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[-] xorollo@leminal.space 28 points 10 hours ago

So let me tell y'all about the crazies I work with. I burn easily, and there is very little shade, so I store sunscreen everywhere. My desk, the bathroom, my bag, the car, the office supply closet, etc. I often use it and offer to my colleagues when anyone needs to go out for a while.

We got a new guy on the team, he's going out, I suggest he take some sunscreen. He tells me that sunscreen is poison and that you don't really need it as long as you don't wear sunglasses. He tells me that it's wearing sunglasses that actually causes you to burn because your eyes don't get as much sun so your brain doesn't send the right chemicals out to protect your skin.

[-] morphballganon@mtgzone.com 7 points 8 hours ago

So blind people never get sunburn? Or always get sunburn?

[-] MutilationWave@lemmy.dbzer0.com 14 points 10 hours ago* (last edited 10 hours ago)

Sometimes I think I've heard all the batshit nonsense. Other times I read something like this.

[-] Fridgeratr@lemmy.dbzer0.com 6 points 10 hours ago

Yeah I've seen an upsurge of people claiming sunscreen is toxic poison. Not sure where the fuck they pulled that from

[-] webghost0101@sopuli.xyz 4 points 3 hours ago* (last edited 3 hours ago)

Everything that will kill you A to Z.

S is for sunscreen, but also the sun. Both give you cancer, isn’t that fun.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WPz9Fcvb1II

[-] nik9000@programming.dev 6 points 9 hours ago
[-] madeofpendletonwool@lemmy.world 5 points 9 hours ago

It's a good thing my skin isn't made of coral.

[-] chatokun@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 8 hours ago

Some of the chemicals do show up a bit in blood, but there's no evidence it's toxic iirc.

[-] e8d79@discuss.tchncs.de 3 points 9 hours ago

Maybe they read something about the titanium dioxide contained in some sunscreen products. There is some research indicating that its not as safe as we thought and that it might be carcinogenic.

[-] HowAbt2day@futurology.today 3 points 7 hours ago

It might be but sunburn is definitely carcinogenic.

[-] yogurtwrong@lemmy.world 13 points 12 hours ago* (last edited 12 hours ago)

It's actually irritating to me that the sun is bombarding us with ionizing radiation

(I know, not the same intensity) but think about the amount of precautions we take before turning on a UV lamp. Or before turning on a very bright LED which you are not supposed to look directly at. Well, neither you should look directly at the sun, but you get the idea

In a perspective, sun is so radioactive it can even decay paint and plastic! It can literally cook you alive and make your skin fall in pieces. This just seems usual to us because we were born with it, people would freak the hell out if a medical procedure had the same side effects

Look, I can make a right wing campaign out of this! BAN THE SUN SAVE YOUR KIDS FROM 800T (Terahertz) RADIATION

[-] Bgugi@lemmy.world 2 points 8 hours ago

It’s actually irritating to me that the sun is bombarding us with ionizing radiation

Yeah, it's called a sunburn!

[-] MutilationWave@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 10 hours ago* (last edited 10 hours ago)

I'm sure you could get signatures as long as you don't use the word sun, similar to that ban dihydrogen monoxide bit. Take video.

[-] merc@sh.itjust.works 17 points 14 hours ago

On the other hand, what bullshit is it that my stupid human body can't survive being outdoors without medicinal cream. My ancestors would be ashamed.

[-] alekwithak@lemmy.world 5 points 10 hours ago

Mud and henna masks and other full skin coverings are extremely common among indigenous people and presumably your ancestors as well.

[-] kerrigan778 8 points 12 hours ago

Your ancestors had melanin production to fit their sun exposure and seldom lived past 40

[-] merc@sh.itjust.works 10 points 11 hours ago

Maybe tens of thousands of years ago, but 2000ish years ago 60ish was old age. The main reason life expectancy has gone up isn't that old people didn't make it to 50, it's that young people didn't make it to 2. If a couple has 5 kids, 3 of them die as toddlers and the other two make it to 70 the average life expectancy is about 30, but that doesn't mean living past 30 is unusual.

Also, tens of thousands of years ago there was an ice age, but for the last 10k years light-skinned Europeans still had normal summers and worked in the fields.

[-] kerrigan778 2 points 11 hours ago

Yes, that is when we evolved

[-] MutilationWave@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 10 hours ago

You must know how averages work. The poster is correct. Average age at death is a horrible metric when you have gigantic birth and infant mortality rates.

[-] kerrigan778 1 points 9 hours ago

No, I mean that for the brunt of humans evolving to be genetically roughly what we are today, it is unlikely many people were living much past their prime. I am talking about roughly 100,000 years ago up to around 10,000 years ago when humans developed from a largely hunter-gatherer lifestyle.

[-] MutilationWave@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 8 hours ago

People who live a hunter-gatherer lifestyle today live 65+ regularly. The average may be lower for uncontacted peoples for various reasons, or higher because of reduced disease transmission. I imagine it depends on the group.

Now, I will give you that humans have refined their techniques of hunting etc over that 90k years in a way that caused less accidental deaths.

The crux of the matter though is that the statistical averages you have seen are flawed by infant mortality. In these societies, if you made it past toddler age you were statistically likely to live a long time.

