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Useless. Time for the Social Democrats to form their own party.

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[-] IzzyScissor@lemmy.world 13 points 1 hour ago

Here's the full list of House Democrats who voted to table the impeachment articles.

Pete Aguilar (California)
Gabe Amo (Rhode Island)
Jake Auchincloss (Massachusetts)
Wesley Bell (Missouri)
Ami Bera (California)
Don Beyer (Virginia)
Sanford Bishop (Georgia)
Julia Brownley (California)
Nikki Budzinski (Illinois)
Janelle Bynum (Oregon)
Salud Carbajal (California)
Andre Carson (Indiana)
Ed Case (Hawaii)
Sean Casten (Illinois)
Kathy Castor (Florida)
Sheila Cherfilus-McCormick (Florida)
Katherine Clark (Massachusetts)
Emanuel Cleaver (Missouri)
Jim Clyburn (South Carolina)
Herb Conaway (New Jersey)
Lou Correa (California)
Jim Costa (California)
Joe Courtney (Connecticut)
Angie Craig (Minnesota)
Jason Crow (Colorado)
Henry Cuellar (Texas)
Sharice Davids (Kansas)
Don Davis (North Carolina)
Madeleine Dean (Pennsylvania)
Rosa DeLauro (Connecticut)
Suzan DelBene (Washington)
Chris Deluzio (Pennsylvania)
Debbie Dingell (Michigan)
Sarah Elfreth (Maryland)
Cleo Fields (Louisiana)
Shomari Figures (Alabama)
Lizzie Fletcher (Texas)
Bill Foster (Illinois)
Lois Frankel (Florida)
Laura Gillen (New York)
Jared Golden (Maine)
Dan Goldman (New York)
Vicente Gonzalez (Texas)
Maggie Goodlander (New Hampshire)
Josh Gottheimer (New Jersey)
Adam Gray (California)
Josh Harder (California)
Jim Himes (Connecticut)
Steven Horsford (Nevada)
Chrissy Houlahan (Pennsylvania)
Steny Hoyer (Maryland)
Val Hoyle (Oregon)
Hakeem Jeffries (New York)
Julie Johnson (Texas)
Marcy Kaptur (Ohio)
Bill Keating (Massachusetts)
Timothy Kennedy (New York)
Ro Khanna (California)
Greg Landsman (Ohio)
Rick Larsen (Washington)
John Larson (Connecticut)
George Latimer (New York)
Susie Lee (Nevada)
Mike Levin (California)
Sam Liccardo (California)
Ted Lieu (California)
Zoe Lofgren (California)
Stephen Lynch (Massachusetts)
Seth Magaziner (Rhode Island)
John Mannion (New York)
Lucy McBath (Georgia)
Sarah McBride (Delaware)
April McClain Delaney (Maryland)
Jennifer McClellan (Virginia)
Betty McCollum (Minnesota)
Kristen McDonald Rivet (Michigan)
Morgan McGarvey (Kentucky)
Gregory Meeks (New York)
Grace Meng (New York)
Kweisi Mfume (Maryland)
Joe Morelle (New York)
Kelly Morrison (Minnesota)
Jared Moskowitz (Florida)
Seth Moulton (Massachusetts)
Frank Mrvan (Indiana)
Richard Neal (Massachusetts)
Joe Neguse (Colorado)
Johnny Olszewski (Maryland)
Frank Pallone (New Jersey)
Jimmy Panetta (California)
Chris Pappas (New Hampshire)
Nancy Pelosi (California)
Marie Gluesenkamp Perez (Washington)
Scott Peters (California)
Brittany Pettersen (Colorado)
Nellie Pou (New Jersey)
Mike Quigley (Illinois)
Jamie Raskin (Maryland)
Josh Riley (New York)
Deborah Ross (North Carolina)
Pat Ryan (New York)
Andrea Salinas (Oregon)
Mary Gay Scanlon (Pennsylvania)
Brad Schneider (Illinois)
Hillary Scholten (Michigan)
Kim Schrier (Washington)
Bobby Scott (Virginia)
Terri Sewell (Alabama)
Adam Smith (Washington)
Eric Sorensen (Illinois)
Darren Soto (Florida)
Greg Stanton (Arizona)
Haley Stevens (Michigan)
Marilyn Strickland (Washington)
Suhas Subramanyam (Virginia)
Tom Suozzi (New York)
Emilia Sykes (Ohio)
Paul Tonko (New York)
Ritchie Torres (New York)
Lori Trahan (Massachusetts)
Derek Tran (California)
Lauren Underwood (Illinois)
Juan Vargas (California)
Gabe Vasquez (New Mexico)
Marc Veasey (Texas)
Eugene Vindman (Virginia)
Debbie Wasserman Schultz (Florida)
George Whitesides (California)
[-] shawn1122@lemm.ee 4 points 1 hour ago

