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tl;dr...city spent $1.5 million to install, halted construction, is removing most of what's been installed, costing $500k to remove.
Even cyclists didn't like them, apparently...

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[-] apfelwoiSchoppen@lemmy.world 29 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

Those types of protected bike lanes get built up with detritus and are often never street swept or cleaned out. Cities seemingly do not plan for ongoing maintenance.

[-] N0t_5ure@lemmy.world 24 points 2 weeks ago

I live in San Diego, and bike a lot. These bike lanes are all over San Diego. They have small street sweepers that fit in there to clean them.

The City of Vista is a community that is part of the urban San Diego landscape, and a couple of decades back it was somewhat rural, which was changed by the suburban sprawl. However, there are still a lot of rednecks that live there, and bike lanes are often viewed by these folks as "liberal bullshit", and blame them for displacing car lanes and parking.

While the video notes that some unspecified bike users don't like the lanes, I'm highly skeptical of that. I ride in similar lanes all over San Diego, and they are a godsend, as they do a good job of keeping cars separated from bikes. A more likely explanation is that the "bikers" complaining are typical conservative rednecks that hate bike lanes in general, and not the people that actually use bike lanes.

[-] jjjalljs@ttrpg.network 16 points 2 weeks ago

bike lanes are often viewed by these folks as “liberal bullshit”, and blame them for displacing car lanes and parking.

I don't understand how "traveling using your muscles" became less "manly" than "sitting on your ass".

Someone who rides up a big hill on a bike? Fit. Impressive. Admirable.

Someone who drives a car? Boring. Passé. Dull.

[-] phutatorius@lemmy.zip 10 points 2 weeks ago

I don’t understand how “traveling using your muscles” became less “manly” than “sitting on your ass”.

Same reason sitting on one's fat ass watching football is more manly than running a 10k.

[-] bus_factor@lemmy.world 8 points 2 weeks ago

Things cannot be manly if they don't cause any pollution. If you're traveling without owning the libs with your diesel truck rolling coal, what is even the point of traveling?

[-] jumping_redditor@sh.itjust.works 3 points 2 weeks ago

I think it's considered manly because of the power dynamic of ypu having control over something that could easily kill you

[-] jjjalljs@ttrpg.network 2 points 2 weeks ago

I see how people might think that.

Personally I think power is... Let me quote from classic web comic the order of the stick:

Power, it isn't something that you put on or take off like a jacket. It's something you just ARE.

If you can lose it by blowing two Will saves, you never really had any power in the first place, see what I'm saying?

Thinking you're powerful because you have a big car is foolish

[-] apfelwoiSchoppen@lemmy.world 5 points 2 weeks ago

Most cities, suburbs, and small towns don't/won't buy anything special to clean them. It is a real problem.

[-] echutaaa@sh.itjust.works 3 points 2 weeks ago

Nah I know plenty of riders in the area that dislike them because they’d rather ride in the street than have a dumbass driver lose even more control getting popped into the air when they hit the little shitty barriers and crush them. Some of the as lanes in the county are alright but these are bad for everyone involved.

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