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This is based on Goya's famous painting "Saturn Devouring His Son", if anyone was wondering.

[-] samus12345@sh.itjust.works 38 points 4 days ago

One of my favorites. I wish we knew if that's really what he intended to depict - people just guessed.

[-] NielsBohron@lemmy.world 28 points 4 days ago

I dunno, I think that's part of the magic of the Black Paintings. To me, what makes them truly unsettling (in the best way) is the fact that he painted them exclusively for his own desire and that we're limited to guessing the subject matter (which, although ambiguous, was undoubtedly dark).

[-] oeverbloem@feddit.nl 9 points 4 days ago

kolpeshtheyardstick made a pretty great video essay about the work and its historical context and cultural impact. (01:04:19)

I never heard about how it was made before and that really changed how I view the work.

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[-] whoisearth@lemmy.ca 5 points 4 days ago

Insanity created some of the most definitely gothic images ever. Goya is so slept on. I'm especially partial to his etchings

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[-] GenitalHurricane@lemmy.world 46 points 4 days ago
[-] humble_boatsman@sh.itjust.works 6 points 3 days ago

Fuck AI. Fuck Trump. Fucking love Fransisco de Goya.

[-] FuckFascism@lemmy.world 24 points 4 days ago

Prove it. It's not mine.

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[-] abbadon420@lemm.ee 25 points 4 days ago

This is a really good reference to classical Roman mythology. Something that the US government usually appreciates.

[-] fushuan 24 points 4 days ago

It's a reference to Goya a Spanish painter.we don't really know if this painting was about chronos, that's a theory.

[-] HeyThisIsntTheYMCA@lemmy.world 9 points 4 days ago

they were roommates

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[-] OldChicoAle@lemmy.world 17 points 4 days ago

Damn don't do Cronos like that

[-] n1ck_n4m3@lemmy.world 6 points 3 days ago

If we ever have another elected president, I hope that one of their first acts after undoing literally everything that the orange menace has done is to replace every picture of trump in any government building with this.

[-] Liz@midwest.social 5 points 3 days ago

Gonna need fundamental change to make the president less powerful and make it so that no one party ever holds a majority in Congress ever again. The first would follow the second, so we should be pushing for something like Sequential Proportional Approval Voting for every legislature we got.

[-] Xande@discuss.tchncs.de 3 points 3 days ago

Start with reforming the ways your elections are held. To the rest of the world it seems like a 250 years old system to keep those with money in power. I thought the american revolution was held to get lost of a king and his henchmen?

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[-] Schadrach@lemmy.sdf.org 1 points 2 days ago

Not a fan of SPAV, in part for the same reasons I'm not a fan of STAR:

  1. It doesn't eliminate strategic voting. For example, imagine you support two candidates for a multi-seat election. Under straight AV you vote for both of them because there's literally no incentive to do otherwise. Under SPAV, you might decide that since one of those candidates is much more popular and thus a foregone conclusion to win that you should avoid voting for them so the value of your vote for the other isn't reduced. Too many doing this can cause negative effects, like strategic voting in other methods.
  2. You can't tell me how my vote will actually be counted until every other vote is counted, because how the ballot will be measured in the end depends on every other ballot as depending on how everyone else voted your votes for some candidates may be worth less than your votes for other candidates. Straight AV doesn't have this problem, your vote is exactly what is says on the ballot and is counted exactly as it is on the ballot. The extra math also makes it more complicated to explain to voters en masse, which is a problem with other systems that have transferable votes.

I get that the goal is apparently to make every state elect a split legislature/congressmen by making so that if any seats are even vaguely competitive the parties will essentially be forced to take turns.

[-] Liz@midwest.social 1 points 2 days ago
  1. While this complaint is technically true for SPAV, the likelihood that a popular candidate would fail to win a seat because everyone thought they were too popular is just.... Not gonna happen. We already know from real-world AV elections that voters largely prefer to vote honestly, there's no reason to think they would get more strategic when it gets harder to figure out the optimal strategy.

