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[-] Aggravationstation@feddit.uk 164 points 1 month ago

So making access to information free is helping scientific progress? Wow, who could have imagined that!

[-] General_Effort@lemmy.world 12 points 1 month ago

Careful, lest the AI haters hear that.

[-] Siegfried@lemmy.world 55 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Free papers = free access to information

LLMs = trash

[-] General_Effort@lemmy.world 5 points 1 month ago

The AI haters I've seen really hate free access to information. Well, there's apparently other kinds.

[-] moriquende@lemmy.world 20 points 1 month ago

In your eyes, what are these AI haters complaining about?

[-] General_Effort@lemmy.world 3 points 1 month ago

To be clear, here is what I mean by rent: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rent-seeking

[-] General_Effort@lemmy.world 2 points 1 month ago

Seems to be mainly about property owners not getting enough rent.

[-] moriquende@lemmy.world 20 points 1 month ago

I'm not sure you have understood that people don't want to profit from their data, they want to avoid corporations stealing their private texts and pictures to train models they'll profit from.

[-] General_Effort@lemmy.world 2 points 1 month ago

Is this some weak attempt at gaslighting? If you want to make a career out of this, you really need to up your game. I mean, can you imagine some think tank going: Landlords don't want to profit from those apartments, they just want to avoid people squatting in them for free.

[-] moriquende@lemmy.world 11 points 1 month ago

Your problem is that the landlord analogy just doesn't suit this situation.

[-] General_Effort@lemmy.world 3 points 1 month ago

Rent seeking is long-established economic jargon. It doesn't necessarily imply a landlord analogy. A landlord may not be extracting an economic rent within that definition.

The point is rent-seeking, not an analogy to landlords.

[-] moriquende@lemmy.world 7 points 1 month ago

Precisely, and rent-seeking is what's not happening here, as nobody is looking to profit. People are only looking to keep their private information private.

[-] General_Effort@lemmy.world 2 points 1 month ago

Your gaslighting game is shit. Like Copyright lawsuits aren't half the news being cheered by AI haters. Not a single privacy lawsuit in sight. How stupid do you think people are?

[-] moriquende@lemmy.world 6 points 1 month ago

Assuming you're right, it's still not rent-seeking. If I believe that AI companies should be made liable for breaking copyright, I'm not personally receiving any monetary benefit. Where's my rent?

It's about principle. It's unfair that a company can steal data and profit from it. Simple as that.

[-] General_Effort@lemmy.world 2 points 1 month ago

Yes, I'm sure very few AI haters will be getting any rent personally. They are supporting rent-seeking by others. I'm sure many do so out of "principle", or as it would be more commonly phrased, out of ideological dogmatism. I'm a left/liberal guy. I want a society that works for everybody.

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[-] Geodad@lemmy.world 119 points 1 month ago

If scientists didn't have to pay obscene prices to view articles, those articles are cited more often. Who would have thought?

[-] Mavvik@lemmy.ca 89 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

I personally like scihub because it's easier to get papers off of rather than going through my library's portal for a lot of journals.

[-] Zacryon@feddit.org 37 points 1 month ago

Noted. Will upload my future papers on SciHub myself. /j. Or am I? Vsauce music plays Did you know vegetables are a social construct?

[-] sunoc@sh.itjust.works 20 points 1 month ago

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[-] idiomaddict@lemmy.world 11 points 1 month ago

I don’t know if it’s just my field or if I’m searching wrong, but I get almost nothing when I look for papers about German grammar and language instruction. Is this mostly for more mainstream/hard science papers?

[-] illusionist@lemmy.zip 13 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

I can't speak for your field or language but someone has to upload it. Content in German and about grammar sounds very specific. Maybe there's a lack of interest on scihub. Ask around in your circle where they share/get their articles

[-] Droggelbecher@lemmy.world 11 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Idk if itll help but have you tried annas archive? It mirrors multiple science piracy sites.

Edit:do you mean pedagogical materials or research? Cause I don't think you'll be lucky if it's the former.

[-] idiomaddict@lemmy.world 4 points 1 month ago

I have tried it, but also not had any luck. I am looking for research, but it’s still a really narrow field, tbh. Even in Germany, I think there are only a handful of DaF/aZ postgrad programs.

[-] Droggelbecher@lemmy.world 6 points 1 month ago

So yeah it's probably your field! Sorry about that. Fwiw I don't think the problem is that it isn't 'hard science', I find it easy to find philosophical works (German, English and French language ones). It's probably just too niche.

[-] AlolanYoda@mander.xyz 4 points 1 month ago

My input: I've never searched for papers in Scihub directly. I usually find them off Google scholar or something, and then put the paywalled URL or the DOI (an identifier you can usually find in the paywalled website) in Scihub to go to that paper. I don't think search capabilities are in scihub's scope.

[-] idiomaddict@lemmy.world 2 points 1 month ago

I generally use the DOI, but I did not realize that you could just type in a paywalled url. That might explain it, thanks!

[-] pdqcp@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 1 month ago

Guess it is time to fill in that niche, 😉 😉

[-] sommerset@thelemmy.club 11 points 1 month ago

She knows not to travel. The organizer.

But tbh - even zlibrary creators got away from Argentina, they should make a movie about it one day.

[-] ftbd@feddit.org 11 points 1 month ago

This is why you put the preprint on arxiv

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