Ro Khanna, Hakeem Jeffries and of course Nancy Pelosi.

[-] explodicle@sh.itjust.works 23 points 2 hours ago

Nobody who said "blue no matter who" in 2024 is allowed to say "what the actual fuck" at this.

[-] Mustakrakish@lemmy.world 1 points 4 minutes ago

Especially if they tried to blame objectors

[-] drunkpostdisaster@lemmy.world 1 points 14 minutes ago

Might as well let trump win. Maybe a few more assassinations will wake the dems up.

[-] HugeNerd@lemmy.ca 5 points 1 hour ago

He's still useful to Israel. Bibi has some Raytheon catalog pages he circled items on.

[-] bizza@lemmy.zip 3 points 52 minutes ago

He's already been impeached twice in his previous presidency, he shouldn't even be sitting where he's at

[-] Tuxman@sh.itjust.works 1 points 7 minutes ago

The day Americans realized no one was coming to save them 🫂

[-] Phegan@lemmy.world 8 points 2 hours ago

Liberals are against every war except the current one.

[-] RickyRigatoni@retrolemmy.com 12 points 1 hour ago

I knew both sides were bad, but I didn't realize the rot was infested this badly.

[-] ZombieMantis@lemmy.world 30 points 3 hours ago

Jesus McFucking Christ.

[-] FlexibleToast@lemmy.world 8 points 3 hours ago

Well, obviously. Did everyone just collectively forget that the constitution allows for a president to take military action without congressional approval for 90 days? What he did was clearly the wrong move, but I'm pretty sure it's constitutional. Honestly, the problem is the constitution itself.

[-] immutable@lemmy.zip 13 points 2 hours ago* (last edited 2 hours ago)

The constitution allows for no such thing. The constitution is pretty crystal clear that only the congress can declare war.

The congress passed a law saying the president can take military action that then comes under review by the congress. The President can do that without a declaration of war.

This power the president has is one granted by the legislature not by the constitution.

[-] FlexibleToast@lemmy.world 4 points 2 hours ago

Okay, so I was wrong about the particulars. But, the president does have the power to take military actions. Just like he did.

[-] Buske@lemmy.world 53 points 4 hours ago

Welp There it is, on record, Both sides are the same.

[-] insomniac@sh.itjust.works 19 points 4 hours ago

Really disappointed in my Congress woman, Sarah Elfreth. I wrote her an email and she responded with basically “that’s what they told me to do!”

[-] Mustakrakish@lemmy.world 2 points 3 minutes ago

Reply with "So what is the point of you?"

[-] Manalith@midwest.social 15 points 3 hours ago

Gotta share a screenshot of that email if it actually gives any detail, basically confirming the system rigging and complacency from members of said system, send it to some independent journalist or something.

[-] laranis@lemmy.zip 6 points 3 hours ago

The idea that our government is a representative democracy is a farce. The machine has too much inertia, too much power and money

[-] TankovayaDiviziya@lemmy.world 33 points 4 hours ago

Still "both sides are not the same"? Even if Democrats have slight majority in both or either houses, they still dilute policies to appease the fascists from stonewalling. Meanwhile, the fascists legislate every unspeakable evil policies and Democrats don't even try to resist as opposition.

[-] outhouseperilous@lemmy.dbzer0.com 15 points 4 hours ago* (last edited 4 hours ago)

Well yes but they only betray everything we stand for because we didn't fall in line and back them hard enough. If we'd just licked their boots better, they would gave broken from all their precious behavior!

So them viciously betraying you to the fascists is your fault actually.

