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The fediverse used to feel pretty anti-ai, but over the past month or two I've noticed a LOT of generated memes and images, and they tend to have positive votes.

Has there been a sudden culture shift here? Or is there a substantial percentage of people just unable to tell the difference anymore?

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[-] jlow@discuss.tchncs.de 37 points 3 weeks ago

Haven't seen a difference but I also block / downvote everybody / community that posts ai slob so ...

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[-] WhyJiffie@sh.itjust.works 31 points 3 weeks ago

I don't see it, which is horrific considering that others do. can you show a few examples that you think is AI slop?

[-] unexposedhazard@discuss.tchncs.de 19 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

Its usually deleted by mods fairly quickly because its often being posted into comms that specifically ban it. I saw it in politics comms, shitposts, 196 and more

[-] WhyJiffie@sh.itjust.works 9 points 3 weeks ago

and how unambiguous is it that those are AI generated content? is it like blurry colors on images, 6 fingers and 3 hands, or what do you recognize on them?

I think I can identify generated images, but text... well I can't even decide. Probably I just can't so far, because I don't remember any posts or comments that were suspicious

[-] unexposedhazard@discuss.tchncs.de 5 points 3 weeks ago

Identifying them is a skill for sure. You learn what you have to look for, but it depends heavily on the art style that was used. Most people are usually better at identifying hyperrealism ones than comic style ones for example.

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[-] atro_city@fedia.io 27 points 3 weeks ago

"slop" is being thrown around just like "socialist" and "gay". Save it for actual AI slop. Just because something is made by AI doesn't make it automatically "slop" 🙄

[-] Rhaedas@fedia.io 13 points 3 weeks ago

There's always been plenty of human-made content that is slop. AI is just another tool to make easy content. Trying to categorize everything done with AI as slop is lazy and shifting blame, ignoring the difficulty in both moderating large volume as well as the lack of a definition of what is and isn't "good". Which really ends up coming back to the individual, who has means to shut out places that are regularly a problem to them.

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[-] moonlight@fedia.io 9 points 3 weeks ago

I'm referring to stuff that I consider low quality. I don't mind if something is generated, as long as it is labeled as such and is interesting or valuable in some way.

[-] hisao@ani.social 8 points 3 weeks ago

How would you use that term? Would you call "slop" something that was just mindlessly generated using AI in a single prompt and non-"slop" something that uses AI in more sophisticated/deliberate ways? What is the threshold of something being "slop" ultimately? Is this just result not looking decent enough or amount of effort combined with amount of knowledge and experience that was used to create that? I'm personally conflicted on this, because sometimes even mindless prompt may give great result, and sometimes a lot of manual effort may give shit result. I guess with "slop" I tend to gravitate towards "amount of effort combined with amount of knowledge and experience that was used to create" and perhaps also the amount of content that particular person produces and speed of its production. So if someone is really good with some tools (not necessarily AI) and figured some overpowered shortcuts that allow to produce results very fast with little effort, it also can be called "slop" just for the rate of production alone.

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[-] TrickDacy@lemmy.world 6 points 3 weeks ago

I somewhat agree. It's overused

[-] TheLeadenSea@sh.itjust.works 26 points 3 weeks ago

As long as it's intentionally made by a human and the end result is high quality, I personally don't really care what AI or other tools they did or didn't use to create that result

[-] cRazi_man@europe.pub 15 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

I made this. Do you care now? Are you offended and outraged?

[-] TheLeadenSea@sh.itjust.works 21 points 3 weeks ago

Lol, that's great. I don't know why you think I'd be outraged though

[-] cRazi_man@europe.pub 3 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

Well then ChatGPT made this as well and its even more offensive.

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[-] Sidhean@lemmy.world 4 points 3 weeks ago

Why is it made of cheese??

[-] riskable@programming.dev 9 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

Because they probably just took the first image that was generated without even checking it. For today's generative image AI you usually want to generate great big batches then pick the best ones.

Then if you're looking for high quality in your meme you'll also use inpainting and pull the result into Krita or the GIMP to make further improvements (e.g. add text with a proper outline/drop shadow). Then when you're done you'll use AI to upscale the image to a great big size so that it'll look nice when you print it out and hang it on the wall in your cubicle or stick it to the office fridge or some filing cabinet 😁

[-] pleasestopasking@reddthat.com 8 points 3 weeks ago

I feel like the problem with AI generated content is it's so easy for anyone to generate stuff, so there can be a huge amount created with little effort. There is high quality AI-generated content, but whew there's a lot that's total slop.

