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[-] mrfriki@lemmy.world 123 points 11 months ago

Then cancel I guess.

[-] ch00f@lemmy.world 77 points 11 months ago

They're also bundling AI with their most expensive tiers. More than likely logging 100% of that revenue towards AI to justify this whole boondoggle.

[-] Endymion_Mallorn@kbin.melroy.org 44 points 11 months ago

Time to cancel then.

[-] redlemace@lemmy.world 38 points 11 months ago

Why do they all act like AI is the holy grail ?? Phone update: here you go, AI. New app: here you go. AI. Websites: here you go. AI.

I've tried it, but AI sucks. All tech questions give non-working answers. Everything else, the AI always agree with you.

[-] Zenith@lemm.ee 19 points 11 months ago

They’re using us to train it and offloading the costs of training it to us. This isn’t for us or customer service or whatever, they want to use their AIs to further develop them is all

[-] redlemace@lemmy.world 7 points 11 months ago
[-] 01189998819991197253@infosec.pub 8 points 11 months ago

A buddy works at Microsoft. This is exactly what they're doing.

[-] MimicJar@lemmy.world 13 points 11 months ago

Because AI is a solution in search of a problem. The current plan is to just put it in everything and hope one of them is better as a result. It's not the worst plan, because eventually some combination of things is likely to be useful, but it means a lot of useless shit will be slapped together. Of course it's also far from a great plan, because it means a lot of useless shit will e slapped together.

[-] matlag@sh.itjust.works 6 points 11 months ago

They've invested way too much to admit it's almost totally useless, and only useful in niche app, using sketchy conditions (training material IP...) and under tight control.

So they engage into heavy marketing and comms ops to convince the world that "AI" (very vague term BTW, what they offer right now should rather be called systems resulting from stochastic learning, credit for that naming suggestion is not on me) was a revolution and whoever doesn't get on board will be left behind in the dust.

It worked really well: corporate world is embracing the "AI everywhere" idea.

So now, everyone is competing to provide "the best AI assistant". And believe it or not: some people do ask for it!

[-] theuser@lemmy.world 33 points 11 months ago

Google became prime enshitification too. You may only degoogle.

[-] Liberal_Ghost@lemmy.zip 5 points 11 months ago

I degoogled earlier this year, and it has been amazing. Dont miss it at all.

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[-] it_depends_man@lemmy.world 31 points 11 months ago

Wtf is google offering that you're paying for anyway? advertising?

[-] DandomRude@lemmy.world 54 points 11 months ago

Google Workspace (GMail, Meet, Calendar Drive, Docs, Sheets, ...) is a popular alternative to MS365 among companies.

[-] callmemagnus@lemmy.world 26 points 11 months ago
[-] tiramichu@sh.itjust.works 57 points 11 months ago

Things change.

Ten years ago I joined a newly formed small company. They were all-in on the google suite for everything, and it was great. Gmail, docs, meet, all joined up really well and fully cloud so everyone could work just as easily from home as in the office, with no on-prem hardware or VPNs or anything. It made the work so productive.

But of course enshittification happens, corps get evil, and everything goes down the toilet.

These days I am degoogling as much as possible and would never choose g-suite again, either personally or for business, but 10 years ago for that small business it was a godsend.

[-] Damage@feddit.it 13 points 11 months ago

It's not like 365 is so great anyway

[-] Ledericas@lemm.ee 5 points 11 months ago

when AI came around, they realized ai is costing too much, so they have to force it on customers to make them pay off thier debt.

Storage on google drive comes to mind. Not that I pay for it, but I know it's something others do.

[-] socrates@slrpnk.net 25 points 11 months ago

It was always the case that AI would be free or cheap to begin with, and it was always the case that prices will have to rise to cover their costs.

The way now is to cancel subscriptions. Show the companies pushing AI that there is no money to be made in it. Find another service that fits your needs, your ethical minimum, and your budget.

