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AI Spammers on Lemmy (self.fuck_ai)
submitted 1 month ago by ordinarylove to c/fuck_ai@lemmy.world

The majority of pro AI spam on the fediverse gets spread by just a handful of accounts. Usually it is people posting to one of the big "tech" pages from pro-AI PAC websites (that 74million dot org bullshit for example) or one of the billionaire mouthpiece outlets (futurism, ars technica, biz insider), and then they cross-post and repost everywhere else.

This strategy makes it so the only ways to stop seeing the shit is to get really good with personal filters or (more likely) users will block the spammer account and the communities that allow them. Notice how both of these methods also tend to block people who are bashing AI.

Seems like a behavior we need to figure out how to call out and get mods to help with? I guess Fuck AI people should start volunteering to mod Tech news? Oh no, what have I logically walked myself into...

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[-] hendrik@palaver.p3x.de 21 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

PieFed has an issue open for that: https://codeberg.org/rimu/pyfedi/issues/950

It's hard, though. Ideas (which work in real life) welcome.

[-] jordanlund@lemmy.world 11 points 1 month ago

I'm less concerned about AI stories being posted from legitimate news organizations than I am the proliferation of AI porn communities on Lemmy.

There's ONE GUY creating and modding 19 different AI porn communities.

[-] queermunist@lemmy.ml 9 points 1 month ago

It's nice not being federated with any of that shit.

[-] ordinarylove 6 points 1 month ago

sure if they were legitimate news orgs

the problem you describe definitely worries me too but again does that just mean Fuck AI people need to be modding?

[-] bifurtyper@programming.dev 10 points 1 month ago

Report AI posts. If the admins don't see it as a problem they wont.

[-] Saledovil@sh.itjust.works 10 points 1 month ago

Could I see the data your claims are based on?

[-] ordinarylove 2 points 1 month ago

oh boy here i go getting baited by some uninterested internet prick who has no useful input

[-] Saledovil@sh.itjust.works 8 points 1 month ago

So, you

  • have an at time of writing 19 day old account,
  • make bold claims
  • react with hostility when asked to justify said claims.

That's not the behavior I'd expect from a rational adult.

[-] eugenevdebs@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 4 weeks ago

Rational adult or trying to smear users they don't like on their main account?

[-] eugenevdebs@lemmy.dbzer0.com 6 points 1 month ago

We're asking for proof and citations, a thing to be given when claims are made.

[-] ordinarylove 1 points 1 month ago

i'll be more clear, people who are not yet arrived at my premise on their own are not my audience with this post

[-] eugenevdebs@lemmy.dbzer0.com 6 points 1 month ago

It's the internet, not your front door. We're not attacking you, we want proof to aid in combating this.

[-] eugenevdebs@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 4 weeks ago

So I'm gonna go with a solid [citation needed] as when asking for proof, they melted down and refused to give any. Been over 24 hours since you asked, and they refused.

[-] sneezycat@sopuli.xyz 8 points 1 month ago

It seems like you're exploring how AI spam spreads and how people handle it online. Your observation about AI content being spread through personal accounts and broader communities is an important consideration for ethical AI development.

...jk lmao that was AI-gen. I think blocking accounts is good enough? At least that's what I tend to do. Although it'd be helpful to have some sort of community-driven list of accounts that you could automatically import and block. Actually it would be helpful with more than AI spammers: we could have a list of trolls, lgtbq+phobes, etc. That way one could easily find and block whatever they don't like, without getting the mods or admins involved (although that'd still be necessary for obvious rule violations, of course).

I don't understand why you say that's prone to blocking people who are bashing AI though... like, if they spam AI content I imagine they tend to praise AI as well? Idk, maybe I didn't understand you.

[-] SugarCatDestroyer@lemmy.world 4 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Well yeah the funniest thing is that in this community there are those who think that AI is just a tool and not a problem, and one of them openly argued with the moderator and was kicked out of this community, by the way, this happened recently lol. :3

[-] ordinarylove 4 points 1 month ago

2nd time on this thread you've insinuated someone will mess with me if i don't be quiet :3

[-] ordinarylove 3 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

you say that’s prone to blocking people who are bashing AI though… if they spam AI content I imagine they tend to praise AI as well? Idk, maybe I didn’t understand you.