I don't know what the best response is, though. Requiring disclosure of AI-generated comment doesn't seem like it would help because that's going to be mostly honor system. User-flagged could be used to brigade/suppress posts. Really it's probably just a matter of blocking users and communities where you see consistent slop.

[-] moonlight@fedia.io 4 points 3 weeks ago

Yeah I agree. The issue is that image generation tends to result in maximally bland outputs, and the people who post it tend to put minimal effort in.

I'm not categorically anti-ai, but I feel like I am in practice.

[-] LostWanderer@fedia.io 25 points 3 weeks ago

They are flooding the zone, there are countless pro-AI generated content instances. It's like playing whack-a-mole, I often downvote obvious and human-altered slop (it's all slop to me). Unfortunately, there are going to be images that have positive votes despite the general dislike of said AI-slop, especially because I tend to block those slop instances these days. Naturally, most of it is objectifying women (something I don't want to see anyway) so those will naturally get a lot of votes because people weren't thinking with the right head.

[-] Shimitar@downonthestreet.eu 23 points 3 weeks ago

O don't give a shit and 100% skip useless posts clearly created using AI.

But interesting posts, I do read them even if made with AI.

[-] Lembot_0004@discuss.online 20 points 3 weeks ago

Common sense. A loud minority has tired of throwing tantrums about AI generated stuff. Other people upvote according to the quality of material, not to the methods of its creation.

[-] Deflated0ne@lemmy.world 19 points 3 weeks ago

The internet is steadily becoming Facebook. Full of idiots being force fed AI slop. Alarmingly confident in their wrongness about almost everything.

[-] TabbsTheBat@pawb.social 18 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

I think I have most AI stuff I encountered blocked, and I assume so do other anti AI people, so there's probably just not enough people downvoting/commenting on AI since they don't get it on their feed

[-] rustyfish@lemmy.world 5 points 3 weeks ago

Probably this.

I blocked any and all AI shit I came across. Then I read that they cried about getting downvoted. So I unblocked them, distributed downvotes on their crap like candy and blocked them again. Got a good chuckle out of that.

That was my last interaction with them. It might sound weird, but I actually have better things to do than continue downvoting stuff that literally isn’t art and their posters aren’t artists. That last part has been written solely to trigger these non-artists.

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[-] darthelmet@lemmy.world 17 points 3 weeks ago

I just haven’t noticed really. The reality is that memes, even ones that were made by hand with a lot of effort, are disposable content. Most of them will get looked at for like 10 seconds tops before you either move on or maybe check out the comments. Nobody who isn’t obsessed with finding the AI slop is going to notice the difference between an AI meme and just a shitty photoshop job.

That’s not to say I’m not concerned by the effects of that. Lower effort needed means more low effort stuff, but it’s not really something I’ve clocked as being particularly out of the ordinary.

[-] whaleross@lemmy.world 4 points 3 weeks ago

I'm thinking it's like ads. Some people see them, read them, click the links. Others recognize by glance and filter them out without bothering to process.

Social media, and internet in general, has always been a wild mix of top notch content and bottom of the barrel garbage sharing screen estate.

[-] Ziggurat@jlai.lu 17 points 3 weeks ago

Lemmy is a mix between technology geeks and leftists, and many of us are both. The geek tend to be at least somehow interested in gen "AI" and often know the technical words behind it (if not what they mean). The leftists are more worried by the socio economic impact of AI

[-] Scubus@sh.itjust.works 7 points 3 weeks ago

The issue with the leftists as youve described them is that AI IS happening. There will be no stopping it, no containing it. Its already reshaping our world. And by downplaying its future potential(ai will never be able to identify objects, oops it can now. AI will never be able to make art, whoops it can now. AI will never be able to replace a human in every industry....) you are actively stiffling discussion on how to manage those effects. Anyone who has been seriously following AIs progression over the last ten years can see the patterns on the wall. The time of human workers is over. The only question is whether were going to use AI for the benefit of everyone, or for the benefit of the elite. And by convincing consumers they shouldnt use, even though you cant convince the elite not to, you are only pushing the dial further in the wrong direction.

