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Spotify, the world’s leading music streaming platform, is facing intense criticism and boycott calls following CEO Daniel Ek’s announcement of a €600m ($702m) investment in Helsing, a German defence startup specialising in AI-powered combat drones and military software.

The move, announced on 17 June, has sparked widespread outrage from musicians, activists and social media users who accuse Ek of funnelling profits from music streaming into the military industry.

Many have started calling on users to cancel their subscriptions to the service.

“Finally cancelling my Spotify subscription – why am I paying for a fuckass app that works worse than it did 10 years ago, while their CEO spends all my money on technofascist military fantasies?” said one user on X.

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[-] Balaquina@lemmy.ca 130 points 1 month ago

I boycotted them a long time ago when I found out they donated to Trump's campaign, despite being a Swedish company.

[-] PrivateNoob@sopuli.xyz 48 points 1 month ago

Wow didn't know that.

[-] 3abas@lemm.ee 17 points 1 month ago

Been off Spotify since they have Rogan his platform, which contributed to Trump also.

[-] roofuskit@lemmy.world 16 points 1 month ago
[-] Greg@lemmy.ca 29 points 1 month ago

It's legal through a US subsidiary if the funds come from US operations. The morality is questionable though

[-] solsangraal@lemmy.zip 18 points 1 month ago

when due process is completely ignored, then you can be pretty sure that "legal" has no meaning anymore. especially seeing as how the people who are supposed to be enforcing these "laws" are the ones who are ignoring them

[-] TheAlbatross 10 points 1 month ago

Honey this is America, anything is legal if you got the money

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[-] vividspecter@aussie.zone 12 points 1 month ago

Not to mention giving 100s of millions of dollars to fund Joe Rogan and his extreme right-wing propaganda.

[-] killerscene@lemmy.dbzer0.com 7 points 1 month ago

thats when i cancelled as well. this guy seems like such a fucknut

[-] FlashMobOfOne@lemmy.world 5 points 1 month ago

Same, took some legwork to get files for my 700-song library, but we did it. Fuck 'em.

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[-] ryper@lemmy.ca 62 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

“Finally cancelling my Spotify subscription – why am I paying for a fuckass app that works worse than it did 10 years ago, while their CEO spends all my money on technofascist military fantasies?” said one user on X.

You shouldn't be "paying for a fuckass app that works worse than it did 10 years ago" regardless of anything an executive has done. Be less lazy and cancel subscriptions to shitty services.

Also, if a CEO doing a bad thing is a dealbreaker for them, why the fuck are they on twitter?.

[-] kibiz0r@midwest.social 79 points 1 month ago

I think one of the most toxic things on Lemmy is the prevalence of judging normies for using incredibly popular services and ascribing it to a character defect instead of life just being too complex for most people to be able to prioritize exploring more ethical technology choices.

[-] FlashMobOfOne@lemmy.world 28 points 1 month ago

You're not wrong. There are lots of holier-than-thou types around here.

[-] noobface@lemmy.world 19 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

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[-] Codilingus@sh.itjust.works 17 points 1 month ago

Agreed, most comments are miserable, toxic, old man yells at cloud, energy. More and more, so.

[-] vividspecter@aussie.zone 10 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

I get where you're coming from, but it's not like there aren't multiple obvious alternatives (and not just on the fediverse). And someone being clued in enough to boycott Spotify should have no trouble finding those alternatives. Additionally, the platform being owned by an outright Nazi should give even the most out of touch people pause.

But agreed that people could stand to be a bit more tactful about it and not immediately go on the attack.

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[-] 3abas@lemm.ee 7 points 1 month ago

No... It's just laziness let's not sugar coat it. You have the wealth of human knowledge in your pocket, knowledge of how to do absolutely anything and everything for free on a silver platter, all you have to do is prioritize exploring ethical technology choices. Complexity of the problem itself is not a good excuse to not learning to solve it as it continues to become a bigger problem.

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[-] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 12 points 1 month ago

Be less lazy

"Damn this sucks, I'm doing the thing"

"Hey you lazy stupid fuck, go back in time and do it sooner"

Why is the Internet like this?

[-] hopesdead@startrek.website 35 points 1 month ago

Dude, you should have stopped using Spotify when they let Joe Rogan on their platform… or when they started hosting fake music.

[-] Codilingus@sh.itjust.works 16 points 1 month ago

Or because they pay artist way less than any one else, while having lower quality audio.

[-] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 29 points 1 month ago

Always worth keeping in mind that these fuckers are selling snake oil to one another under the guise of national security.

This technology is dangerous not because it works as advertised but because it creates a vacuum of responsibility for when the very manual killing starts

Israel's Lavender AI is a great example of this in action. It doesn't work in any meaningful way. All it does is label casualties in a bombing run as "terrorists" after the fact.