Cancel Google services, even the free ones, and find an alternative you truly like.

[-] bieren@lemmy.zip 24 points 11 months ago

The correct and only option is to cancel your plan. Fuck google.

[-] makyo@lemmy.world 21 points 11 months ago

Adobe is doing this too and unless their AI is going to fix the legacy bugs the company clearly doesn't care enough to fix then it's not good enough to cost more.

[-] FinalRemix@lemmy.world 8 points 11 months ago
[-] makyo@lemmy.world 5 points 11 months ago

Oh don't even get me started. I know so many softwares and their limitations and if I could cut Adobe completely out of my workflow I wouldn't wait another second.

[-] kibiz0r@midwest.social 18 points 11 months ago

Lots of victim-blaming in these comments

[-] SaharaMaleikuhm@feddit.org 15 points 11 months ago

Nobody is forcing them to use Google services. And under capitalism voting with our wallets is all we got.

[-] kibiz0r@midwest.social 26 points 11 months ago

Nobody is forcing them to use Google services.

If you’re a small business with no IT budget, your options are pretty limited.

You can choose from 2 or 3 horrible companies that actually integrate with your stuff out-of-the-box, or you can do a bunch of manual work that none of your competitors are doing.

For a lot of companies, it’s not ignorance or carelessness, but a sober understanding that they’ll have to “render unto Caesar” before they can move on.

[-] BlameTheAntifa@lemmy.world 13 points 11 months ago

Since Brian hadn’t already cancelled Google for being awful in every other way, this is exactly the push he needs to stop giving them money and switch to better, cheaper options.

[-] Mwa@thelemmy.club 11 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

they could make it when you opt out from AI features, you dont need to pay for the AI features. but they are Greedy so they will probably not do that.

[-] JakenVeina@midwest.social 5 points 11 months ago

They wouldn't be able to make MONEY off of AI, otherwise, cause most people would decline it.

[-] Mwa@thelemmy.club 3 points 11 months ago
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[-] merc@sh.itjust.works 10 points 11 months ago

The only thing you can do about it is lower my plan?

[-] nucleative@lemmy.world 9 points 11 months ago

There was a time when gsuite was a scrappy little service that gave you a serious option that wasn't Micro$oft (which at the time was deep into shady monopolistic practices) at a fraction of the price with replacements that were good enough for most small businesses.

If memory serves, the initial price was around $20 or perhaps $50 a YEAR per user. It was a steal if you were used to paying 10 times that for an annual subscription to Microsoft Office Pro plus needing to support a local NT server running Microsoft Exchange and probably a file server that needed backups and antivirus and on and on.

As more and more businesses have gone SaaS and put the whole thing in the cloud, Google has capitalized on this by cranking up the prices while probably scanning and using our data for their benefits somehow (mostly without adding additional features... Google Sheets is nowhere close to feature parity with Excel).

Thankfully we now have way more FOSS and private cloud solutions such as Nextcloud.

I still can't help but notice, however that feature-wise we really haven't gone anywhere in 25 plus years.

Injecting AI buttons into Google Workspace or whatever they call it now is probably not a feature that too many of their customers are asking for. But in the never ending push to increase revenue, it seems like now we're going to get it and that's the justification for the latest price jump.

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[-] grrgyle@slrpnk.net 7 points 11 months ago

The soaking of customers has kicked into second gear. This is a great time to degoogle, as it will only be made more difficult

[-] Ledericas@lemm.ee 5 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

companies pushing out AI, know they are losing money on AI because it cost more to deploy it, and they arnt generating any profit from it. via the expensive, environmentally unfriendly AI data centers.

[-] PeroBasta@lemmy.world 4 points 11 months ago

Yeah same thing with slack

[-] BigMacHole@sopuli.xyz 4 points 11 months ago

OBVIOUSLY the ONLY reason why FIRING YOUR WORKFORCE and Replacing it with ONE AI is MORE Expensive is because of TAXES!

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