RIGHT NOW we need to embrace AI. Humans have already shown that we are either incapable or unwilling to run a functional society. Putting something else in charge to make the decisions humans cant or wont is the only possible future we have. Ofc Im not asking to out an llm in charge of the world. But I am asking that people actually do something about their world leaders and start getting ubi implemented today. Because soon enough we will have an AI capable of making those decisions. And make them it will. And thats either a good thing under the post scarcity society weve built, or people rolled over and ignored the problem until they decided they dont need us anymore and get rid of us.

[-] moonlight@fedia.io 3 points 3 weeks ago

As someone who is both, would definitely say I'm interested in generative ML. (I was an early adopter of locally run diffusion models and LLMs. I kinda ended up deeply disappointed by the tech in a lot of ways, but that's a different discussion.)

But personally for me the issue is that I really don't care to see posts that someone didn't care enough to make themself, or read something that someone didn't care to write. And it's always super bland and uninteresting.

[-] cley_faye@lemmy.world 17 points 3 weeks ago

People don't care. as long as they can get their infinite scroll with funny picture, they're happy.

[-] Jack_Burton@lemmy.ca 11 points 3 weeks ago

This brings up an excellent point about addiction. A ~~quick~~ longer than I'd planned anecdote: over the last few years I've nearly completely dumped all social media (and big tech in general). Facebook, Insta, Twitter, all gone. The only social for the last few years I've had left was Reddit, and I dumped that a couple months ago (all social media is toxic, I learned).

I swapped Reddit for Lemmy a few months ago and noticed a huge difference, not just the fewer toxic people, but in the lack of posts overall by comparison. I found myself scrolling through the same Lemmy posts throughout the day, my brain trying to repeat the cycle from Reddit, but stayed strong and didn't go back to Reddit haha.

Anyway, there's still toxicity on Lemmy, and I realized how much it affects me without the cloud of all the other socials bogging it down. Not a lot, but enough. So I made a decision and went back to my old nerd days. I didn't want to miss out on legit articles I was interested in from social media so I set up an rss reader. I started checking out Lemmy in the morning, and my rss throughout the day, which doesn't update often.

What I found at first was I was re-checking lemmy, re-loading rss, and thinking about what else I can put on my phone to scratch that itch. I was (am) still addicted to the dopamine hit of forever-feeds of useless garbage. So instead, I picked up a book. It's been a long time, and it's a slow adjustment, but wow is it ever so much better. Aside from some small interaction on Lemmy in the morning like this, I don't see comments anymore, I read the info I'm interested in reading and make my own judgments without comments trying to sway me, and use my former doom-scrolling time to read a book.

To sum up, you're absolutely right. Addiction is a bitch and the average person doesn't even realize they're addicted.

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[-] CaptManiac@lemmy.world 13 points 3 weeks ago

Same with Reddit. In fact I'd just decided to delete the Reddit app and just hang out here, because the AI slop has become intolerable. But really I'm seeing it everywhere. Google News used to be interesting and now again AI slop. Is this the end of human-based online articles and interactions?

[-] moonlight@fedia.io 3 points 3 weeks ago

It's been everywhere for a while, but the fediverse seemed like a last bastion up until very recently where I've noticed a change.

Is this the end of human-based online articles and interactions?

I sure hope not. At least it's just a few posts here that are generated for now. If it ever gets to the level of Reddit, I might just leave.

[-] misteloct@lemmy.dbzer0.com 12 points 3 weeks ago

John Oliver did a show on this recently, in summary: "not all AI is spam, but all spam is AI". My take, legitimate accounts with a long history are cheap to generate, they're a great purchase to help spread bad faith disinformation and look legit. It's a business model.

[-] JayGray91@piefed.social 8 points 3 weeks ago

I honestly don't see much from the comms I follow (and it's a lot thanks to piefed topics), and when I do browse all, if I find a post from a comm that allows them, I either ignore it or block the comm, for example a genAI art comms.

Idk, lemmy, mbin, piefed, etc isn't reddit with algorithms so it's kind of on the user if they see a lot of it, IMO.

