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PewDiePie's tierlist of browsers (lemmy.ml)
submitted 1 month ago by cm0002@lemmy.world to c/privacy@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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Source: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u_Lxkt50xOg

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[-] sp3ctr4l@lemmy.dbzer0.com 39 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

I could make some minor technical quibbling noises about a few of these, but uh yeah, seems like a quite reasonable overall assesment.

EDIT:

Oh dear god I am blind, I didn't notice he had Brave on the very top rank.

No, no no no.

Brave is trash.

Beyond getting bloated and slower over time...

... doing a whole bunch of crypto based funding and ""anonymizing"" to tie into an advertisement system...

...Peter Fucking Thiel, of Palantir, you know the fucking hyperwealthy dark overlord of data harvesting data and then selling dystopian surveillance tech to governments?

Who openly calls for hypercapitalism, corporate neofeudalism, whatever you wanna call it, actual cyberpunk dystopian nightmare society?

Yeah he was a major founding investor.

You'd have to be an idiot to think Brave is actually private or secure.

https://www.xda-developers.com/brave-most-overrated-browser-dont-recommend/

And I was an idiot for missing it up there in the top row, christ i need glasses.

[-] lka1988@lemmy.dbzer0.com 27 points 1 month ago

Brave is S-tier? Really?

That alone makes me want to dismiss the entire thing.

[-] sugar_in_your_tea@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 month ago

Yeah, I'd put it at B or C. In fact, my list is simple:

  1. Firefox and its derivatives
  2. Anything with a decent ad blocker (so Brave I guess?)
  3. Everything else
[-] lka1988@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 1 month ago

Brave shouldn't even be on this list with all the shit they tried to pull with crypto and whatnot.

[-] sugar_in_your_tea@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 month ago

Why? None of that has anything to do with the browser, since you can completely ignore the crypto nonsense and it still has a good ad blocker. If you need a chromium browser with ad blocking, it's quite good.

I use it as a backup to Firefox and it works well.

[-] Colloidal@programming.dev 20 points 1 month ago

I don't agree but I don't disagree sanguinely. Solid normie ranking.

[-] hperrin@lemmy.ca 9 points 1 month ago

There are no “goats” browsers. Every browser sucks.

[-] m4ylame0wecm@lemmy.zip 7 points 1 month ago

Reasonable despite Nazi.

Are there major known problems with Bromite, Mull, and PrivacyBrowser to be on the bottom tier or normie ignorance?

[-] Rentlar@lemmy.ca 15 points 1 month ago

I think lately Pewdiepie has had far fewer brush-ups against his years of the bigoted and Neo-Nazi vein of humour. I believe it was more naive complicity than intention. While that doesn't remove the harm he had done in the past, he has apologized and I think he has, by and large, moved past tone-deaf jokes about peoples' race, sex or religion in the last few years.

Bottom browsers appear to be an "I don't know" tier.

[-] Turret3857@infosec.pub 13 points 1 month ago

The tier says its stuff he hasn't heard of.

[-] user224@lemmy.sdf.org 5 points 1 month ago

Mull is also discontinued.

[-] pipes@sh.itjust.works 3 points 1 month ago

Ironfox is Mull's successor; tho it needs adding a repo since it's not on fdroid repo yet

[-] TwiddleTwaddle 5 points 1 month ago

Bromite's been abandoned for years now. Chromite is right next to it on the bottom tier though, and its well maintained and wonderful, so idk.

[-] Mwa@thelemmy.club 1 points 1 month ago

Additionally chromite has desktop support

[-] veeesix@lemmy.ca 6 points 1 month ago

No Zen browser?

[-] FundMECFSResearch 6 points 1 month ago

Theres ungoogled chrome??

[-] yyprum@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 1 month ago

Yes, called chromium, I've had to use chrome sometimes for work (fucking teams) so instead I use chromium.

[-] pipes@sh.itjust.works 11 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

chromium ≠ ungoogled chromium

The latter is my last-resort for those websites that will only work with chromium browsers, the rare times I absolutely need them. Works pretty well and it's easy enough (for now) to add ublock origin via drag and drop.

I use the flatpak version, faster to install.

[-] KoalaUnknown@lemmy.world 3 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Have you heard of our lord and savor, Waterfox?

Free thyself from the Mozilla Corporation

[-] cm0002@lemmy.world 6 points 1 month ago

Lol, all FF derivatives still rely on Mozilla for maintaining the browser engine. One of the most complicated pieces of software to develop, and there's only 3 fully operational ones. Chrome, Safaris Webkit and FFs Gecko. MS gave up on their engine because it was so difficult to maintain.

Should Mozilla go full tilt enshittification and close the source or something, all the derivatives will wither and die.

[-] Colloidal@programming.dev 6 points 1 month ago

Safari's WebKit isn't Apple's though. It was built around KHTML, from KDE.

[-] cm0002@lemmy.world 6 points 1 month ago

True, but, KHTML hasn't been developed now for a decade.

Iirc, the Chrome engine is a fork of KHTML as well.

There's also open source Servo engine, which kinda works ok for specific use cases

And there's Ladybird browser, the first browser with a from-scratch browser engine, it started 5 or 6 years ago and isn't targeting its first alpha until 2027

Those are the 2 closest to being ready for "Average Joe Usage" and they are not even close to being ready for prime time.

[-] sugar_in_your_tea@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 month ago

Chrome uses a fork of WebKit (Safari), which is a fork of KHTML, IIRC.

[-] ScoffingLizard@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 1 month ago

People will start posting what browser they are using and it will be a trick post to fingerprint Lemmy users.

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