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I know that there are a lot of trans people on hexbear, and I know their beliefs are sincere. What I don't understand is how they square the fact that they would be brutally suppressed, raped, tortured, murdered by the very groups/governments they unwaveringly love and support. It sickens me. Is it a manifestation of self-hatred? I just don't get why they would degrade themselves like this.

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[-] EvilEdgelord@sh.itjust.works 41 points 2 months ago

They're attention whores, and you willingly feed them.

[-] Chronographs@lemmy.zip 27 points 2 months ago

For the most part because you can support their right not to be bombed into oblivion to further America’s imperial ambitions and also disagree with how they treat their lgbtq people. Often these countries were left leaning in the past until America installed a right-wing government.

[-] FundMECFSResearch 34 points 2 months ago

But you can support these people without supporting their corrupt and violent government?

I stand for solidarity with all peoples, not their rulers.

[-] CommunistLady 21 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

I usually just lurk blahaj occaisionally but your post annoyed me enough to post for the first time in 2 years

From their thread:

https://hexbear.net/post/5521160

Most places in the world are fairly equally shit for trans people. If a place is doing well, it is often hard for trans people still. If a place is in war and in famine, downgrade those conditions a step as you would if it were somewhere nice and calm.

And Iran isn't even the worst conditions. Of the countries with the most trans surgeries, the USA is number one, Thailand is two, and Iran is three. Iran's major cities are very modern and even look nicer to live in than many American ones.

Cost of living is very important to trans people, as we are often making less due to discrimination. Every trans person I've talked to in China has mentioned the discrimination and some unusual cultural quirks, but they've also mentioned they've not met a single homeless trans person. For the record, it's very easy to find homeless trans people in America, you can find some on hexbear even in our mutual aid comm. And despite the discrimination, these Chinese trans people have cheap housing in the downtown of major cities

[-] kayzeekayzee 19 points 2 months ago

Really? Right in front of my blahaj.zone?

I'm pretty sure if someone posts something transphobic, ada personally hunts them down and shoots them with a rifle.

[-] couldhavebeenyou@lemmy.zip 14 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

Lol some top comments from their struggle thread following this one:

Stupid fucking ass moron liberals can't fathom having multiple different priorities, and in this case holding internationalism and socialism through anti-imperialism as a priority above sexuality or gender-identity.

I actually think they CAN comprehend it because they all hold nationalism above these things anyway. Gender-identity and sexuality to them are deprioritised when it comes to America's strategic alliance with Saudi Arabia for example, why? Because they are nationalists that place their nationalism and supremacy above that of these issues.

The good old "well, they're muslim so they have to be as bad as the Taliban/ISIS and completely indistinguishable. I won't look into this at all." thing. Israel's policies are in line with many of these nations on LGBTQ, with exceptions only to pink-wash their genocidal ethno-state.

[-] pissnshitworldwide@sh.itjust.works 10 points 2 months ago

LMAO I got 4 comments deep in their thread before I bailed from the radioactive dumbassery. First one accused me of masturbating while writing this post (WTF?!), second accused me of supporting bombing those countries (I don't), third was defending non-voters (Because Trump loves LGBT, Iran, and Palestine, right guys?) and the fourth said Iran has better trans healthcare than the US ( Hmmm... Wonder what that could be about...)

[-] Zetta@mander.xyz 10 points 2 months ago

My understanding is that the majority of them want to see America fall (for good reason IMO, we're just billionaire slaves) so they vocally support the opposition to America. They understand the terrible aspects of some of those countries, but given we live in a western propaganda machine that covers those issues readily they focus on pointing out Americas hypocrisy and highlighting all the issues that our propaganda agencys (news) ignore and sweep under the rug.

You'd be better of asking In an instance that isn't defederated from them (like mine), I assume yours is defederated since nobody from hexbear is here yet.

[-] 4am@lemmy.zip 12 points 2 months ago

Some of them actively Stan for the authoritarian regimes and deny their atrocities, even when there is concrete proof. Even when it’s obvious who is in the wrong.

Others are just pointing out why other countries respond negatively to the United States’ actions.

They are not the same.

[-] ZombiFrancis@sh.itjust.works 3 points 2 months ago

This is MeanwhileOnGrad you're writing in.