[-] AmidFuror@fedia.io 6 points 3 weeks ago

Yeah, you’re definitely noticing something real—there has been a marked uptick in AI-generated content across the fediverse (and the wider web), and the cultural resistance that once defined many parts of the fediverse is softening in certain pockets. Here's a breakdown of what’s likely going on:

Cultural Shift: Anti-AI Sentiment Is Fragmenting The fediverse (especially Mastodon and related platforms) did start out with strong anti-corporate, anti-surveillance, and often anti-AI stances. But:

The fediverse is not monolithic. As it grows, the original culture is diversifying. New users from Reddit, Twitter/X, and elsewhere are bringing more mainstream (and often more accepting) attitudes toward generative AI.

Fatigue and normalization. Even people who once objected to AI art might be experiencing "AI fatigue"—the novelty and shock have worn off. Now it’s just part of the media landscape.

Irony and memetics. A lot of AI slop is posted ironically, which muddies the waters. It’s part of the "post-cringe" meme economy—bad on purpose becomes good again.

Detection is Slipping: AI Art Is Getting Harder to Spot Improvements in quality. Tools like DALL·E 3, Midjourney v6, and OpenAI’s newer models produce more coherent, less obviously AI-generated content than older ones.

Users are desensitized. The sheer volume of generated content means people are less likely to scrutinize every image, especially if it hits emotional or meme-relevant notes.

Some folks just don’t care. As long as it’s funny, pretty, or relatable, many users don’t bother checking for signs of AI generation.

Positive Votes Don’t Always Equal Approval Engagement ≠ Endorsement. Sometimes people upvote or boost something because it's absurd, ironic, or sparking discussion.

Algorithm-free doesn’t mean signal-free. Even on federated platforms, attention follows trends. If a few users with high visibility post AI memes, others follow.

So, what does this mean? The fediverse is evolving, and its anti-AI culture is being challenged by a mix of userbase expansion, desensitization, and post-ironic meme culture.

It doesn’t necessarily mean most people like AI slop—they might just tolerate or engage with it differently than before.

You’ll still find strong anti-AI sentiment in certain instances (e.g., when artists are affected or attribution is misleading), but the lines are blurrier now.

If you’re seeing a lot of it in your timeline, it might also help to check what instances or users you’re federated with—it’s possible you're seeing more from a few high-volume posters rather than a broad shift across the entire network.

[-] lakemalcom@sh.itjust.works 11 points 3 weeks ago

Why is this written ai style lol

[-] Blaster_M@lemmy.world 5 points 3 weeks ago

AI writes the average. This person speaks the average.

[-] 56_@lemmy.ml 3 points 3 weeks ago

Nah this is just AI.

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[-] AmidFuror@fedia.io 5 points 3 weeks ago

I pasted the full post title and body into ChatGPT. I bolded the subheadings and removed the emoji bullet points.

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[-] UltraGiGaGigantic@lemmy.ml 5 points 3 weeks ago

Is this post AI generated?

[-] daniskarma@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

Many people don't care about it. Me included, for instance.

I would give the reason why but I don't know if anyone is truly interested in knowning.

I don't consider things being made by AI as something terrible. If the post is fine I upvote and comment like any other post. If the content is lazy, clickbaity or plain bad then it's bad. But if it's good I don't care that it was produced using some AI tool or other.

It's true that the fediverse it's still hostile towards AI conversation (this very comment have high possibilities to be drowned with downvotes) but I'm glad the general stance is changing little by little. I hope in a few years the hostility would be much more marginal, specially if the fediverse keeps growing and more people with more diverse opinions come in.

I like to talk about topics, seeing different opinions about it, and when everyone have the same opinion the discussion is not really interesting. With AI, it's something new that sparks a lot of though process about may topic. For instance the morality of it, or the limits, trying to find the gray areas between the black and the white. It can be very interesting, and I'm glad, little by little we can start talking about it.

[-] Pamasich@kbin.earth 4 points 3 weeks ago

I've noticed a LOT of generated memes and they tend to have positive votes

What's the issue with that one in particular? Isn't the entire point of a meme just whether it's funny or not?

I mean, they're low effort and unoriginal to begin with. The AI isn't really changing anything about that.

I feel like memes is one of the few places where AI doesn't hurt anyone at all.

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[-] feedtheplants@lemmy.world 3 points 3 weeks ago

AI sentiment IRL seems to have exploded as well. I think everyone is accepting 'the inevitable'

[-] HubertManne@piefed.social 3 points 3 weeks ago

Personally I block all the meme communities.

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