  2. This is a problem inherit to nearly all systems designed to produce proportional results. I honestly can't think of a worthwhile system that doesn't have this problem. Anyway, the goal is not to make the parties take turns. It's to make it possible for minor parties to win seats in the legislature. In the end, no single party would ever have a controlling majority, and they would be forced to form coalitions to pass legislation.

[-] Schadrach@lemmy.sdf.org 1 points 2 days ago

We already know from real-world AV elections that voters largely prefer to vote honestly, there’s no reason to think they would get more strategic when it gets harder to figure out the optimal strategy.

In plain AV, voting honestly is the optimal strategy - there's no incentive to vote any other way. It's not for SPAV. And yes, strategic voting in SPAV is harder to figure out than strategic voting in FPTP, but it's far from impossible - basically you don't vote for a popular candidate you support so your vote for other candidates counts for more, relying on the assumption that enough other people will vote for the popular candidate you support to allow them to win anyways.

[-] Liz@midwest.social 1 points 2 days ago

Strategic voting can be an optional strategy under ordinary approval voting. If I don't like either of the top two candidates, it's still in my best interest to vote for the runner-up, if I hate them less than I hate the front-runner.

And look man, I'm honestly not interested in picking over the details. Any proportional system is better than single-winner. By miles.

[-] Baguette 19 points 4 days ago

Trump wouldn't eat the flag, he'd use it to wipe his shit

[-] HeyThisIsntTheYMCA@lemmy.world 12 points 4 days ago

why do you think he's eating it?

h̸̤̻͐͆ȩ̷̃̕ ̶͙̎l̵̈̾͜i̸̥̥̾k̷̡̝̀̈́ë̶̬͕́ṡ̴̩͖ ̶̡̰̊̀t̴̮̎̈́ḩ̶̿ê̵͈̻ ̶͇͌t̸̨̘͒a̷̙͉͐s̶̗̄̈t̷̻̻̔é̴͓̼̕

[-] Slovene@feddit.nl 7 points 4 days ago

Nah, he uses the constitution for that.

[-] LillyPip@lemmy.ca 2 points 3 days ago

On the other hand, he’s well known for eating things he wants to hide. He eats notes after meetings.

I would be surprised if he hasn’t had someone redesign the US flag for him, based on his ‘vision’. So eating the flag to hide it is totally on brand.

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[-] samus12345@sh.itjust.works 23 points 4 days ago
[-] DrSoap@lemmy.world 15 points 4 days ago

Who painted this? I want to buy this painting.

[-] huppakee@feddit.nl 30 points 4 days ago

Quite likely their initials are A.I.

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[-] solsangraal@lemmy.zip 17 points 4 days ago

art is lies that reveal the truth

-some artist

[-] adj16@lemmy.world 7 points 4 days ago

Maybe you’re thinking Alan Moore in V for Vendetta?

Artists use lies to tell the truth, while politicians use them to cover the truth up.

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[-] Ledericas@lemm.ee 3 points 3 days ago

he pratices deepthroating putin alot.

I'm sure there are quite a few people that would love to see him choke on a flag.

[-] TrickDacy@lemmy.world 9 points 4 days ago

I think a lot of alcohol poisonings will happen on the day he dies.

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[-] nthavoc@lemmy.today 7 points 4 days ago

Good one. Not that I can do any better, but would it make more sense to put the statue of liberty there to better reflect the original inspiration?

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[-] kurwa@lemmy.world 6 points 4 days ago

Is there an artist or is this AI?

[-] Madison420@lemmy.world 15 points 4 days ago

Ai, it's a parody of a famous painting "Saturn devouring his son".

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Saturn_Devouring_His_Son

[-] Almacca@aussie.zone 5 points 4 days ago

I'm actually grateful that it is. I'd hate to think a human spent time on this. Imagine the psychological damage.

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