[-] criss_cross@lemmy.world 20 points 1 month ago

What are the Spotify alternatives people recommend?

[-] 1995ToyotaCorolla@lemmy.world 22 points 1 month ago

IIRC Tidal and Qobuz should be good alternatives

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[-] vividspecter@aussie.zone 6 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

If you're technically inclined, self-host navidrome or jellyfin.

If you just want music and don't care about the streaming part, bandcamp (although it does have some basic streaming I believe.

If you want streaming and aren't technically inclined, Tidal.

[-] Melvin_Ferd@lemmy.world 6 points 1 month ago

Napster, bearshare

[-] Codilingus@sh.itjust.works 6 points 1 month ago

Tidal is cheaper and better quality, Deezer is good, too.

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[-] EstonianGuy@lemm.ee 20 points 1 month ago

Spotify CEO also donated millions to trump campaign.

[-] slaacaa@lemmy.world 19 points 1 month ago
[-] BigBenis@lemmy.world 18 points 1 month ago

I stopped using Spotify long ago because of their shitty business practices. Producing a product they killed support for within just a couple years without reimbursing customers and producing huge amounts of e-waste. Jacking their subscription prices twice in one year. Apparently, they also donated to Trump despite not being an American company?? That's to say nothing of their shitty recommendation algorithm, which just plays your most played tracks over and over. Good riddance.

For those interested, I use Tidal now. I'm satisfied with, their recommendation algo is fine and the higher quality streaming is really nice but nothing I've used has ever been as good as Google Play Music, I found so much good music though that service and could upload whatever I was missing. Once Tidal inevitably pisses me off, I'm going to move on to self hosting.

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[-] NigelFrobisher@aussie.zone 16 points 1 month ago

“Said one user on X.”

[-] cupcakezealot@piefed.blahaj.zone 13 points 1 month ago

damn people are just learning that spotify is a shitty pro fascist/pro white supremacist company?

[-] SuperSpruce@lemmy.zip 13 points 1 month ago

Funny enough, for local downloads of video game OSTs (which I like way too much), I've been recently turning to Steam of all things. Often cheaper than Bandcamp and DRM-free!

[-] Cherry@piefed.social 12 points 1 month ago

Been thinking of booting them for a whilst. Just cancelled. Better late than never.

[-] addie@feddit.uk 8 points 1 month ago

Yeah - been talking about doing so for quite a long time, and then signing up to a Qobuz family plan, downloading all their apps, and cancelling everything Spotify has taken all of five minutes. Hardly even interrupted the album we were listening to via Chromecast. There's a lesson to be learned somewhere.

Qobuz' recommendations and albums-of-the-week actually look good, too. Like an actual music enthusiast has picked things out, rather than Spotify's slop.

[-] rmuk@feddit.uk 6 points 1 month ago

Same story here. I cancelled Spotify after the whole Trump thing and switched to Qobuz; the whole thing was pretty seamless. I've got to say, the increased quality is actually noticeable and, as you said, the curated selections actually seem to be, well, curated. Also, if you've got a load of playlists on Spotify you want to keep, Qobuz actually provides subscribers with free access to a migartion service that did a superb job.

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[-] General_Effort@lemmy.world 11 points 1 month ago

Who's calling for that boycott? Putin?

Respect for the true pacifists out there, but investing in EU-based defense industry is hardly questionable by ordinary standards.

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[-] FarraigePlaisteach@lemmy.world 10 points 1 month ago

The best time to start boycotting was when they started platforming a conspiracy theorising, testicle headed manosphere peddler. The next best time is not I suppose.

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[-] torrentialgrain@lemm.ee 8 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

There are lots of reasons to boycott Spotify and call out Ek for being a fascism enabler but this is not one. Helsing is a promising project that could give Europe the edge in the face of Russian imperialist aggression. If anything, we need more companies shaking up the crusty MIC. They also provide important military aid to Ukraine.

[-] geneva_convenience@lemmy.ml 16 points 1 month ago

The Germans can surely be trusted with AI murder tech.

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[-] atmorous@lemmy.world 8 points 1 month ago

Out of every company I would have never expected Spotify to be one of the ones to want that

[-] rimjob_rainer@discuss.tchncs.de 6 points 1 month ago

What's up with the cool startup names recently? First Palantir the fortune teller ball, now Helsing the vampire hunter? Fuck yeah, who doesn't invest in these? /s

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[-] FlashMobOfOne@lemmy.world 6 points 1 month ago

It is possible to get off Spotify.

What you can't buy legitimately via other means you can use a Youtube-To-MP3 converter to rip and add the file to your music library.

[-] zarkanian@sh.itjust.works 6 points 1 month ago

You're saving an already low-quality stream into a lossy format. Just use Soulseek.

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