What would be killing people much past their "prime" and how do you define prime?

[-] merc@sh.itjust.works 2 points 10 hours ago

And only then?

[-] sowitzer@lemm.ee 1 points 10 hours ago

Speak for yourself.

[-] BackgrndNoize@lemmy.world 3 points 13 hours ago

Your ancestors didn't shave

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[-] NikkiDimes@lemmy.world 10 points 15 hours ago* (last edited 15 hours ago)

>be me
>white as everliving fuck
>put on 60 spf sun screen, as you should, and set a timer for an hour and a half to reapply, earlier than the recommended 2 hours
>alarm goes off, reapply
>STILL GET SUNBURNED

mfw

[-] xorollo@leminal.space 3 points 11 hours ago

Lotion is good for the first coat, but the spray is so much easier to apply when you're already sweaty and sand is everywhere.

[-] rhymeswithduck@sh.itjust.works 5 points 13 hours ago

I used to have that problem. I switched to 30 spf and don't get burned anymore. I can't really explain it, but my theory is that 50+ is marketing BS and doesn't actually do anything. Or it could be that Banana Boat brand just really sucks and Hawaiian is more like lotion so it actually stays on my skin and also moisturizes, which probably helps because dry skin = gonna get burned.

[-] Bongles@lemmy.zip 4 points 13 hours ago

Get 100 spf, I've never even tanned on that shit.

[-] OozingPositron@feddit.cl 1 points 9 hours ago

I have never in my life seen anything seen anything higher than 50+

[-] Zetta@mander.xyz 4 points 13 hours ago* (last edited 13 hours ago)

The difference between SPF 60 and 100 is like 1.1% better UV blocking, anything over SPF 50 is in a practical sense nearly useless.

For instance SPF 30 blocks 97% of UVB rays, is it worth paying more and slathering more potentially harmful (to the environment) compounds on your skin for 98% blocking? I think not.

[-] drosophila 5 points 9 hours ago* (last edited 9 hours ago)

I used to think the same thing, but the thing is we don't care about the energy that goes into the sunscreen, we care about the remaining percent that goes into the skin. If you go from a sunscreen that absorbs 98% of the sun's energy to one that absorbs 99% you are halving the amount of energy your skin is exposed to.

If you're still getting burned with 98% absorption, then increasing that number by 1% would actually make a huge difference. And that's without even considering things like having a safety margin for improper application.

[-] pyre@lemmy.world 6 points 13 hours ago

what if your skin has a hit point system and that 1% difference is the breaking point of sunburn

[-] MutilationWave@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 10 hours ago

They've cracked the code....

[-] Bongles@lemmy.zip 3 points 11 hours ago

Seems like in real world use it makes a difference.

https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/S0190962219327550

https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/29291958/

From another thing I read, people have a tendency to not apply enough sunscreen or apply it correctly. I'm sure if everyone did it perfectly it wouldn't matter. All I know is anecdotally, when I switched to 100 I stopped getting sunburns, and I have been in situations with people who used their own lower spf, got a little burned still, and I came out of it pale white.

The price might be higher, but a quick look on Amazon and I'm seeing more than spf affecting that. The brand I buy is about 1.80 (usd) per ounce, and i see other brands with less spf for more. I see other brands with the same spf for less, and it seems like it's between ~1.10 per ounce to ~2.80 per ounce so I'm not really bothered by my price. I don't know anything about the environmental differences between spf so I won't comment on that.

[-] NikkiDimes@lemmy.world 1 points 11 hours ago

The average person should almost certainly not be using it, but maybe it would make the difference for extremely sun sensitive people.

[-] MutilationWave@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 10 hours ago

If someone is that sensitive to sun they should start picking up fashion tips from the Bedouin.

[-] _AutumnMoon_ 1 points 11 hours ago

I once somehow got sunburned while inside my bedroom

[-] driving_crooner@lemmy.eco.br 9 points 15 hours ago* (last edited 10 hours ago)

The worst is when is a cloudy Summer day and you're like there's no sun mf, no need to sunscreen! But you still get burned the fuck out.

[-] joyjoy@lemmy.zip 18 points 18 hours ago* (last edited 18 hours ago)

Not wearing sunscreen and getting a sunburn is a psyop to get men to buy more aloe vera.

[-] MutilationWave@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 10 hours ago

Put that shit in the refrigerator, it's awesome.

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[-] RedFrank24@lemmy.world 15 points 20 hours ago

I would wear suncream more often, but:

  1. I'm allergic to something in most brands of suncream so if I run out I'm having to deal with rashes all over where I used it.
  2. I hate how it makes me feel slimy after using it

There's this Loreal suncream spray I like that I can't seem to find that feels like water and when it's dry, it doesn't feel like you have suncream on. It's perfect for me! I'm not allergic to it either so I can actually go in the sun without turning red and blotchy!

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[-] phuntis@sopuli.xyz 93 points 1 day ago

mate it's £5-10 for a 200ml bottle I'd hardly call that cheap

[-] Droggelbecher@lemmy.world 3 points 12 hours ago

I have autistic sensory issues and the cheapest one I can at all tolerate to have on my skin is 15€ for 50ml. I have so many of the 5-10€ bottles at home and can't handle any of them. Fml

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