in to road-raging SUV-driving MAGAdiots, which are abundant in Vista and most of north SD County.

[-] 474D@lemmy.world 1 points 1 day ago

It's a fucking 3 minute video, how about you watch it before you get on your high horse? Cyclist don't like it because vertical obstructions can affect them and it does nothing to stop car influence

[-] apfelwoiSchoppen@lemmy.world 28 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

Those types of protected bike lanes get built up with detritus and are often never street swept or cleaned out. Cities seemingly do not plan for ongoing maintenance.

[-] N0t_5ure@lemmy.world 23 points 1 day ago

I live in San Diego, and bike a lot. These bike lanes are all over San Diego. They have small street sweepers that fit in there to clean them.

The City of Vista is a community that is part of the urban San Diego landscape, and a couple of decades back it was somewhat rural, which was changed by the suburban sprawl. However, there are still a lot of rednecks that live there, and bike lanes are often viewed by these folks as "liberal bullshit", and blame them for displacing car lanes and parking.

While the video notes that some unspecified bike users don't like the lanes, I'm highly skeptical of that. I ride in similar lanes all over San Diego, and they are a godsend, as they do a good job of keeping cars separated from bikes. A more likely explanation is that the "bikers" complaining are typical conservative rednecks that hate bike lanes in general, and not the people that actually use bike lanes.

[-] jjjalljs@ttrpg.network 15 points 1 day ago

bike lanes are often viewed by these folks as “liberal bullshit”, and blame them for displacing car lanes and parking.

I don't understand how "traveling using your muscles" became less "manly" than "sitting on your ass".

Someone who rides up a big hill on a bike? Fit. Impressive. Admirable.

Someone who drives a car? Boring. Passé. Dull.

[-] phutatorius@lemmy.zip 9 points 1 day ago

I don’t understand how “traveling using your muscles” became less “manly” than “sitting on your ass”.

Same reason sitting on one's fat ass watching football is more manly than running a 10k.

[-] bus_factor@lemmy.world 7 points 1 day ago

Things cannot be manly if they don't cause any pollution. If you're traveling without owning the libs with your diesel truck rolling coal, what is even the point of traveling?

I think it's considered manly because of the power dynamic of ypu having control over something that could easily kill you

[-] jjjalljs@ttrpg.network 2 points 1 day ago

I see how people might think that.

Personally I think power is... Let me quote from classic web comic the order of the stick:

Power, it isn't something that you put on or take off like a jacket. It's something you just ARE.

If you can lose it by blowing two Will saves, you never really had any power in the first place, see what I'm saying?

Thinking you're powerful because you have a big car is foolish

[-] apfelwoiSchoppen@lemmy.world 5 points 1 day ago

Most cities, suburbs, and small towns don't/won't buy anything special to clean them. It is a real problem.

[-] echutaaa@sh.itjust.works 3 points 1 day ago

Nah I know plenty of riders in the area that dislike them because they’d rather ride in the street than have a dumbass driver lose even more control getting popped into the air when they hit the little shitty barriers and crush them. Some of the as lanes in the county are alright but these are bad for everyone involved.

[-] atro_city@fedia.io 4 points 1 day ago

USAian cyclists man... you can't make this shit up.

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