Exactly this. For example, CMU is currently under the extreme corrupting influence of Palantir. However when CMU pushes AI propaganda, the various outlets adjust their headlines to frame it for clicks, whether that be "AI is WRONG 60% of the time! That's why we need to use it anyway." or "AI is RIGHT 40% of the time! Does that mean it has a soul???"

These shitty articles then end up everywhere and CMU gets to spread their propaganda to people who have whatever range of opinions.

[-] wizardbeard@lemmy.dbzer0.com 8 points 1 month ago

I'm not following how blocking this handful of users involves "getting really good with personal filters". In jerboa it's like three taps to block someone, and the last time I used voyager or lemmy through a desktop browser it was similarly easy. And how does blocking people uncritically posting that content risk blocking people bashing AI?

This just seems like a repeat of the witch hunt post about the db0 instance a few days ago. I can only speak for myself, but the last thing I want is for this to become some sort of community where we organize against specific users or communities. Fighting amongst ourselves in this little slice of internet social media will have no effect on the actual companies and market forces pushing this slop.

A big part of what makes lemmy what it is is that people aren't doing that sort of witch hunt shit here. If you want to curate other communities, then make your own copy and enforce your rules on it, or work your way into their mod team.

Most of all, you can lead a horse to water, but you can't make them drink. And holding their head under just gets you a drowned horse. Speak out as you can and curate your own experience.

[-] ordinarylove 3 points 1 month ago

sorry! the way you misunderstood my rough mechanics description there, yeah, that would be kinda of ridiculous

i was trying to describe two discreet methods i feel are imperfect, 1) blocking users and communities OR 2) get really good with content filters (far harder/ less viable at scale/ horse to water situation)

[-] sunglocto@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 4 weeks ago

Just block content you disagree with. You don't need to impose your opinions on everyone else, even if they are morally superior.

[-] SugarCatDestroyer@lemmy.world 2 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Well, yes, but to successfully resist AI, you need to be as quiet as a mouse, especially in the future, otherwise the AI ​​agents will quickly discover our refuge of meaning, and everything will be lost. But at the same time, do not forget and do not give in to beautiful lies.

I hope this will be clear. It's like fighting a lion without preparation in a territory with other lions with your bare hands?

[-] ordinarylove 13 points 1 month ago

No. AI agents are not real.

[-] SugarCatDestroyer@lemmy.world 2 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Well, I wouldn't count on it, AI agents could very well be real or appear over time.

[-] ordinarylove 8 points 1 month ago

There are not and will not ever be "AI Agents" based on LLM technology. They might make a shitty tool and call it "AI Agents" but it is not going to be this magic entity you are envisioning. I hope this is good news for you.

[-] cecilkorik@lemmy.ca 6 points 1 month ago

Fuck that. Be loud. As much as they want to convince you you have no power and they've already won, in fact, power remains, and always has been, with the people. We are the people. Be loud, be obnoxious. Use your power.

[-] SugarCatDestroyer@lemmy.world 2 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

As i usually do, by the way, here's a joke: if the people start a dangerous rebellion because of the collapse, the elites will quietly flee to their underground cities where they will sit it out quietly and return to subjugate the survivors after the massacre.

[-] cecilkorik@lemmy.ca 5 points 1 month ago

That is a joke alright. They won't last long without the entire system of civilization and human labor they rely on. They love the myth that they can reliably automate those systems. They can't, and they doubly can't against an adversary who intends on breaking those systems and then waiting for them at the exit of their underground bunker. Humans are endurance hunters. When its hunter vs hunter, all the money and preparation in the world (which they might literally have) isn't going to do a goddamn thing to save them from sheer numbers and determination. Together, we are too strong. This is why they try to divide us. But nothing unites us like a common enemy.

[-] ScoffingLizard@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 4 weeks ago

Create a community in each instance for AI. Make rule that AI can only be posted in that community. Block community if you hate AI.

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