You know what I bet would help? If actual ICE agents showed their faces and IDs and had warrants instead of just jumping out of a rental F150 in masks and tactical paintball gear and grabbing people's babies and punching old people. Just a thought.
You're obviously a far left radical! What radical ideas are you going to demand next? Due process and the rule of law? Preposterous!
And if they only went after violent criminals in their territory, instead of being such cowards they'd rather grab law-abiding people at hospitals and schools and churches.
Hey, be compassionate. You at least should understand that they need to show big and beautiful numbers to impress the genius man with strategic thinking. It's hard to do if you come after the actual criminals
Were you under any illusion that when they said one they didn't mean the other?
It came out of Trump's mouth, ergo it was a lie.
And the masked gang conducting the abductions are obviously a pusillanimous pack of bullies.
Meanwhile, in Raleigh, North Carolina, Carl Thomas Bennett was arrested for allegedly impersonating an ICE officer and sexual assaulting a woman at a Motel 6 threatening to deport her if she didn’t comply, according to CNN affiliate WRAL.
Police reports indicated that Bennett, 37, “threatened to deport the victim if she did not have sex with him,” and “displayed a business card with a badge on it,” according to WRAL.
Ah, rape.
See, that's what got him caught.
He showed some form of identification, even if fake. The real ICE would never do that.
They may have done the other stuff but we probably wouldn't know.
Ah, rape.
The president is a rapist, so why not? It could get you a segment on Fox.
The president is a rapist,
And felon. This guy is going places!
You can't impersonate an officer when officers are doing everything in their power to not be recognized as officers. No face, name tag, department, badge, uniform, warrant, marked government vehicle, standard issue side arm, etc. If no one is a cop then everyone can pretend to be a cop.
Like Iranian gun teams. They'll be able to move around fully armed and in the open for a looooooooooong time thanks to ICE. America is so fucked.
Correct. Cosplaying Gestapo thugs is not a crime.
Wait, you mean criminals are impersonating the guys that look and act like criminals? How odd.
Don't people realize that ICE are the people with masks that don't have to identify themselves or provide a reason why you should comply and that criminals are the people with masks that don't have to identify themselves or provide a reason why you should comply? Come on, sheeple.
Who could have forseen this could happen?
genuinely, if i was american, i'd make sure to get a license to carry just in case this ever happened to me. anyone not identifying themselves trying to stuff me in an umarked vehicle is a kidnapper and will be treated as such.
What if these fake ICE officers identified themselves as ICE though? At what point does your identification become truth? The official ICE gestapo already doesn't have to fully identify themselves.
So you’ll be charged with resisting arrest and uttering threats. So even if you’re innocent of the initial immigration charges you still get a felony arrest.
They are sending people straight to off shore black sites. If you wanna go to El Salvador or Guantanamo Bay, be my guest, but i have no plan on being sent anywhere.
My point was you can’t win. They’ll fuck you either way
And their point is that if you fucked either way it doesn't matter anymore what you do.
Well then I'm taking a few of them with me!
You're already being kidnapped and potentially sent to an out of country prison with no hearing. There is no downside under these parameters.
actually, legally speaking you are 100% in the right for defending yourself from kidnappings. any officer is required by law to identify themselves, and seeing as they didnt, thats on them.
Yup. I'm shooting anyone in the face who tries to abduct me without properly identifying themselves. I'll deal with the repercussions after I potentially save myself from being human trafficked or having my organs harvested.
The problem is you might not get the chance to make such a defense in a courtroom. If it is an actual ICE agent, they will just disappear you.
"Johnson was charged with three counts of kidnapping and one count each of impersonating a law enforcement officer, petty larceny, assault and battery, according to jail records."
This is what cop behavior is legally described as when you aren't a cop.
Fucking excellent.
Well, not the crime and the general scumbaggery, but the more this happens the more justified you’ll be gunning down a random person claiming to be law enforcement as they attempt to illegally detain people. Every time an ice agent dies an angel gets its wings - if it’s from a legally defensible bullet from a patriot they get to cum too.
Do your part assholes.
To me it sounds more like the cops are impersonating civilians.
Criminals are impersonating other criminals who are under the power of a criminal
Criminalception!!
The obvious answer is to beat the crap out of anyone who claims to be an ICE officer.
Run them out of your community like they're fascists. Because they are.
authorities issue national warning
Instead of just stopping the behavior that makes this even possible lol
There's an extremely simple solution to this problem
Yeah, shoot anyone in the face that tries to abduct you without proper identification.
Everyone should just dress up like ICE everywhere ... you don't have to do anything violent or illegal .. just go about your day as an ICE agent.
Going shopping, dress up like ICE ... anyone asks, just say you're ICE
Going to the movies? dress up like ICE
Going to visit grandma? dress up like ICE
Going to a wedding? dress up like ICE with a hoodie, ball cap, sunglasses and mask
Once everyone everywhere is ICE ... ICE will be less likely to bother people
Once everyone everywhere is ICE ... ICE will be less likely to bother people
Yes, because if there's one thing anonymous "law enforcement" groups hate, it's having more plausible deniability and the ability to hide in a larger crowd before they snatch and grab.
The criminals are impersonating criminals.
Who knew sending unidentified masked domestic terrorists to abduct people off the street into unmarked vehicles could lead to problems?
Fascism, folks. Always stupid. Always dangerous.
How is this Possible? The Republicans RUNNING our Country have made SURE ICE is Well Uniformed, Legally Acting and ALWAYS Identifiable! And if NOT the Republicans running our Country have been SWIFT to Promote them!
You know, this wouldn’t be as much of an issue if they had to, I don’t know, IDENTIFY THEMSELVES.
This article is from February, I'm sure there've been a bunch more since then.
Fucking excellent.
Well, not the crime and the general scumbaggery, but the more this happens the more justified you’ll be gunning down a random person claiming to be law enforcement as they attempt to illegally detain people. Every time an ice agent dies an angel gets its wings - if it’s from a legally defensible bullet from a patriot they get to cum too.
Do your part assholes.
Guy on the left looks like a methhead.
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99.9999% of police brutality, corruption, and misconduct is never investigated, never punished, never makes the news, so it's not on this page.
When cops are caught breaking the law, they're investigated by other cops. Details are kept quiet, the officers' names are withheld from public knowledge, and what info is eventually released is only what police choose to release — often nothing at all.
When police are fired — which is all too rare — they leave with 'law enforcement experience' and can easily find work in another police department nearby. It's called "Wandering Cops."
When police testify under oath, they lie so frequently that cops themselves have a joking term for it: "testilying." Yet it's almost unheard of for police to be punished or prosecuted for perjury.
Cops can and do get away with lawlessness, because cops protect other cops. If they don't, they aren't cops for long.
The legal doctrine of "qualified immunity" renders police officers invulnerable to lawsuits for almost anything they do. In practice, getting past 'qualified immunity' is so unlikely, it makes headlines when it happens.
All this is a path to a police state.
In a free society, police must always be under serious and skeptical public oversight, with non-cops and non-cronies in charge, issuing genuine punishment when warranted.
Police who break the law must be prosecuted like anyone else, promptly fired if guilty, and barred from ever working in law-enforcement again.
That's the solution.
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