[-] meangreenbeans@lemmy.world 37 points 5 hours ago

Democrat and republican parties are the same party.

[-] Doorbook@lemmy.world 4 points 2 hours ago

Mostly when it comes to Israel !

[-] ef9357@lemmy.world 14 points 4 hours ago

Yep, 2 wings, 1 bird.

[-] Anomalocaris@lemm.ee 13 points 5 hours ago

there are a ratchet.

one slides smoothly towards fascism, the other one blocks and reform to fix the slide to fascism.

[-] outhouseperilous@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 4 hours ago

Only because we didn't vote fot them enough! Guys, if we had voted for them they would have fixed all this instead if being like half the problem!

[-] redwattlebird@lemmings.world 5 points 3 hours ago

Huh?! But it's clear grounds for impeachment! I hope everyone starts flooding their inboxes and phone lines...

[-] Stabbitha@lemmy.world 7 points 2 hours ago

I'm confused as to what's different about this situation? Why is this an impeachable offense, but Biden bombing Yemen wasn't? Or Trump 1.0 bombing Syria? Or Obama bombing and drone striking all sorts of places that weren't Iraq or Afghanistan?

Nobody tried to impeach a president before for taking unilateral non-Congressional-approved military actions, so I'm not clear on what makes this different?

[-] redwattlebird@lemmings.world 1 points 13 minutes ago

My understanding is that for the US to go to war, it needs to be passed in Congress. Trump bombing Iran last week was not passed through Congress and is an act that can get him impeached, is also my understanding.

As for the previous events, my assumption was that it was passed by Congress. But if not, then... That's a failure of your own system and I can't really say anything other than that.

[-] Floon@lemmy.ml 83 points 7 hours ago

128 Democrats join House Republicans to defend fascist dictator

[-] Washedupcynic@lemmy.ca 17 points 5 hours ago* (last edited 5 hours ago)

Rep Paul Tonko is one of the NY reps that voted no to impeach. I work 2 blocks from his office and plan to spend my lunch hour every day demonstrating in front of his Albany office. I already called his office to bitch. I've got printed letters that say, "Congratulations, you're a fascist collaborator." Going to be stuffing those in envelopes with glitter and putting one in the mail every single day. Give me your best for my protest signs.

[-] Corn@lemmy.ml 3 points 2 hours ago

Explicitly request a response in your letters.

[-] Wolf@lemmy.today 6 points 3 hours ago

Give me your best for my protest signs.

I think "Rep Paul Tonko is a fascist collaborator" works pretty good.

[-] AlexLost@lemm.ee 13 points 5 hours ago

Sounds like some independents are about to be entering office. The people need to stick it to these paid traitors. They get paid a fuckton more than you with your tax dollars and then take money from special interest groups on top of that to fuck you over some more. Are you getting your money's worth America? Get these assholes out of office and put in some actual difference makers. The founding fathers are rolling in their graves watching what the country has become. Shame on all of you. Kick these losers to the curb.

[-] nthavoc@lemmy.today 35 points 7 hours ago

Called it. People need to set their expectations way lower so they aren't so pissed off about the lack of action from this party. They should also read up on the legal precedents that were going to sink these articles to begin with. Democrats would have a much better chance to impeach some of the Donvict's shitty cabinet members, (Pete Hegseth, ICE Barbie, RFK, DOGE) for clearly impeachable offenses, but decided to swan dive into an empty concrete pool. So there is still no sound strategy from the democrats on how to dismantle this nightmare and only pissing the public off with limp wristed slaps.

[-] WhiskyTangoFoxtrot@lemmy.world 36 points 7 hours ago

This goes to show that the problem isn't Trump or the Republicans, the problem is the United States of America. The only way things are going to get better is if America is removed from its position of global power and influence. If you care about fighting fascism and tyranny, you need to boycott American products, refuse to work for American companies and, if you're already working for an American company and can't quit, drop your productivity as far as possible. Do everything in your power to damage the American economy and reduce their power.

[-] CorruptCheesecake@lemmy.world 8 points 5 hours ago

As Americans we have no choice in the matter. We're forced to power the empire like the human batteries in The Matrix in order to survive. And just like in the movie, we're born into a prison that we can't smell or taste or touch. We truly are the most propagandized people in history.

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