[-] Psythik@lemmy.world 3 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

Yeah but then they go and stay stupid shit like "censorship is a good thing". So it's kind of hard to understand the Tankie mind when they literally support oppression. Westerners may be brainwashed by propaganda but at least not all of them are authoritarian bootlickers.

[-] flamingos@feddit.uk 7 points 2 months ago

TBF, they do criticise Russia for its LGBT policies: https://feddit.uk/post/9516220

[-] irelephant@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 2 months ago

I don't think they support (modern) russia, they do oppose ukraine though.

[-] couldhavebeenyou@lemmy.zip 5 points 2 months ago

They most certainly support them

Wrt China, there were some threads about how why you shouldn´t move there if you´re lgbt+, but it´s all just a really smart play by the CCP "because such rights should come gradually and it would be too divisive at a time where their people need to stay united and strong"

[-] breecher@sh.itjust.works 2 points 2 months ago

Bizarre how almost everything they post is regurgitation of Putin propaganda. Believe what they do, not what they say.

[-] iAvicenna@lemmy.world 6 points 2 months ago

hamas famously known to be a long time supporter of LGBTQ+

[-] WoodScientist@sh.itjust.works 2 points 2 months ago

Israel just murder a hundred innocent trans people. They bombed a prison in Tehran, including a wing that housed the regime's trans prisoners. They dropped a massive precision bomb right on top of the trans wing and murdered a hundred innocent trans prisoners. I can't recall Hamas ever doing something like that to trans folks.

[-] iAvicenna@lemmy.world 5 points 2 months ago

Fuck state of Israel, fuck Hamas. To think that a fundamentally islamic group would be ok with LGBTQ+ people rights is simply delusional though.

[-] WoodScientist@sh.itjust.works 2 points 2 months ago

Why do you think that then?

[-] iAvicenna@lemmy.world 4 points 2 months ago

Coming from a much more mildly religious context (compared to Hamas), I know how the majority of religious people feel about this issue. My perspective on the topic is if they are not oppressing them now, they sure will later especially if they come to power.

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[-] wetbeardhairs@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 points 2 months ago

Find one person who has a fully consistent ethical and moral framework. One.

[-] FundMECFSResearch 25 points 2 months ago

You can’t just reply that to dismiss value criticism.

[-] wetbeardhairs@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 2 months ago

The criticism is that the instance isn't consistent in it's beliefs. My point is that no one is.

[-] FundMECFSResearch 20 points 2 months ago

Sure, but “no one’s perfect” in the way you use it just ends up dismissing and sidelining valid criticism.

[-] wetbeardhairs@lemmy.dbzer0.com 9 points 2 months ago

I mean... yeah. You guys are pointing at fucking tankies and expecting them to have a logically consistent framework for their beliefs. Lmao.

[-] orbituary@lemmy.dbzer0.com 15 points 2 months ago

This should have been your first reply. The blanket statements were a bridge too far. This criticizes the actual instance and describes the problem.

[-] Valmond@lemmy.world 11 points 2 months ago

"Whatabout"

[-] it_depends_man@lemmy.world 3 points 2 months ago

Consistency is so easy: "I'm right, everyone else is wrong, in all questions, for all eterntiy." Done.

[-] wetbeardhairs@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 2 months ago

If anything my point would be closer to "I'm wrong, everyone else is wrong, in all questions, for all eternity."

[-] couldhavebeenyou@lemmy.zip 3 points 2 months ago
[-] breecher@sh.itjust.works 2 points 2 months ago

Ah, the whataboutism. Inevitable result of the confused tankie when confronted with reality.

[-] redlegion@sh.itjust.works 4 points 2 months ago

It's not like Israel would be any better.

[-] pissnshitworldwide@sh.itjust.works 39 points 2 months ago

I don't support Israel either

[-] NOT_RICK@lemmy.world 18 points 2 months ago

Whatabout aside, in the specific areas of trans rights they are better than most of the places listed by OP, from what I can tell.

[-] LodeMike@lemmy.today 4 points 2 months ago

mandatory support of Hamas

Are you conflating the support of a nation with the support of a state that exercises control over that nation?

[-] Rampsquatch@sh.itjust.works 12 points 2 months ago

We aren't, but hexbear seems to.

[-] LodeMike@lemmy.today 2 points 2 months ago

Hm. Alright.

[-] pepsi_not_coke@sh.itjust.works 2 points 2 months ago

Hexbear are a bunch of transwashing chuds.

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