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Sarcastic bluesky post saying [time traveling back to 1933 to make sure to tell Germans to protest Hitler less vigorously so as not to alienate bougie centrists who want to go to brunch undisturbed, thus preventing the rise of fascism]

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[-] Bytemeister@lemmy.world 4 points 1 day ago

This isn't even close to analogous, here is a better one.

"Real leftists" would have been more than happy to write in a niche candidate instead of ensuring that Hitler didn't become Chancellor in the first place. And then they will have justified it by saying that Germany was going to fail anyway, and they rather have it happen sooner than later, and that none of the blood of the 6 million Jews about to be worked and gassed to death is on their hands.

[-] zbyte64@awful.systems 18 points 1 day ago

It's not like the Nazis ever received the majority of the votes. Funny to see us blaming the votes of that time.

It's a bit pedantic to say that Hitler rose to power without the majority because he only received 43.9% of the vote..... especially considering that over 17 million people voted for him and the next most popular candidate only received 7 million votes.

That really only makes sense if you are reviewing the election through the lens of someone used to a two party system. If we are going to evaluate it as if it were a two party system and combine the right and left into two coalitions......the Nazi, Centre, DNVP, and BVP would make up nearly 26 million voters while the SPD and kpd would only make up nearly 12 million people.

Even though the Centre party was much more willing to work with the Nazi than the socialist, if we added their votes to the left coalition you'd still have 22m on the right and 16m on the left.

The only way you can really claim that the Nazi didn't receive the majority of the vote is if you misinterpret The Weimar Republic as a direct democracy and not a Republic.

[-] zbyte64@awful.systems 4 points 1 day ago

A bad analogy is a license to be pedantic.

It's not a license to engage in historical revisionism. Like the myth of the clean wehrmacht, the notion that Hitler didn't have the broad support of the majority of German citizens is an attempt to deny the culpability of everyday Germans from the war crimes they were collectively responsible for in WW2.

[-] irelephant@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 1 day ago

Off topic, but this is the first time I've seen an awful.systems account outside of its local communities.

[-] WoodScientist@sh.itjust.works 7 points 1 day ago

Except in this case, the previous government had already killed 4 million Jews, and Hitler was only continuing the previous government's policy of genocide.

[-] Bytemeister@lemmy.world 5 points 1 day ago

No, in this case, the government would have killed 0 Jews, and instead provided weapons and ammunition to a long-time ally who suffered a brutal terrorist attack just a year prior and was in the middle of a bloody vengeance campaign that had gone way beyond the scope of neutralizing the enemy and had become a full blown extermination campaign in which Hitler was outright calling for the use of nuclear weapons and complete annihilation.

But, that far in to the weeds and the analogy breaks down because you're just describing the very specific situation that happened back in November.

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