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Accused? Not convicted but accused?!
This Supreme Court may just love that!
If there is one thing the Conservative Majority SCOTUS likes is a to "answer" a question no one is asking.
Citizens United was based off an FEC decision about the Michael Moore, a commercial film maker, the docudrama Farenheite 9/11 which was critical of the Bush administration's response to the 9/11 territorist attacks. The Complaint was the film was political advertisement 60 days before a general election. The FEC decided the film could be aired before the 2004 election as it didn't support one candidate and only referenced how it was handled not current commentary In advertisements, and therefore was not not a political advertisement for a single candidate.
In response, Citizens United produced a "documentary" Celcius 41.11" which was critical of the Farenheite 9/11 and John Kerry's actual policies. The FEC ruled this was clearly was a political advertisement put out by not a bona fide commercial film studio, and therefore could no be aired 60 days out from a general election.
What was argued to SCOTUS: Celcius 41.11 should be legal bc we did like Farenheite 9/11 and do not like John Kerry's 2004 presidential policies
What SCOTUS ruled: Coperations could spend unlimited funds to be critical of an individual's policies just so long as there was no coordination between the corporation and the candidate that said that the corporation supports
WTF this is even stupider that I thought. This is "Citizens United"?
Well, that was a bit of a stretch. Citizens United was challenging the law used by the FEC to stop their film. That law was first and foremost a law about banning advertising, money collection, and campaigning by non-campaign sources. So the Supreme Court was answering the asked question.
Even if you were convicted of it that doesn't seem like a suitable punishment. What if you didn't even use the Internet to copy whatever it was? If I used a VCR to copy a video would I be banned from VCRs?
Why does the copyright owner get to dictate the punishment? When someone steals from a regular person the judge doesn't ask the person what the punishment should be.
Even if you were convicted of it that doesn’t seem like a suitable punishment.
Agreed; It is not a suitable punishment.
Internet access is now practically required by a great deal of services that we depend on in order to live. Taking it away because of copyright infringement would be like banning someone from grocery stores for throwing a poppy seed at some corporation's skyscraper.
So... Meta?
I will support this on the single condition that all of Meta gets disconnected because they did piracy.
In fact, all AIs are doing piracy. Cut off those companies too.
YouTube gets cut off for hosting copyrighted material. Twitch is cut off.
Twitter gets cut off for sharing copyrighted material.
Google stole all those books. Cut it off.
Do it all. Burn it to the ground.
Nintendo smiles at this.
So does that just mean I can claim that I’m an AI company and need to download all this copyright material for my “start up?”
Are you a billionaire?
Dang it, you’re right.
Do I have an investment opportunity for you, you can buy in for the low low price of a billion dollars.
Allegedly?
It means if you accuse an AI company if piracy the ISP will have to disconnect them.
We going to shut down Sony for pirating Adobe software and other companies?
In case anyone needed proof that intellectual property is a dystopian concept.
Dont doomsay so much, there's a completely reasonable balance.... that we are exceptionally far away from, because society is a kangaroo court on sale for the highest bidder.
Time to have an AI shut down Sony's Internet? Maybe all the concurring judges?
The only reason I think this won't pass is AI needs to steal copy written data. If there wasn't a corporate shithead doing it then I'm sure the Supreme Court would allow this
You see, the corporate shithead will just share a gratuity with a few justices of choice. That's how this court has been running for years.
So what's going to happen is there will be a group that will exploit all the horribly insecure home routers out there with active CVEs that will never get patched. They will then use systems within those networks to do the torrenting, and then securely copy them away.
Then a ton of people will be accused of piracy just by their IPs and get disconnected.
I'm sure it'll be fine...
This terrifies me.
I have a collection of 240TB of (mostly) pirated material. I'm uploading 10s of TB a month, downloading ~3TB per month. All going through a VPN, and have never received a notice. Granted, I have unlimited 5 gigabit service at a residential address, so I'm guessing my ISP is catering to people like me with that offering.
Argh! pirate salute
VPN.
And make sure you bind it to the app, otherwise when it disconnects it will expose you
Mullvad does this nicely with lockdown mode. It's also really inexpensive and you can pay anonymously so the only record they have is your customer ID number.
I've been a Torguard user for almost 10 years now
I've never used Torguard but I'm guessing it's probably pretty good too? The only ones I hear about a lot are the big ones (NordVPN and the like) and I'm always leery of the really large, common and corporate used VPN services.
I ended up on Mullvad 7-8 years ago because of the recommendation of a SysAdmin I worked with at the time.
As far as I know, this one was made for torrents. I push terabytes of data through it, up and down, no complaints at all. I avoid all the ones that advertise and lie on YouTube channels. Nord, surf shark, etc. Torguard is pretty small and offer a lot. I have it on my Zorin laptop, desktop, tv, phone and tablet just in case I need to change locations.
So if the Supreme Court allows this I can just accuse record labels of copyright infringement to have their Internet cut off?
this post was submitted on 02 Jul 2025
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